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Ancient Hungarians were scytho-sarmatians; Ancient Hungarians anthropology and genes say, hungarians were from Sumer, Subartu, Caucasus, Pontic Steppe, Central Asia
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Xiongnu DNA
Do you realize that Xiongnu are not related with Hungarians? but are physically Mongoloid race with some Europoid admixture


Archaeology


In the 1920s, Pyotr Kozlov's excavations of the royal tombs at Noin-Ula in northern Mongolia that date to around the 1st century CE, provided a glimpse into the lost world of the Xiongnu. Other archaeological sites have been unearthed in Inner Mongolia and elsewhere; they represent the Neolithic and historical periods of the Xiongnu's history.[49] Those included the Ordos culture, many of them had been identified as the Xiongnu cultures. The region was occupied predominantly by peoples showing Mongoloid features, known from their skeletal remains and artifacts. Portraits found in the Noin-Ula excavations demonstrate other cultural evidences and influences, showing that Chinese and Xiongnu art have influenced each other mutually. Some of these embroidered portraits in the Noin-Ula kurgans also depict the Xiongnu with long braided hair with wide ribbons, which are seen to be identical with the Turkic Ashina clan hair-style.[50] Well-preserved bodies in Xiongnu and pre-Xiongnu tombs in the Mongolian Republic and southern Siberia show both 'Mongoloid' and 'Caucasian' features[51] but are predominantly Mongoloid with some admixture of European physical stock, nonetheless the Xiongnu shared many cultural traits with their Indo-European neighbors, such as horse racing, sword worship.[52] Analysis of skeletal remains from sites attributed to the Xiongnu provides an identification of dolichocephalic Mongoloid, ethnically distinct from neighboring populations in present-day Mongolia.[53] Russian and Chinese anthropological and craniofacial studies show that the Xiongnu were physically very heterogenous, with six different population clusters showing different degrees of Mongoloid and Caucasoid physical traits. These clusters point to significant cross-regional migrations (both east to west and west to east) that likely started in the Neolithic period and continued to the medieval/Mongolian period.[54]


A majority (89%) of the Xiongnu mtDNA sequences can be classified as belonging to Asian haplogroups, and nearly 11% belong to European haplogroups. This finding indicates that the contacts between European and Asian populations were anterior to the Xiongnu cultureconfirms results reported for two samples from an early 3rd century BC. Scytho–Siberian population (Clisson et al. 2002).
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XIongnu was multinational tribal unio like the CCCP. Russians, tadjiks, komis, ukrainians etc. Russians are turks then?
Ordos scythian culture is the ancestor of Xiongnu, and ordos people were europid, later conquered the land of mongol , manchu population.
Your faces are these autochton asians. Mikhail Gerasimov reconstructed hunnic faces from ruler tombs.
They were europid, or europid dominant little bit sibirid typed people.
Like we hungarians.

Mat
Jan 17 2013, 11:06 PM
anyway for slavs I mean modern people from slovakia, poland ecc. which are, genetically and phenotypically, similar to modern hungarians... surely more similar than a turk or a mongolian. ;D
Slavs and hungarians are scytho-sarmatian-hun, baltofinn, german people.
In genetic
Slavic genetic never existed! Slavs not folk, some post huns from Attilas empire who were germans, baltofinns and scythosarmatians. Polish , croatian= sarmatian based people, bulgars are hun-sabir-ogurs like we magyars, russian Rurukids from Atilla the hun, moravian Samo is too. Prokopius had the first info about the slavs when the ants and sklaveni attacked Byzant, its happened after Hunnic Empire,info about the slavs before this time is 0. Slavic alphabet by the greeks, and culture too.
The maps with ancients slavs and aryan hypothesises re very very funny fairy tales for idiots, who dont know sources from antic world!
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Mtdna map, Y- DNA good night trolls!
Just evidence boyz and girz, the fairy tales in other posts!
Xiongnu DNA
Do you realize that Xiongnu are not related with Hungarians? but are physically Mongoloid race with some Europoid admixture


