| 100 Years: Sinking of the RMS Titanic | |
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| Topic Started: Feb 15 2012, 08:39 PM (655 Views) | |
| Basil Fawlty | Feb 15 2012, 08:39 PM Post #1 |
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This historical anniversary will be coming up in a couple of months, with several observances planned. Any thoughts on the occasion or the sinking itself? |
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| Petar | Feb 18 2012, 12:30 AM Post #2 |
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Personally, I take a lot of interest in RMS Titanic - it indeed changed the world, to say it so. The sheer amount of casualties, the importance of many of them (Benjamin Guggenheim and John Jacob Astor IV, to name the two most prominent), the superstitions regarding the ship, the legacy left behind, the heroism of many of the passengers, the changes in safety standards brought by this disaster - it all influenced the world of the time. This is truly a historic event, and should be observed properly. |
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| Simon Darkshade | Feb 19 2012, 03:53 AM Post #3 |
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It was a world shaking event, and the source for many potential alternate history points of departure. |
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| Basil Fawlty | Apr 10 2012, 07:09 PM Post #4 |
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And today is 100 years since it sailed from Southampton. |
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| Basil Fawlty | Apr 12 2012, 11:39 PM Post #5 |
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| Basil Fawlty | Apr 14 2012, 12:17 AM Post #6 |
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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/twitter-backlash-people-did-not-know-titanic-real-163523705.html Astounding.
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| Petar | Apr 14 2012, 12:19 AM Post #7 |
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Yes, I've seen that a couple of days ago. Ignorance always astounds me... |
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| Basil Fawlty | Apr 14 2012, 12:23 AM Post #8 |
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I can see it 50 years from now. "Dude! The Holocaust was real? How I am just finding out about this?" "Don't be ridiculous. There is no way to eliminate 6 million people in a world before nuclear weapons." Dear me... |
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| Simon Darkshade | Apr 14 2012, 05:43 PM Post #9 |
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Dear me...If I hadn't seen and heard some of the same type of things, it wouldn't be believable. Example from a 13 year old student: "Mr. Darkshade, were you around when Lance Armstrong walked on the moon?" |
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| Basil Fawlty | Apr 14 2012, 08:03 PM Post #10 |
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That would be quite a bicycle ride. |
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| Basil Fawlty | Apr 15 2012, 01:58 AM Post #11 |
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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/titanic-conspiracy-theories-mummy-curse-insurance-scam-reasons-205106898.html The bunker fire has some interesting possibilities for an AH game, if the ship should first put into a German port.
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| Matthew | Apr 15 2012, 01:59 AM Post #12 |
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And coupled with this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halifax_Explosion |
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| Basil Fawlty | Apr 15 2012, 07:21 AM Post #13 |
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Unfortunately the SS beat you to that idea... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Cap_Arcona Bloody bastards. |
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| Matthew | Apr 15 2012, 04:36 PM Post #14 |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WnJnWZrK83U |
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| Basil Fawlty | Apr 16 2012, 02:23 AM Post #15 |
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Matt had an interesting observation about the Titanic as a symbolic end to the Victorian age. It reminds me of what Kenneth More's character says in A Night to Remember. "We were so sure. I don't think I'll ever be really sure of anything again." It foreshadows the arrogance in the lead-up to the Western Front, and a misguided faith in human ability and progress. |
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| Simon Darkshade | Apr 16 2012, 05:13 AM Post #16 |
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Indeed, although that was coupled with the film being made in the 50s, so that the contrition of another world war was added to that directly related to the incident. It was one of those events that shaped the age to a small extent, similar to arguments I've seen regarding Mallory and Everest. |
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| Petar | Mar 11 2013, 11:06 PM Post #17 |
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I was just re-reading this thread when I saw this, and I simply had to share something that happened to me the other day. We had oral exams in Geography two weeks ago, and my friend and I were "volunteers". She was asked to tell the reasons of the 4th wave of emigration of Croats (post WWII emigration, so it's obviously political reasons, among others), and she didn't know the complete answer, so she fumbled something about the economy, the destruction etc... Until the teacher asked her: "Well, just think about it - who won WWII?" She answered: "Well, the Germans, no?" The teacher and I stared at her for at least half a minute. I don't know what the teach was thinking, but I was praying for a heart attack. Edited by Petar, Mar 11 2013, 11:07 PM.
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| Basil Fawlty | Mar 12 2013, 05:41 AM Post #18 |
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The Germans did win WWII. What was Berlin's main geostrategic goal? The destruction of the Soviet Union and the unification of Europe behind the "crusade" against Bolshevism. In that they succeeded entirely -- although with the little caveat that it was led by the United States and took 40 years to accomplish. ![]() Kidding aside, perhaps it was an honest mistake on your friend's part. Or perhaps she was thinking that the Germans overran Yugoslavia and "won" in the same sense that they won against France, Holland, Norway and Poland. |
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| Doctor_Strangelove | Mar 17 2013, 11:35 AM Post #19 |
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Edited by Doctor_Strangelove, Nov 11 2016, 10:23 AM.
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| Basil Fawlty | Mar 17 2013, 11:43 PM Post #20 |
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What astounds me is how the internet and modern communication have made such ignorance worse, rather than redressing it. 100 years ago it would be understandable if a young person living in Wyoming didn't grasp the importance of a funny Englishman named "Arthur Wellsy." Today I run into people who cannot even recognize once well known entertainment names, such as Johnny Carson or Walter Matthau. |
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