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| Topic Started: Jan 6 2014, 12:34 AM (1,396 Views) | |
| John | Jun 14 2014, 09:25 PM Post #51 |
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That is extremely unlikely. What is more likely is that there is some kind of negotiated peace wherein Germany does not lose the war. |
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| Vonar Roberts | Jun 14 2014, 09:38 PM Post #52 |
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The capture of Paris effectively means the end of the French logistical system, and the end of the war - even if it takes some time for French leaders to realize it. In the 1900's pretty much all railroads run through Paris. presumably with a centralized railroad structure Paris has a similar importance in population and industrialization to the French nation Edited by Vonar Roberts, Jun 14 2014, 09:44 PM.
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| Jacapo | Jun 14 2014, 09:43 PM Post #53 |
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That's a huge overestimation of the French and British abilities at the time. The British would no doubt be scrambling to get their small amount of troops off the continent while the French would be reeling from many losses at the Belgian border, the Marne, and Paris itself. |
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| John | Jun 14 2014, 10:02 PM Post #54 |
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It is not that at all. I just do not see Germany going through the trouble of occupying the whole country. With Russia still in the war, I think that even given a best-case scenario for Germany at the time, they'd arrange some kind of peace with France on generous terms that the French would likely accept and move on to focus their full attention on Russia. |
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| Vonar Roberts | Jun 14 2014, 10:17 PM Post #55 |
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I doubt the Germans would occupy the entire country. Chances are the Germans would ask for a province or two, and probably French Morocco. |
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| John | Jun 14 2014, 10:44 PM Post #56 |
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Why French Morocco? What real value would it have? Why not something adjoining German West Africa? This is not sarcasm. I seriously want to know if there is some reason other than mere prestige. |
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| Vonar Roberts | Jun 15 2014, 01:07 AM Post #57 |
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French Morocco makes sense as the Kaiser had originally started a diplomatic crisis over it in 1911. Admittedly there are more valuable French colonies out there, but this is one of the few colonies that the German's had shown a interest in prior to the outbreak of the great war. The loss of French Morocco would not be a devastating blow to the French either, and depending on the peace treaty itself if it is less harsh then versailles it would probably prevent a fascist style coup from occurring. Edited by Vonar Roberts, Jun 15 2014, 01:07 AM.
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| Basil Fawlty | Jun 29 2014, 02:26 AM Post #58 |
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Post Tenebras Lux
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Could the Great War have been prevented after the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand? Could it have been prevented after the Austro-Hungarian ultimatum was delivered, for example, by the stop-in-Belgrade plan? |
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| Petar | Jun 29 2014, 03:46 AM Post #59 |
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Stop-in-Belgrade plan? |
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| Basil Fawlty | Jun 29 2014, 02:59 PM Post #60 |
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There was some idea floated that the Austrians should halt their advance in Belgrade, after which a mediation would take place. The notion was to humiliate the Serbs, let the Austrians say "mission accomplished," while not turning it into a world war. |
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| Petar | Jun 29 2014, 03:08 PM Post #61 |
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I've actually never heard of that. On the other hand, I don't think it would've worked. |
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| Basil Fawlty | Jun 29 2014, 03:43 PM Post #62 |
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| Basil Fawlty | Nov 4 2014, 03:50 AM Post #63 |
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Today's Great War Centenary link: The Deaf in WWI. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-ouch-29846154 |
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| Basil Fawlty | Nov 26 2014, 06:19 PM Post #64 |
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30098000 Six unexpected battlefields of WWI. I chuckled heartily at this line:
Obviously written by someone who's never been anywhere near that border. |
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| Basil Fawlty | Jan 31 2015, 11:33 AM Post #65 |
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Post Tenebras Lux
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http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31042472 Today's topic: Gas warfare and its effectiveness. Today is also the 100th anniversary of the Battle of Bolimow, the first gas attack of the war. |
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| Castanos | Jan 31 2015, 11:04 PM Post #66 |
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Taking this topic slightly back. I am of the opinion that Russia is responsible for the outbreak of WW1, above all others. |
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| Myles | Feb 1 2015, 02:09 AM Post #67 |
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I would say that the chief factor, was all the alliances. Tensions between two of the nations would have brought in all the others, and it probable would have started anyway and the assassination was just the trigger. |
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| Basil Fawlty | Feb 10 2015, 11:21 PM Post #68 |
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Post Tenebras Lux
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Today's discussion topic: Foch and the 'cult of the offensive.' http://www.firstworldwar.com/features/foch.htm |
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| Matthew | Feb 11 2015, 01:28 AM Post #69 |
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Reminded me of this: http://s1.zetaboards.com/World_Empires/single/?p=1068025&t=4780629 I'm fairly certain I quoted Foch directly, though I cannot recall from where I got the quote.. “recklessness in attack could lead to prohibitive losses and ultimate failure” “the overwhelming rate of fire of the breech-loading repeating rifle, not to mention the machine gun, has given a tremendous advantage to the defender. I do not say an insurmountable advantage, but only tremendous.” Edit: And if on the other hand I made some of that up, I'm rather impressed with myself.. Edited by Matthew, Feb 11 2015, 01:29 AM.
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| Basil Fawlty | Mar 14 2015, 11:26 PM Post #70 |
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How were POWs treated during the war? You hear quite a lot about POWs in World War II, but very little about the First World War. I'd like to know where they were kept, how they lived day to day, and whether there were many escape attempts. |
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| Simon Darkshade | Mar 15 2015, 08:43 AM Post #71 |
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http://www.prisonersofwar1914-1918documents.com/ http://www.bl.uk/world-war-one/articles/prisoners-of-war http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_prisoners_of_war_in_Germany A few links to start off. Overall, it was somewhat similar to WW2 for Germans held in British camps and British prisoners held in Germany, with it being rougher for the Italians, Russians, Romanians, Austrians and anyone held by the Turks. |
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| Basil Fawlty | Mar 15 2015, 06:17 PM Post #72 |
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Most fascinating. What would you say is the reason for the relative difference in interest? Is it merely that WWII looms larger in popular consciousness? Even amongst American Civil War buffs, knowledge about POWs seems fairly common. I don't think I've ever heard any WWI buffs talk about that. (Not that I know very many of them.) |
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