Archaeology


In the 1920s, Pyotr Kozlov's excavations of the royal tombs at Noin-Ula in northern Mongolia that date to around the 1st century CE, provided a glimpse into the lost world of the Xiongnu. Other archaeological sites have been unearthed in Inner Mongolia and elsewhere; they represent the Neolithic and historical periods of the Xiongnu's history.[49] Those included the Ordos culture, many of them had been identified as the Xiongnu cultures. The region was occupied predominantly by peoples showing Mongoloid features, known from their skeletal remains and artifacts. Portraits found in the Noin-Ula excavations demonstrate other cultural evidences and influences, showing that Chinese and Xiongnu art have influenced each other mutually. Some of these embroidered portraits in the Noin-Ula kurgans also depict the Xiongnu with long braided hair with wide ribbons, which are seen to be identical with the Turkic Ashina clan hair-style.[50] Well-preserved bodies in Xiongnu and pre-Xiongnu tombs in the Mongolian Republic and southern Siberia show both 'Mongoloid' and 'Caucasian' features[51] but are predominantly Mongoloid with some admixture of European physical stock, nonetheless the Xiongnu shared many cultural traits with their Indo-European neighbors, such as horse racing, sword worship.[52] Analysis of skeletal remains from sites attributed to the Xiongnu provides an identification of dolichocephalic Mongoloid, ethnically distinct from neighboring populations in present-day Mongolia.[53] Russian and Chinese anthropological and craniofacial studies show that the Xiongnu were physically very heterogenous, with six different population clusters showing different degrees of Mongoloid and Caucasoid physical traits. These clusters point to significant cross-regional migrations (both east to west and west to east) that likely started in the Neolithic period and continued to the medieval/Mongolian period.[54]


A majority (89%) of the Xiongnu mtDNA sequences can be classified as belonging to Asian haplogroups, and nearly 11% belong to European haplogroups. This finding indicates that the contacts between European and Asian populations were anterior to the Xiongnu cultureconfirms results reported for two samples from an early 3rd century BC. Scytho–Siberian population (Clisson et al. 2002).
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XIongnu was multinational tribal unio like the CCCP. Russians, tadjiks, komis, ukrainians etc. Russians are turks then?
Ordos scythian culture is the ancestor of Xiongnu, and ordos people were europid, later conquered the land of mongol , manchu population.
Your faces are these autochton asians. Mikhail Gerasimov reconstructed hunnic faces from ruler tombs.
They were europid, or europid dominant little bit sibirid typed people.
Like we hungarians.

Mat
Jan 17 2013, 11:06 PM
anyway for slavs I mean modern people from slovakia, poland ecc. which are, genetically and phenotypically, similar to modern hungarians... surely more similar than a turk or a mongolian. ;D
Slavs and hungarians are scytho-sarmatian-hun, baltofinn, german people.
In genetic
Slavic genetic never existed! Slavs not folk, some post huns from Attilas empire who were germans, baltofinns and scythosarmatians. Polish , croatian= sarmatian based people, bulgars are hun-sabir-ogurs like we magyars, russian Rurukids from Atilla the hun, moravian Samo is too. Prokopius had the first info about the slavs when the ants and sklaveni attacked Byzant, its happened after Hunnic Empire,info about the slavs before this time is 0. Slavic alphabet by the greeks, and culture too.
The maps with ancients slavs and aryan hypothesises re very very funny fairy tales for idiots, who dont know sources from antic world!
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XIongnu was multinational tribal unio like the CCCP. Russians, tadjiks, komis, ukrainians etc. Russians are turks then?
Ordos scythian culture is the ancestor of Xiongnu, and ordos people were europid, later conquered the land of mongol , manchu population.
Your faces are these autochton asians. Mikhail Gerasimov reconstructed hunnic faces from ruler tombs.
They were europid, or europid dominant little bit sibirid typed people.
Like we hungarians.



NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR THEORY

Lol..... Slavs genetic never existed? that's a good one.
As proven from the tombs of Xiongnu they were a confederation of mostly Mongoloid mixed mixed people, with a few Mongoloid and Caucasoid.

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ordos people were europid and conquered Mongol and Manchu population


PROVE IT TO ME..... there was also Mongoloid and half mongoloid/Europoid people in the ordos.


