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Women Now Have Higher IQs Than Men
Topic Started: Jul 16 2012, 06:35 PM (1,112 Views)
*Crimson Guard*	Jul 16 2012, 06:35 PM Post #1
Spirit of Vengeance Posts: 19,665 Group: Moderators Member #3 Joined: Apr 2, 2008 Gender: Male Ancestry: Southern European Religion: Roman Catholic Politics: Far Right	Quote: Given that women have long outnumbered men on college campuses and hold more advanced degrees than their male counterparts, it makes sense that they would also score higher on IQ tests. But for the last 100 years, they’ve lagged behind men by as much as five points—although their scores have been rising. Finally, according to IQ expert James Flynn, women have closed the IQ gap and are in fact scoring higher than men, reports the Telegraph. IQ — or intelligence quotient — the most widely used measure of intelligence and is determined based on one’s deviation from the average IQ score of a certain age group. It’s thought to be a product of both environmental and hereditary factors, and is a statistically reliable predictor of future educational achievement, job performance and income. But the reasons for demographic differences in IQ — for example, between races or genders — have long been widely debated. There are many possible reasons that women finally surpassed men in IQ after a century of falling behind, according to Flynn, who is writing a book about IQ and gender. One theory is that women have always been capable of scoring higher but, because of discriminatory gender socializing, never realized their own potential. Gender-based differences in education, upbringing and social roles have historically set the bar lower for women. “This improvement is more marked for women than for men because they were disadvantaged in the past,” Flint told the Telegraph. http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/07/16/why-women-finally-have-higher-iqs-than-men/



Delilah	Jul 16 2012, 07:14 PM Post #2
Tan Boricua como el coqui Posts: 16,645 Group: Members Member #125 Joined: Dec 2, 2008 Gender: Female Ancestry: Hispanic/Latino Religion: Christian Politics: Center	I've noticed this myself. Why are there so many men without college degrees?



*Crimson Guard*	Jul 16 2012, 07:29 PM Post #3
Spirit of Vengeance Posts: 19,665 Group: Moderators Member #3 Joined: Apr 2, 2008 Gender: Male Ancestry: Southern European Religion: Roman Catholic Politics: Far Right	I think most guys hate school and end up wanting to beat the shit outve the teachers half the time, as those teachers are often assholes.



Delilah	Jul 16 2012, 07:49 PM Post #4
Tan Boricua como el coqui Posts: 16,645 Group: Members Member #125 Joined: Dec 2, 2008 Gender: Female Ancestry: Hispanic/Latino Religion: Christian Politics: Center	LOL. Maybe men are more rebellious than women. I find even on here some men don't like to be told anything but if a man says the same thing they accept it ok.



Pandemicus	Jul 16 2012, 07:51 PM Post #5
Senior Member Posts: 2,321 Group: Members Member #1,750 Joined: Apr 2, 2011 Gender: Male Ancestry: European Religion: Protestant Politics: Far Right	That's probably true.
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Robert	Jul 16 2012, 08:04 PM Post #6
Advanced Member Posts: 6,401 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: Apr 7, 2008 Gender: Male Ancestry: European	Delilah Jul 16 2012, 07:49 PM LOL. Maybe men are more rebellious than women. I find even on here some men don't like to be told anything but if a man says the same thing they accept it ok. The school system is setup in a very effeminate way. Women learn better by group learning, working on things as a team as opposed to individual efforts, patience of sitting and listening to long winded/boring things for a long time. Not saying this to sound sexist, but it's true. Women function/thrive better in that sort of setting than men do.



Delilah	Jul 16 2012, 08:10 PM Post #7
Tan Boricua como el coqui Posts: 16,645 Group: Members Member #125 Joined: Dec 2, 2008 Gender: Female Ancestry: Hispanic/Latino Religion: Christian Politics: Center	Robert Jul 16 2012, 08:04 PM Delilah Jul 16 2012, 07:49 PM LOL. Maybe men are more rebellious than women. I find even on here some men don't like to be told anything but if a man says the same thing they accept it ok. The school system is setup in a very effeminate way. Women learn better by group learning, working on things as a team as opposed to individual efforts, patience of sitting and listening to long winded/boring things for a long time. Not saying this to sound sexist, but it's true. Women function/thrive better in that sort of setting than men do. I can't agree with effeminate Rob. In all truth both girls and boys especially teenagers are more interested in their social lives than in anything having to do with learning. I actually think the genders should be kept separate because there is just too much raging hormones for them to concentrate on learning anything. I sat through many a boring lecture in college as well but my motivation to do that was the end-product. But I did doodle a lot in my notebooks!



~~Vicente Maximiano~~	Jul 16 2012, 08:13 PM Post #8
Pilgrim Posts: 3,685 Group: Banned Member #2,884 Joined: Dec 8, 2011 Gender: Male Ancestry: Southern European Religion: Roman Catholic Politics: Center	I am sure there is a resonable explanation to this. Everyone knows men are smarter.



