| World War II Victory | |
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| Topic Started: Oct 26 2013, 01:53 AM (186 Views) | |
| Simon Darkshade | Oct 26 2013, 01:53 AM Post #1 |
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At what point was Allied victory in the Second World War secured in your view? Some put it as post Stalingrad and El Alamein, others post Midway and still others at the failure of the Germans to capture Moscow. I'd take the economic and resource view of post Lend Lease; that put the United States on a trajectory to enter the war, ensuring victory with their productive capacity. |
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| Matthew | Oct 26 2013, 04:44 PM Post #2 |
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In the latter vein I'd almost go with Churchill and say Pearl Harbour, as that sort of sealed the deal, so to speak, though I do suppose it was just a matter of time, in some ways, after Lend Lease. |
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| Petar | Oct 26 2013, 05:06 PM Post #3 |
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I think I would go with the German failure to capture Moscow - that would probably be the high water mark of the Reich. |
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| Basil Fawlty | Oct 27 2013, 12:56 AM Post #4 |
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A very cynical response would be January 30, 1933, given Hitler's propensity for irrational and harmful decisions. It is doubtful that the Germans would have taken on the world again without Herr Schicklgruber, but it is also paradoxically true that they might have done a better job at it without him. December 7, 1941 was probably the one single moment that sealed it. |
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| Vonar Roberts | Oct 27 2013, 05:37 AM Post #5 |
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The German's were quite close to starving the United Kingdom into submission right into early 1942 with supplies reaching as low as 6 months at one point. However in all honesty I would push it back to May 1941 when the US started to take over escort duties in the western Atlantic which freed up the Royal Navy and RCN for duties in the eastern half of the Atlantic. |
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| Simon Darkshade | Oct 27 2013, 11:36 AM Post #6 |
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That is an interesting contrast to most interpretations of the First Happy Time ending in early-mid 1941. The supply situation got bad in mid 1943, but literal or industrial starvation wasn't quite looming in 1942 or 1943 in the same way as it had been in 1917. |
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| Basil Fawlty | Oct 27 2013, 08:17 PM Post #7 |
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Is there anything on Hyperwar that shows how many tons of Allied shipping were needed in each war to support a division overseas for X days? That would be most useful. |
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| Simon Darkshade | Oct 27 2013, 09:52 PM Post #8 |
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I can have a look there and in some of my records; failing that, there are some places I could ask. |
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