A similar type of burial at Hulusitai around Bayannur, uncovered in 1979 and dated to between the 5th and 4th centuries BCE, is considered the only Xiongnu site along the northern slope of Yinshan. The site consisted of mainly bronze artifacts and pottery and 27 horse skeletal remains.[9] Further excavation in 1983 at Guoxianyaozi uncovered a total of 31 burials dated to the 6th to 5th century BCE revealing strong north Mongoloid features. These generally decreased towards the south, and skeletal remains of east and north Mongoloid type can be seen from finds in Maoqinggou and Yinniugou dated to around the 7th century BCE, amounting to a total of 117 burials



According to Russian and Chinese anthropologist the Western Kazakhs from Mongolia are the closest physically descendants of Xiongnu and the Ordos look just like the Xiongnu

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In the 1920s, Pyotr Kozlov's excavations of the royal tombs at Noin-Ula in northern Mongolia that date to around the 1st century CE, provided a glimpse into the lost world of the Xiongnu. Other archaeological sites have been unearthed in Inner Mongolia and elsewhere; they represent the Neolithic and historical periods of the Xiongnu's history.[49] Those included the Ordos culture, many of them had been identified as the Xiongnu cultures. The region was occupied predominantly by peoples showing Mongoloid features, known from their skeletal remains and artifacts. Portraits found in the Noin-Ula excavations demonstrate other cultural evidences and influences, showing that Chinese and Xiongnu art have influenced each other mutually. Some of these embroidered portraits in the Noin-Ula kurgans also depict the Xiongnu with long braided hair with wide ribbons, which are seen to be identical with the Turkic Ashina clan hair-style.[50] Well-preserved bodies in Xiongnu and pre-Xiongnu tombs in the Mongolian Republic and southern Siberia show both 'Mongoloid' and 'Caucasian' features[51] but are predominantly Mongoloid with some admixture of European physical stock, nonetheless the Xiongnu shared many cultural traits with their Indo-European neighbors, such as horse racing, sword worship.[52] Analysis of skeletal remains from sites attributed to the Xiongnu provides an identification of dolichocephalic Mongoloid, ethnically distinct from neighboring populations in present-day Mongolia.[53] Russian and Chinese anthropological and craniofacial studies show that the Xiongnu were physically very heterogenous, with six different population clusters showing different degrees of Mongoloid and Caucasoid physical traits. These clusters point to significant cross-regional migrations (both east to west and west to east) that likely started in the Neolithic period and continued to the medieval/Mongolian period.[54]


A majority (89%) of the Xiongnu mtDNA sequences can be classified as belonging to Asian haplogroups, and nearly 11% belong to European haplogroups. This finding indicates that the contacts between European and Asian populations were anterior to the Xiongnu cultureconfirms results reported for two samples from an early 3rd century BC. Scytho–Siberian population (Clisson et al. 2002).
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XIongnu was multinational tribal unio like the CCCP. Russians, tadjiks, komis, ukrainians etc. Russians are turks then?
Ordos scythian culture is the ancestor of Xiongnu, and ordos people were europid, later conquered the land of mongol , manchu population.
Your faces are these autochton asians. Mikhail Gerasimov reconstructed hunnic faces from ruler tombs.
They were europid, or europid dominant little bit sibirid typed people.
Like we hungarians.

Mat
Jan 17 2013, 11:06 PM
anyway for slavs I mean modern people from slovakia, poland ecc. which are, genetically and phenotypically, similar to modern hungarians... surely more similar than a turk or a mongolian. ;D
Slavs and hungarians are scytho-sarmatian-hun, baltofinn, german people.
In genetic
Slavic genetic never existed! Slavs not folk, some post huns from Attilas empire who were germans, baltofinns and scythosarmatians. Polish , croatian= sarmatian based people, bulgars are hun-sabir-ogurs like we magyars, russian Rurukids from Atilla the hun, moravian Samo is too. Prokopius had the first info about the slavs when the ants and sklaveni attacked Byzant, its happened after Hunnic Empire,info about the slavs before this time is 0. Slavic alphabet by the greeks, and culture too.
The maps with ancients slavs and aryan hypothesises re very very funny fairy tales for idiots, who dont know sources from antic world!
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XIongnu was multinational tribal unio like the CCCP. Russians, tadjiks, komis, ukrainians etc. Russians are turks then?
Ordos scythian culture is the ancestor of Xiongnu, and ordos people were europid, later conquered the land of mongol , manchu population.
Your faces are these autochton asians. Mikhail Gerasimov reconstructed hunnic faces from ruler tombs.
They were europid, or europid dominant little bit sibirid typed people.
Like we hungarians.



NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR THEORY

Lol..... Slavs genetic never existed? that's a good one.
As proven from the tombs of Xiongnu they were a confederation of mostly Mongoloid mixed mixed people, with a few Mongoloid and Caucasoid.

