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6 turn'n and 4 burn'n
Topic Started: 19 Jan 2009, 09:38 PM (196 Views)
BLOWHARD	21 Jan 2009, 01:45 AM Post #11
Sergeant Posts: 214 Group: Members Member #31 Joined: 14 November 2008	That's one of the most amazing planes ever, hands down, commies, capitalists, or anyone else aside! I've been inside the plane at Dayton. You really need to stand under it to get a sense of how HUGE it is!!! Specs, Quote: B-36 Peacemaker Span: 230 feet Length: 162 feet, 1 inches Height: 46 feet, 9 inches Weight: 410,000 pounds loaded Armament: Sixteen M24 20mm cannon in eight nose, tail and fuselage turrets, 86,000 pounds of conventional or nuclear bombs Engine: Six Pratt & Whitney B 4360s of 3,800 horsepower and four General Electric J47s of 5,200 pounds thrust each Maximum speed: 435 mph Cruising speed: 230 mph Range: 10,000 miles Service ceiling: 45,700 feet Cost: $3,701,000 Those are 1950s dollars mind you! You could get a Cadillac for $3000-5000! Dig these videos- B-36s visit England The Peacemaker Cimmee, we may not see eye to eye about politics or ideology but we can agree that this plane is as magnificent as they come
	Fast and bulbous!


cimmee	21 Jan 2009, 10:27 PM Post #12
Warrant Officer Posts: 711 Group: Moderators Member #21 Joined: 6 November 2008	Was the Peacemaker ugly? Indeed it was. But what it carried was a thing of beauty... They have one at the museum in Dayton. I have been there quite a few times. One of the problems was the landing gear. They had to modify the original gear into bogies in order to land on conventional runways. Edited by cimmee, 21 Jan 2009, 10:29 PM.
	There is no problem in the human condition that cannot be solved by the proper placement, timing, tamping and fusing of high explosives.


cimmee	22 Jan 2009, 12:42 AM Post #13
Warrant Officer Posts: 711 Group: Moderators Member #21 Joined: 6 November 2008	I had never seen the video before. Uber cool. The early versions were overloaded. Too many defensive guns and way too much crap. The featherweight versions had an operational ceiling of 60,000 feet. MIGS could not reach them. They were used for recon and deterrence missions against the evil empire...
	There is no problem in the human condition that cannot be solved by the proper placement, timing, tamping and fusing of high explosives.


BLOWHARD	22 Jan 2009, 05:26 AM Post #14
Sergeant Posts: 214 Group: Members Member #31 Joined: 14 November 2008	I have the opposite opinion. I think the plane is beautiful but the bomb? That's plain ugly on so many levels. Mutual destruction may have been the only thing that kept the world safe but it doesn't make nuclear (or in the US, Nuculer) weapons pretty On the other hand, if you get past the destruction and nasty lasting effects and all, the explosions are really interesting. A cool movie to see is the Atomic Cafe, all restored footage of nuclear weapons programs.
	Fast and bulbous!


High Priestess	22 Jan 2009, 03:07 PM Post #15
Administrator Posts: 3,321 Group: Administrators Member #1 Joined: 19 June 2008	Thanks for providing the specs and the cool piccies BH!



Hoggy	22 Jan 2009, 06:14 PM Post #16
Moderator Posts: 1,192 Group: Moderators Member #12 Joined: 1 November 2008	I tend to agree with you, BH. Beauty is, after all, in the eye of the beholder.



BLOWHARD	22 Jan 2009, 08:31 PM Post #17
Sergeant Posts: 214 Group: Members Member #31 Joined: 14 November 2008	Planes, like cars and all sorts of other designed objects have a language all there own that go beyond universal aesthetic. Once you are thoroughly saturated with that language you can really appreciate the beauty of something others feel is ugly. The B-36 follows a pattern of development that leans on what came before it and that fits perfectly with the time. It looks LARGE and IN CHARGE with styling that tells you it belongs to a new superpower that knows how strong it is. Knowing that and the culture of the times, I see it as very satisfyingly beautiful Edited by BLOWHARD, 22 Jan 2009, 08:32 PM.
	Fast and bulbous!


cimmee	22 Jan 2009, 09:54 PM Post #18
Warrant Officer Posts: 711 Group: Moderators Member #21 Joined: 6 November 2008	BLOWHARD 22 Jan 2009, 05:26 AM I have the opposite opinion. I think the plane is beautiful but the bomb? That's plain ugly on so many levels. Mutual destruction may have been the only thing that kept the world safe but it doesn't make nuclear (or in the US, Nuculer) weapons pretty On the other hand, if you get past the destruction and nasty lasting effects and all, the explosions are really interesting. A cool movie to see is the Atomic Cafe, all restored footage of nuclear weapons programs. I picked the black and white as it was a lot more "Dr. Strangelovesque". Lord knows how filthy those weapons are... Edited by cimmee, 22 Jan 2009, 09:56 PM.
	There is no problem in the human condition that cannot be solved by the proper placement, timing, tamping and fusing of high explosives.


cimmee	26 Jan 2009, 11:30 PM Post #19
Warrant Officer Posts: 711 Group: Moderators Member #21 Joined: 6 November 2008	B-36 pit.
	There is no problem in the human condition that cannot be solved by the proper placement, timing, tamping and fusing of high explosives.


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