| Shouldn't the Semitic languages be named the Arabian languages; 'The Arabian languages' is a more appropriate name | |
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| Topic Started: Aug 7 2012, 10:47 AM (924 Views) | |
| Enmerkar | Aug 7 2012, 10:47 AM Post #1 |
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Something profound occurred to me a while ago. Why isn't the 'Semitic' language family called the Arabian language family? It makes perfect sense; most and possibly all 'Semitic' languages are known to originate from Arabia. Language families are normally named for geographic regions; not for Biblical mythology. The Iranian languages are named after the Iranian plateau, so why aren't the 'Semitic' languages named after the Arabian peninsula, where they virtually all originated? There is every reason to rename the Semitic languages: the Arabian languages. The Akkadian, Amorite, Arabic, Aramaic, Eblaite, Hebrew, Phoenician languages are part of the Arabian language family. This proposal is appropriate, logical and long overdue. Start lobbying. |
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| topos | Aug 7 2012, 11:01 AM Post #2 |
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Well, they are already part of the Afro-Asiatic languages, so it's not much of a change. |
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| Bulletproofpride | Aug 7 2012, 02:35 PM Post #3 |
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I believe in that theory too but I am getting the feeling you are an arab and are pretending to be european. Proof me wrong. |
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| Kawpun | Aug 7 2012, 05:47 PM Post #4 |
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Arabic, Hebrew and such I would rather call 'Eberic' languages because I think Shem's son Eber forms a distinct group of people (like Japheth, Ham, Shem, then we have Eber , also we have the pre-flood Adamites and 6th day creation people, and, of course, the tares, today's pagans mostly). Now, before calling me a backwards Bible fanatic let's know that this is based exactly on Biblical account(Shem-Semites) and in Bible account languages got confused big time at certain point in time, so there aren't very clear parameters anymore. I would rather say the 'truer' Shemites are the likes of French(Asshur?), Italians(Lud, Aram ?) and English(Elam?) etc. |
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| Bulletproofpride | Aug 7 2012, 05:49 PM Post #5 |
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Lol when did the french turn semitic ? |
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| topos | Aug 7 2012, 05:58 PM Post #6 |
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@Kawpun. But you know that it is said of the tares that people live together with them and have children with them? So they live amongst people, not somewhere else. |
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| Kawpun | Aug 7 2012, 07:12 PM Post #7 |
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try to read the post with some deeper understanding. but if you insist, i still can explain. |
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| Bulletproofpride | Aug 7 2012, 07:13 PM Post #8 |
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no go ahead explain |
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| Kawpun | Aug 7 2012, 07:15 PM Post #9 |
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yeah, but in most of cases(not always, though) these marriages are 'arranged', for example a man or woman marrying a person to acquire better status, since tares basically run everything. 1)i didn't say the french are semitic - i think patrilinearly they are mostly of Celtic origin, but that the Atlanto Med phenotype which is like second to Celtic one is in my opinion from Shem's son Asshur(ancient Assyrians likewise). 2)i said that the modern linguistic classifications are not very reliable here if we take as fact that the languages got confused at the tower of Babel. So today a Shemitic people may speak a 'Indo-European' language and vice versa. Edited by Kawpun, Aug 7 2012, 07:19 PM.
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| Bulletproofpride | Aug 7 2012, 07:33 PM Post #10 |
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Oh, you ment pheno. Thats ok. I thought you said paternal. |
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| Kawpun | Aug 7 2012, 07:35 PM Post #11 |
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paternal is also significant, no doubt. |
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| Bulletproofpride | Aug 7 2012, 07:50 PM Post #12 |
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how is that significant? Europeans hardly have j1 let alone j1c3d & E-m123 |
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| Toiletman | Aug 7 2012, 09:47 PM Post #13 |
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LOL. Bible linguistics. No thanks, i prefer sciences. They are not called Arabian languages because they aren't. Even if the original home of the Afro Asiatic languages turns out to be in arabia proper, it does not mean that they were Arabs in the modern meaning. Arabs are a part of the semitic/afro-asiatic languages, like egyptians, assyrians, phoenicians. The civilisatory centres of these civilisations were in the Nile region and in mesopotamia, not the arab peninsula. |
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| Kawpun | Aug 7 2012, 10:18 PM Post #14 |
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yes, sciences which claim the Earth is 6 billion years old(instead of it's real 6 thousand), ROFLMAO. Trolls on this site are duplicating like ants and their methods are getting cheaper and very transparent. |
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| Toiletman | Aug 8 2012, 02:48 AM Post #15 |
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We have history that is older than that. I guess god made fun of humans in creating traces of older civilisations then. And if I'm a troll, I'm an old one already  Already that you reject sciences in general is funny. Get off your computer. It's made of science. Also off your tv, even out of your house. Go live in a forest or fall up a tree. |
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| Kawpun | Aug 8 2012, 12:50 PM Post #16 |
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I will consider what you have said, greets |
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Aug 8 2012, 02:51 PM Post #17 |
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But "Arabian" pertains to the geographic location "Arabia", not Arab ethnicity. It is still being debated where proto-Semitic arose, some claim the Semitic Urheimat was the Fertile Crescent (or if you're samysamy25, East Africa). But I think the mainstream view is that it originated in the Arabian peninsula. Edited by stonesheep, Aug 8 2012, 03:06 PM.
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| Parallax | Aug 8 2012, 03:14 PM Post #18 |
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I am lost for words. |
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| Kawpun | Aug 8 2012, 05:36 PM Post #19 |
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okay, maybe 10 thousand but no more |
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| Dewd | Aug 8 2012, 06:21 PM Post #20 |
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It's not like the age of the earth is something you can haggle over and "give" the opposition a few more years lol. Actually the earth is about 4.5 billion years old as far as we are able to estimate now, not 6. Humans have been around in a similar physical form for almost 200,000 years. The universe, though, is 13.7 billion years old approximately. The Tower of Babel was meant as an allegory. And I think Semitic as a subset of Afro-Asiatic works fine, since not all speakers are "Arabian" technically. |
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