Quote:
 
ordos people were europid and conquered Mongol and Manchu population


PROVE IT TO ME..... there was also Mongoloid and half mongoloid/Europoid people in the ordos.


A similar type of burial at Hulusitai around Bayannur, uncovered in 1979 and dated to between the 5th and 4th centuries BCE, is considered the only Xiongnu site along the northern slope of Yinshan. The site consisted of mainly bronze artifacts and pottery and 27 horse skeletal remains.[9] Further excavation in 1983 at Guoxianyaozi uncovered a total of 31 burials dated to the 6th to 5th century BCE revealing strong north Mongoloid features. These generally decreased towards the south, and skeletal remains of east and north Mongoloid type can be seen from finds in Maoqinggou and Yinniugou dated to around the 7th century BCE, amounting to a total of 117 burials



According to Russian and Chinese anthropologist the Western Kazakhs from Mongolia are the closest physically descendants of Xiongnu and the Ordos look just like the Xiongnu

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The mongolization of turkic folks happened in 13th century, by the mongols.
;) :D
The early tombs in Takla Makan, Ordos, Kazakstan regio, etc were europid, and europid with light mongolid influences.
I havent theory, I write the evidences.
If you have earlier text about slavs than Prokopius, write here!
here is an oghuz face from the steppe
this is the asian europid
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In the 1920s, Pyotr Kozlov's excavations of the royal tombs at Noin-Ula in northern Mongolia that date to around the 1st century CE, provided a glimpse into the lost world of the Xiongnu. Other archaeological sites have been unearthed in Inner Mongolia and elsewhere; they represent the Neolithic and historical periods of the Xiongnu's history.[49] Those included the Ordos culture, many of them had been identified as the Xiongnu cultures. The region was occupied predominantly by peoples showing Mongoloid features, known from their skeletal remains and artifacts. Portraits found in the Noin-Ula excavations demonstrate other cultural evidences and influences, showing that Chinese and Xiongnu art have influenced each other mutually. Some of these embroidered portraits in the Noin-Ula kurgans also depict the Xiongnu with long braided hair with wide ribbons, which are seen to be identical with the Turkic Ashina clan hair-style.[50] Well-preserved bodies in Xiongnu and pre-Xiongnu tombs in the Mongolian Republic and southern Siberia show both 'Mongoloid' and 'Caucasian' features[51] but are predominantly Mongoloid with some admixture of European physical stock, nonetheless the Xiongnu shared many cultural traits with their Indo-European neighbors, such as horse racing, sword worship.[52] Analysis of skeletal remains from sites attributed to the Xiongnu provides an identification of dolichocephalic Mongoloid, ethnically distinct from neighboring populations in present-day Mongolia.[53] Russian and Chinese anthropological and craniofacial studies show that the Xiongnu were physically very heterogenous, with six different population clusters showing different degrees of Mongoloid and Caucasoid physical traits. These clusters point to significant cross-regional migrations (both east to west and west to east) that likely started in the Neolithic period and continued to the medieval/Mongolian period.[54]


A majority (89%) of the Xiongnu mtDNA sequences can be classified as belonging to Asian haplogroups, and nearly 11% belong to European haplogroups. This finding indicates that the contacts between European and Asian populations were anterior to the Xiongnu cultureconfirms results reported for two samples from an early 3rd century BC. Scytho–Siberian population (Clisson et al. 2002).
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XIongnu was multinational tribal unio like the CCCP. Russians, tadjiks, komis, ukrainians etc. Russians are turks then?
Ordos scythian culture is the ancestor of Xiongnu, and ordos people were europid, later conquered the land of mongol , manchu population.
Your faces are these autochton asians. Mikhail Gerasimov reconstructed hunnic faces from ruler tombs.
They were europid, or europid dominant little bit sibirid typed people.
Like we hungarians.



NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR THEORY

Lol..... Slavs genetic never existed? that's a good one.
As proven from the tombs of Xiongnu they were a confederation of mostly Mongoloid mixed mixed people, with a few Mongoloid and Caucasoid.

Quote:
 
ordos people were europid and conquered Mongol and Manchu population


PROVE IT TO ME..... there was also Mongoloid and half mongoloid/Europoid people in the ordos.


