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| Topic Started: May 25 2014, 04:09 PM (189 Views) | |
| Jacapo | May 25 2014, 04:09 PM Post #1 |
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What does a Europe with a united germany look like in the 1950s and beyond? You are free to either pick a scenario where the Soviets conquered the whole thing by themselves or where the Western allies did. (OR a third scenario if you can think of one.) What does a solely NATO Germany or a communist bloc Germany look like and what do you think Europe looks like going into the cold war years? |
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| John | May 25 2014, 07:57 PM Post #2 |
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If Germany remains whole after WWII, it is because D-Day failed and the Soviet Union has occupied the whole country. How that might have changed history...no clue. |
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| Vonar Roberts | May 25 2014, 09:33 PM Post #3 |
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What if the Allies accepted Stalin's proposal in 52 for a reunification and neutralization of Germany, with no conditions on economic policies and with guarantees for "the rights of man and basic freedoms, including freedom of speech, press, religious persuasion, political conviction, and assembly" and free activity of democratic parties and organizations. |
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| Simon Darkshade | May 26 2014, 08:35 AM Post #4 |
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It wasn't regarded as a real proposal by the West and wasn't given as one. Stalin wasn't trusted. To alter the joint occupation of Germany, you need a PoD that is a fair way back in the war. That in turn will have butterflies in other areas, but could render a united Western-aligned Germany... |
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| John | May 26 2014, 03:51 PM Post #5 |
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Yes, you can also go back further than D-Day, but I think that June 1944 is more or less the last opportunity. |
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| Basil Fawlty | May 26 2014, 09:56 PM Post #6 |
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There is absolutely no way Germany would stay unified even if D-Day failed. In order to keep the Soviets from overrunning the whole country, the Germans would have to redeploy more and more forces to the east front, and as soon as that reached a crisis point the Allies would land in Calais. |
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