Berserk	Jul 16 2012, 08:28 PM Post #9
Advanced Member Posts: 4,943 Group: Members Member #311 Joined: Apr 4, 2009 Gender: Male Politics: Independent	Raedwulf Jul 16 2012, 08:13 PM I am sure there is a resonable explanation to this. Everyone knows men are smarter. The average IQ of men and women is about the same. The difference however is that the male curve is flatter than the female curve. This means that most women group around 100 IQ score, whereas there are more idiots and geniuses among men. The male brain is more radical since you only inherit one Y-chromosome from your father, whereas women have two X chromosomes to rely upon; so their intelligence is more stable. So, while there are more women in colleges and universities than men, if you go into the science, engineering, and mathematics based classes you'll find very few women; but if you go into the liberal arts classes you'll find very few men. So, one can argue that women are getting worthless degrees while men are still the ones driving technological innovation. Edited by Berserk, Jul 16 2012, 08:30 PM.



Delilah	Jul 16 2012, 08:31 PM Post #10
Tan Boricua como el coqui Posts: 16,645 Group: Members Member #125 Joined: Dec 2, 2008 Gender: Female Ancestry: Hispanic/Latino Religion: Christian Politics: Center	Who are you to claim one field of study is superior to the other? I don't buy into that BS. So a man with a Ph.D in Philosophy is not as intelligent as one who has a Ph.D in Math? There is such a thing as different kinds of intelligence and interests. Edited by Delilah, Jul 16 2012, 08:34 PM.



Robert	Jul 16 2012, 08:33 PM Post #11
Advanced Member Posts: 6,401 Group: Members Member #27 Joined: Apr 7, 2008 Gender: Male Ancestry: European	Yeah women are the archetype human form while men are heavily mutated in comparison. There is a lot more stress/work at play when a male child develops and it causes for more radical performance and variability later on in life. Guess that's why they thrive less in a standardized environment. Men are also probably more risk oriented as well.



Berserk	Jul 16 2012, 08:39 PM Post #12
Advanced Member Posts: 4,943 Group: Members Member #311 Joined: Apr 4, 2009 Gender: Male Politics: Independent	Delilah Jul 16 2012, 08:31 PM Who are you to claim one field of study is superior to the other? I don't buy into that BS. So a man with a Ph.D in Philosophy is not as intelligent as one who has a Ph.D in Math? There is such a thing as different kinds of intelligence and interests. There are men who are geniuses working in all fields, so I'm not trying to bash philosophy. However, it does take a certain level of IQ to work in certain fields like science and engineering, which tends to exclude men and women who are average or below average. The point I was making is that if you walk into an English literature class, you basically have no way of telling how intelligent the students there are right away; there probably wouldn't be very many idiots there but the rest could be average since the amount of intelligence it takes to pass an English literature class isn't much compared to the amount of intelligence it would take to pass a Quantum Mechanics class. Students tend to know this, which is why not many sign up for the harder classes. In fact, one of the problems that America has today is that too many young people are getting degrees in fields like literature, philosophy, political science, etc. and not enough are getting math and science based degrees; and those students wonder why it's so difficult for them to get hired after they graduate. Edited by Berserk, Jul 16 2012, 08:41 PM.



Delilah	Jul 16 2012, 08:42 PM Post #13
Tan Boricua como el coqui Posts: 16,645 Group: Members Member #125 Joined: Dec 2, 2008 Gender: Female Ancestry: Hispanic/Latino Religion: Christian Politics: Center	Berserk Jul 16 2012, 08:39 PM Delilah Jul 16 2012, 08:31 PM Who are you to claim one field of study is superior to the other? I don't buy into that BS. So a man with a Ph.D in Philosophy is not as intelligent as one who has a Ph.D in Math? There is such a thing as different kinds of intelligence and interests. There are men who are geniuses working in all fields, so I'm not trying to bash philosophy. However, it does take a certain level of IQ to work in certain fields like science and engineering, which tends to exclude men and women who are average or below average. The point I was making is that if you walk into an English literature class, you basically have no way of telling how intelligent the students there are right away; there probably wouldn't be very many idiots there but the rest could be average since the amount of intelligence it takes to pass an English literature class isn't much compared to the amount of intelligence it would take to pass a Quantum Mechanics class. I don't agree Berserk. I find that people who are good in Math do very poorly in History or English. So again I see that as different kinds of intelligence. More like one is better verbally. As humans, we just can't be good at everything.