A similar type of burial at Hulusitai around Bayannur, uncovered in 1979 and dated to between the 5th and 4th centuries BCE, is considered the only Xiongnu site along the northern slope of Yinshan. The site consisted of mainly bronze artifacts and pottery and 27 horse skeletal remains.[9] Further excavation in 1983 at Guoxianyaozi uncovered a total of 31 burials dated to the 6th to 5th century BCE revealing strong north Mongoloid features. These generally decreased towards the south, and skeletal remains of east and north Mongoloid type can be seen from finds in Maoqinggou and Yinniugou dated to around the 7th century BCE, amounting to a total of 117 burials



According to Russian and Chinese anthropologist the Western Kazakhs from Mongolia are the closest physically descendants of Xiongnu and the Ordos look just like the Xiongnu

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The mongolization of turkic folks happened in 13th century, by the mongols.
;) :D
The early tombs in Takla Makan, Ordos, Kazakstan regio, etc were europid, and europid with light mongolid influences.
I havent theory, I write the evidences.
If you have earlier text about slavs than Prokopius, write here!
here is an oghuz face from the steppe
this is the asian europid
Than man is a Turanid ( Eurasian mongoloid/Caucasoid hybrid)

His data

These written sources of X-XII centuries. the physical appearance of the Oghuz confirm some paleoanthropological materials. Among the found in the Oguz-Pecheneg mounds of western Kazakhstan skulls dominate Mongoloid types with the South Siberian features. However, there are also found the skull Caucasoid and metisnogo appearance. [13]

More intensive process of ethnic assimilation is likely to take place among the Oghuz south-western regions of Central Asia. Quite a few, but very interesting in this respect craniological material is located in southern Kazakhstan. In excavated ANBernshtam Oguz cemeteries Sasyk-Bulak buried dolihokrannye Caucasoids mixed with Mongoloid features. [14]

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Maybe you never seen Eurasian people enough to assume that every Caucasian looking Central Asian have to be Caucasoid.
These two Eurasians are white looking to the eye, but genetically they are half mongoloid with slight mongoloid features.

Half Korean/ Half Canadians.

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Half Chinese/ Half dutch
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In the 1920s, Pyotr Kozlov's excavations of the royal tombs at Noin-Ula in northern Mongolia that date to around the 1st century CE, provided a glimpse into the lost world of the Xiongnu. Other archaeological sites have been unearthed in Inner Mongolia and elsewhere; they represent the Neolithic and historical periods of the Xiongnu's history.[49] Those included the Ordos culture, many of them had been identified as the Xiongnu cultures. The region was occupied predominantly by peoples showing Mongoloid features, known from their skeletal remains and artifacts. Portraits found in the Noin-Ula excavations demonstrate other cultural evidences and influences, showing that Chinese and Xiongnu art have influenced each other mutually. Some of these embroidered portraits in the Noin-Ula kurgans also depict the Xiongnu with long braided hair with wide ribbons, which are seen to be identical with the Turkic Ashina clan hair-style.[50] Well-preserved bodies in Xiongnu and pre-Xiongnu tombs in the Mongolian Republic and southern Siberia show both 'Mongoloid' and 'Caucasian' features[51] but are predominantly Mongoloid with some admixture of European physical stock, nonetheless the Xiongnu shared many cultural traits with their Indo-European neighbors, such as horse racing, sword worship.[52] Analysis of skeletal remains from sites attributed to the Xiongnu provides an identification of dolichocephalic Mongoloid, ethnically distinct from neighboring populations in present-day Mongolia.[53] Russian and Chinese anthropological and craniofacial studies show that the Xiongnu were physically very heterogenous, with six different population clusters showing different degrees of Mongoloid and Caucasoid physical traits. These clusters point to significant cross-regional migrations (both east to west and west to east) that likely started in the Neolithic period and continued to the medieval/Mongolian period.[54]


A majority (89%) of the Xiongnu mtDNA sequences can be classified as belonging to Asian haplogroups, and nearly 11% belong to European haplogroups. This finding indicates that the contacts between European and Asian populations were anterior to the Xiongnu cultureconfirms results reported for two samples from an early 3rd century BC. Scytho–Siberian population (Clisson et al. 2002).
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NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR THEORY[9] Further excavation in 1983 at Guoxianyaozi uncovered a total of 31 burials dated to the 6th to 5th century BCE revealing strong north Mongoloid features. These generally decreased towards the south, and skeletal remains of east and north Mongoloid type can be seen from finds in Maoqinggou and Yinniugou dated to around the 7th century BCE, amounting to a total of 117 burials



