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Should the U.S.A. admit it is hopelessly in debt?
Topic Started: Apr 20 2008, 09:35 PM (387 Views)
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QUOTE=lightninboy
"January 18, 2008

WASHINGTON - President George W. Bush is expected to embrace a bipartisan bid today to halt the nation from sliding into an election-year recession - a plan that could put rebate checks of at least $300 in Americans' pockets, congressional sources said.

Bush is likely to steer clear of specifics, but for the first time yesterday told congressional leaders he favors tax rebates to jump-start the economy - and those checks reportedly could be as high as $800 per person and $1,600 for households."

Does this make sense when the U.S.A. is basically hopelessly in debt?

QUOTE=Erin
Does this tie in to the End Times prophecies?

I wonder if this ties into the end times prophecies we read of in Daniel, Revelation, and elsewhere. It appears that the big players in the end times are the "new Roman Empire" aka the European Union, the Chinese/East, and the Muslim lands including Russia. America must become a second rate or lesser power and/or is either absorbed into the New Roman Empire (toes of iron and clay in Daniel's statue prophecy) or destroyed?

America as a whole turned from the Gospel roots long ago, sadly

QUOTE=lightninboy
The national debt is compared with the Gross Domestic Product.
I guess there have been times when the national debt has been a higher ratio of the Gross Domestic Product than it is now.

http://elidourado.files.wordpress.co...6/debt-gdp.png
http://www.die.net/musings/national_debt/

But it seems like the U.S. has a hard enough time balancing a budget, let alone reducing the national debt.

Who is the national debt owed to? Have they got enforcement to collect?

QUOTE=lightninboy
Does this tie in to the End Times prophecies?

Worldwide economic collapse is prophesied in Revelation, right?

I suspect that basically all nations are about as much in debt as the U.S. is, and if one falls, all fall.

Perhaps worldwide economic collapse won't occur until the worldwide economic collapse prophesied in Revelation occurs.

QUOTE=Erin
Von and Trent and others, see, the Gospel is spreading, growing, and expanding in the Muslim world and the Middle east. Satan is scared, brothers. He realizes his time is growing ever shorter with each passing day. While he may fool himself to think he can beat Jesus, he knows deep down in his core being that Jesus is God and will triumph over him and his demons in the end, thus the Scripture sayeth even the demons tremble!

I personally know ex Muslims who now trust in Jesus Christ as their only eternal Savior and I have even listened to messages from Arabic TV where MUSLIM CLERICS have fearfully and angrily said millions of Muslims leave Islam ever year, and for all the supposed masses that join Islam as "reverts" most leave!

The Gospel of Christ conquers without blade, without bullet, through love and the power of God the Holy Spirit. Please help support and stand with our brethren in Christ. A good site that is involved is:

http://www.opendoorsusa.org/

And www.persecution.org voice of the martyrs

Also, did you know there is a growing movement in China among the massive house churches (tens of thousands come to Jesus every day supposedly!) called the "back to Jerusalem" movement? I have been reading about this on and off. Its amazing. The Chinese Christians who are being persecuted by the pseudo communist capitalist tyranny in China, have been led to start to reach back and spread the Gospel through the Muslim world and Africa and the barely reached 10/40 Window, to Jerusalem, and the Jewish people. They believe since it all began in Jerusalem, and spread through the Gentile world over the past 2000 + years, they and their other brethren (you and me and the free grace movement and all Christians) will reach Jerusalem, and then you know what Jesus said? The Gospel would be preached in all the world and then the Son of Man will return =) Of course, NONE of us know the date of the Rapture, but I find this amazing.

Have courage, take heart, JESUS IS LORD AND HE HAS TRIUMPHED!

I thank God for people like Trent who have been to India to reach these beloved people, and people like Von who do such wonderful work here on this website, and Marty, and Antonio, and Bob Wilkin, and all the rest!

GOD BLESS YOU ALL MY PRECIOUS BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN JESUS CHRIST!

QUOTE=Erin
OH WOW! Here you go! Here is the website and video to the BACK TO JERUSALEM movement among the Chinese Christians:

http://www.backtojerusalem.com/
No I will not, No I will not
Not go quietly
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