Berserk	Jul 16 2012, 08:47 PM Post #14
Advanced Member Posts: 4,943 Group: Members Member #311 Joined: Apr 4, 2009 Gender: Male Politics: Independent	Delilah Jul 16 2012, 08:42 PM Berserk Jul 16 2012, 08:39 PM Delilah Jul 16 2012, 08:31 PM Who are you to claim one field of study is superior to the other? I don't buy into that BS. So a man with a Ph.D in Philosophy is not as intelligent as one who has a Ph.D in Math? There is such a thing as different kinds of intelligence and interests. There are men who are geniuses working in all fields, so I'm not trying to bash philosophy. However, it does take a certain level of IQ to work in certain fields like science and engineering, which tends to exclude men and women who are average or below average. The point I was making is that if you walk into an English literature class, you basically have no way of telling how intelligent the students there are right away; there probably wouldn't be very many idiots there but the rest could be average since the amount of intelligence it takes to pass an English literature class isn't much compared to the amount of intelligence it would take to pass a Quantum Mechanics class. I don't agree Berserk. I find that people who are good in Math do very poorly in History or English. So again I see that as different kinds of intelligence. More like one is better verbally. As humans, we just can't be good at everything. Perhaps they don't have any interest in those fields. I'm the same way. In college I got A's in the classes that I enjoyed and I tended to get C's and B's in the classes that I hated. I'll give you an example. I hate Chemistry. I took it and got a C. I understood the concepts, but I was never motivated to study for it because it was so damn boring!!! But, I love biology and I aced my biology classes. I also like physics so I did well in that too. So, our interests come into play as well. So, one of the arguments that one can use to defend women in terms of why so few of them do math and science based degrees, is that they're just not interested in those fields. I'm willing to buy that, as from an early age boys like to tinker with things while girls like to play with dolls and socialize; so it's not surprising that boys grow up and enjoy take science and engineering classes while girls grow into women that enjoy classes where you discuss books and social issues in groups.



Delilah	Jul 16 2012, 08:53 PM Post #15
Tan Boricua como el coqui Posts: 16,645 Group: Members Member #125 Joined: Dec 2, 2008 Gender: Female Ancestry: Hispanic/Latino Religion: Christian Politics: Center	Berserk Jul 16 2012, 08:47 PM Delilah Jul 16 2012, 08:42 PM Berserk Jul 16 2012, 08:39 PM Quoting limited to 3 levels deep I don't agree Berserk. I find that people who are good in Math do very poorly in History or English. So again I see that as different kinds of intelligence. More like one is better verbally. As humans, we just can't be good at everything. Perhaps they don't have any interest in those fields. I'm the same way. In college I got A's in the classes that I enjoyed and I tended to get C's and B's in the classes that I hated. I'll give you an example. I hate Chemistry. I took it and got a C. I understood the concepts, but I was never motivated to study for it because it was so damn boring!!! But, I love biology and I aced my biology classes. I also like physics so I did well in that too. So, our interests come into play as well. So, one of the arguments that one can use to defend women in terms of why so few of them do math and science based degrees, is that they're just not interested in those fields. I'm willing to buy that, as from an early age boys like to tinker with things while girls like to play with dolls and socialize; so it's not surprising that boys grow up and enjoy take science and engineering classes while girls grow into women that enjoy classes where you discuss books and social issues in groups. Yes that's probably the reason. I happen to have had female friends who were good at math and hated history! They hated memorizing dates and facts and not only that but thinking critically about historical issues. I think people who specialize in social sciences are more analytical thinkers and we need them too. They balance those mathematical thinkers.



~~Vicente Maximiano~~	Jul 16 2012, 08:59 PM Post #16
Pilgrim Posts: 3,685 Group: Banned Member #2,884 Joined: Dec 8, 2011 Gender: Male Ancestry: Southern European Religion: Roman Catholic Politics: Center	Delilah Jul 16 2012, 08:53 PM I think people who specialize in social sciences are more analytical thinkers and we need them too. This has to be a joke.



El Caudillo	Jul 16 2012, 09:00 PM Post #17
Inactive Account Posts: 2,538 Group: Members Member #134 Joined: Dec 4, 2008	i dont care if women have higher iqs i like having lower stress tbh



Delilah	Jul 16 2012, 09:02 PM Post #18
Tan Boricua como el coqui Posts: 16,645 Group: Members Member #125 Joined: Dec 2, 2008 Gender: Female Ancestry: Hispanic/Latino Religion: Christian Politics: Center	Raedwulf Jul 16 2012, 08:59 PM Delilah Jul 16 2012, 08:53 PM I think people who specialize in social sciences are more analytical thinkers and we need them too. This has to be a joke. No no joke. You seem biased against social sciences. Social sciences includes all these areas: anthropology, archaeology, criminology, economics, history, linguistics, communication studies, political science and international relations, sociology, geography, law, and psychology.[1][2] Edited by Delilah, Jul 16 2012, 09:04 PM.



~~Vicente Maximiano~~	Jul 16 2012, 09:05 PM Post #19
Pilgrim Posts: 3,685 Group: Banned Member #2,884 Joined: Dec 8, 2011 Gender: Male Ancestry: Southern European Religion: Roman Catholic Politics: Center	If I sound biased it is because of my experience with them. Okay. Maybe people who study Law, Economics, Criminology and International Relations are analytical thinkers, you can exclude the rest. Edited by Vicente Maximiano, Jul 16 2012, 09:07 PM.



Delilah	Jul 16 2012, 09:15 PM Post #20
Tan Boricua como el coqui Posts: 16,645 Group: Members Member #125 Joined: Dec 2, 2008 Gender: Female Ancestry: Hispanic/Latino Religion: Christian Politics: Center	Raedwulf Jul 16 2012, 09:05 PM If I sound biased it is because of my experience with them. Okay. Maybe people who study Law, Economics, Criminology and International Relations are analytical thinkers, you can exclude the rest. You can't exclude the rest because of your opinion.



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