According to Russian and Chinese anthropologist the Western Kazakhs from Mongolia are the closest physically descendants of Xiongnu and the Ordos look just like the Xiongnu

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The mongolization of turkic folks happened in 13th century, by the mongols.
;) :D
The early tombs in Takla Makan, Ordos, Kazakstan regio, etc were europid, and europid with light mongolid influences.
I havent theory, I write the evidences.
If you have earlier text about slavs than Prokopius, write here!
here is an oghuz face from the steppe
this is the asian europid
Than man is a Turanid ( Eurasian mongoloid/Caucasoid hybrid)

His data

These written sources of X-XII centuries. the physical appearance of the Oghuz confirm some paleoanthropological materials. Among the found in the Oguz-Pecheneg mounds of western Kazakhstan skulls dominate Mongoloid types with the South Siberian features. However, there are also found the skull Caucasoid and metisnogo appearance. [13]

More intensive process of ethnic assimilation is likely to take place among the Oghuz south-western regions of Central Asia. Quite a few, but very interesting in this respect craniological material is located in southern Kazakhstan. In excavated ANBernshtam Oguz cemeteries Sasyk-Bulak buried dolihokrannye Caucasoids mixed with Mongoloid features. [14]

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Maybe you never seen Eurasian people enough to assume that every Caucasian looking Central Asian have to be Caucasoid.
These two Eurasians are white looking to the eye, but genetically they are half mongoloid with slight mongoloid features.

Half Korean/ Half Canadians.

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Half Chinese/ Half dutch
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Its turanid with a light mongolid influence.
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In the 1920s, Pyotr Kozlov's excavations of the royal tombs at Noin-Ula in northern Mongolia that date to around the 1st century CE, provided a glimpse into the lost world of the Xiongnu. Other archaeological sites have been unearthed in Inner Mongolia and elsewhere; they represent the Neolithic and historical periods of the Xiongnu's history.[49] Those included the Ordos culture, many of them had been identified as the Xiongnu cultures. The region was occupied predominantly by peoples showing Mongoloid features, known from their skeletal remains and artifacts. Portraits found in the Noin-Ula excavations demonstrate other cultural evidences and influences, showing that Chinese and Xiongnu art have influenced each other mutually. Some of these embroidered portraits in the Noin-Ula kurgans also depict the Xiongnu with long braided hair with wide ribbons, which are seen to be identical with the Turkic Ashina clan hair-style.[50] Well-preserved bodies in Xiongnu and pre-Xiongnu tombs in the Mongolian Republic and southern Siberia show both 'Mongoloid' and 'Caucasian' features[51] but are predominantly Mongoloid with some admixture of European physical stock, nonetheless the Xiongnu shared many cultural traits with their Indo-European neighbors, such as horse racing, sword worship.[52] Analysis of skeletal remains from sites attributed to the Xiongnu provides an identification of dolichocephalic Mongoloid, ethnically distinct from neighboring populations in present-day Mongolia.[53] Russian and Chinese anthropological and craniofacial studies show that the Xiongnu were physically very heterogenous, with six different population clusters showing different degrees of Mongoloid and Caucasoid physical traits. These clusters point to significant cross-regional migrations (both east to west and west to east) that likely started in the Neolithic period and continued to the medieval/Mongolian period.[54]


A majority (89%) of the Xiongnu mtDNA sequences can be classified as belonging to Asian haplogroups, and nearly 11% belong to European haplogroups. This finding indicates that the contacts between European and Asian populations were anterior to the Xiongnu cultureconfirms results reported for two samples from an early 3rd century BC. Scytho–Siberian population (Clisson et al. 2002).
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NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR THEORY[9] Further excavation in 1983 at Guoxianyaozi uncovered a total of 31 burials dated to the 6th to 5th century BCE revealing strong north Mongoloid features. These generally decreased towards the south, and skeletal remains of east and north Mongoloid type can be seen from finds in Maoqinggou and Yinniugou dated to around the 7th century BCE, amounting to a total of 117 burials



According to Russian and Chinese anthropologist the Western Kazakhs from Mongolia are the closest physically descendants of Xiongnu and the Ordos look just like the Xiongnu

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Than man is a Turanid ( Eurasian mongoloid/Caucasoid hybrid)

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These written sources of X-XII centuries. the physical appearance of the Oghuz confirm some paleoanthropological materials. Among the found in the Oguz-Pecheneg mounds of western Kazakhstan skulls dominate Mongoloid types with the South Siberian features. However, there are also found the skull Caucasoid and metisnogo appearance. [13]

More intensive process of ethnic assimilation is likely to take place among the Oghuz south-western regions of Central Asia. Quite a few, but very interesting in this respect craniological material is located in southern Kazakhstan. In excavated ANBernshtam Oguz cemeteries Sasyk-Bulak buried dolihokrannye Caucasoids mixed with Mongoloid features. [14]

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Maybe you never seen Eurasian people enough to assume that every Caucasian looking Central Asian have to be Caucasoid.
These two Eurasians are white looking to the eye, but genetically they are half mongoloid with slight mongoloid features.

Half Korean/ Half Canadians.

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Half Chinese/ Half dutch
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Its turanid with a light mongolid influence.
Like I said they are mixed with Mongoloid, they just look Caucasian but reality is they existed out of the mongoloid admixtures.


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In the 1920s, Pyotr Kozlov's excavations of the royal tombs at Noin-Ula in northern Mongolia that date to around the 1st century CE, provided a glimpse into the lost world of the Xiongnu. Other archaeological sites have been unearthed in Inner Mongolia and elsewhere; they represent the Neolithic and historical periods of the Xiongnu's history.[49] Those included the Ordos culture, many of them had been identified as the Xiongnu cultures. The region was occupied predominantly by peoples showing Mongoloid features, known from their skeletal remains and artifacts. Portraits found in the Noin-Ula excavations demonstrate other cultural evidences and influences, showing that Chinese and Xiongnu art have influenced each other mutually. Some of these embroidered portraits in the Noin-Ula kurgans also depict the Xiongnu with long braided hair with wide ribbons, which are seen to be identical with the Turkic Ashina clan hair-style.[50] Well-preserved bodies in Xiongnu and pre-Xiongnu tombs in the Mongolian Republic and southern Siberia show both 'Mongoloid' and 'Caucasian' features[51] but are predominantly Mongoloid with some admixture of European physical stock, nonetheless the Xiongnu shared many cultural traits with their Indo-European neighbors, such as horse racing, sword worship.[52] Analysis of skeletal remains from sites attributed to the Xiongnu provides an identification of dolichocephalic Mongoloid, ethnically distinct from neighboring populations in present-day Mongolia.[53] Russian and Chinese anthropological and craniofacial studies show that the Xiongnu were physically very heterogenous, with six different population clusters showing different degrees of Mongoloid and Caucasoid physical traits. These clusters point to significant cross-regional migrations (both east to west and west to east) that likely started in the Neolithic period and continued to the medieval/Mongolian period.[54]


A majority (89%) of the Xiongnu mtDNA sequences can be classified as belonging to Asian haplogroups, and nearly 11% belong to European haplogroups. This finding indicates that the contacts between European and Asian populations were anterior to the Xiongnu cultureconfirms results reported for two samples from an early 3rd century BC. Scytho–Siberian population (Clisson et al. 2002).
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NO EVIDENCE FOR YOUR THEORY[9] Further excavation in 1983 at Guoxianyaozi uncovered a total of 31 burials dated to the 6th to 5th century BCE revealing strong north Mongoloid features. These generally decreased towards the south, and skeletal remains of east and north Mongoloid type can be seen from finds in Maoqinggou and Yinniugou dated to around the 7th century BCE, amounting to a total of 117 burials



According to Russian and Chinese anthropologist the Western Kazakhs from Mongolia are the closest physically descendants of Xiongnu and the Ordos look just like the Xiongnu

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More intensive process of ethnic assimilation is likely to take place among the Oghuz south-western regions of Central Asia. Quite a few, but very interesting in this respect craniological material is located in southern Kazakhstan. In excavated ANBernshtam Oguz cemeteries Sasyk-Bulak buried dolihokrannye Caucasoids mixed with Mongoloid features. [14]

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Maybe you never seen Eurasian people enough to assume that every Caucasian looking Central Asian have to be Caucasoid.
These two Eurasians are white looking to the eye, but genetically they are half mongoloid with slight mongoloid features.

Half Korean/ Half Canadians.

Posted Image

Half Chinese/ Half dutch
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Its turanid with a light mongolid influence.
Like I said they are mixed with Mongoloid, they just look Caucasian but reality is they existed out of the mongoloid admixtures.


Its turanid, I know a mongoloid but he is göktürk.
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