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Modern hunter-gatherers can now order delivery and still follow the paleolithic diet, or the “paleo” diet for short. This diet imitates the daily meals of our ancestors and purports that diseases like type-2 diabetes, heart disease and hypertension are in large part due to the diet of modern civilization.
The Paleolithic Era dates back more than 2 million years, before the age of wide-scale farming and domesticated animals. People following the paleo diet try their best to adapt today’s foods to yesterday’s nutritional intake, opting for high fat meats and vegetables over grains and legumes. If you are interested in this prehistoric food pyramid, here is a guide to the paleo diet:

What to eat
Hunter-gatherers did not write cookbooks, so the conditions of a paleo diet can vary greatly, depending on different speculations about prehistoric diets. Broad guidelines encourage eating red meat, fish, poultry and eggs for protein. A variety of fruits and vegetables contribute fiber and important nutrients to the diet. Oils such as canola oil, mayonnaise and olive oil are welcome additions to the meal. Hunter-gatherers were limited to the food within proximity and non-domesticated animals, so followers of the diet should try to eat locally grown produce and free-range meat.

What to avoid
One of the largest game changers for today’s diets was the industrial revolution. Mechanized food preparation has led to a nationwide prevalence of fast food, high salt content and sugary snacks. Paleo diets advocate cutting out processed food completely, as well as limiting salt and sugar intake. Daily menus also typically exclude dairy products, legumes, cereals, grains and potatoes — all products of developed agriculture.

Potential health benefits
Advocates of the paleo diet argue that humans have been genetically programmed to process particular kinds of food for millions of years. According to this theory, following the paleo diet will align your meals with your genetic requirements. Food that has been made widely available by most modern methods, including refined sugars and processed food, contribute to modern diseases like cancer. One study by the University of California suggests that the paleo diet may combat health complications related to diabetes, including high blood pressure and cholesterol. While limited data is available on the actual health benefits of the paleo diet, cutting down on nutrient poor, highly processed foods can help any diet. Hunter-gatherers exercised daily by necessity, which means following a prehistoric lifestyle can encourage healthy amounts of exercise.

Possible drawbacks
The paleo diet contains elements that are contrary to the Food and Drug Administration’s (FDA) daily nutritional recommendations. The FDA’s food pyramid has traditionally stressed the importance of whole grains as a primary food source, while the paleo diet generally recommends limiting grains. A diet that is low on grains can also lower the amount of fiber in your system, leaving you susceptible to gastrointestinal problems such as constipation. Cutting down on dairy can lower calcium levels, but dieters may be able to compensate with calcium-rich green vegetables. Eating too much fatty meat can also contribute to high cholesterol and weight gain, especially if you do not exercise regularly in conjunction with the paleo diet.

http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2012/02/10/eat-steak-instead-sugar-on-paleolithic-diet/
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Lol I had an Irish pal who was into the Paleo-diet and he seemed pretty healthy, if a little weird. I guess it has its benefits. Maybe more natural and wholesome than a lot of the food today. I love eating red meat, contrary to how many suggest its bad for you. Screw the FDA anyway.
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I want to start living exclusively on fish (caught by me) and green vegetables and fruit.
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There'd have been no one Paleolithic diet, Dragos. Though they were all healthier than today's foods. :P
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Hunter-gatherers were limited to the food within proximity and non-domesticated animals, so followers of the diet should try to eat locally grown produce and free-range meat.


The thing is they say that there is no "recipe" either...A hunter-gatherer was by nature an opportunistic feeder... He might have even challenged wild predators for their kills or preyed upon leftover carcasses...But the fact is that the wheat and the grain type of foods are totally out of that diet because man wasn't a cultivator yet...
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Hunter-gatherers were limited to the food within proximity and non-domesticated animals, so followers of the diet should try to eat locally grown produce and free-range meat.


The thing is they say that there is no "recipe" either...A hunter-gatherer was by nature an opportunistic feeder... He might have even challenged wild predators for their kills or preyed upon leftover carcasses...But the fact is that the wheat and the grain type of foods are totally out of that diet because man wasn't a cultivator yet...
Totally? They foraged wild grass seeds lol.

And the physiology might have changed since then like it has with lactose tolerance.
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Wild grass seeds are not sustainable...we don't have 4 stomachs and we don't invest in having huge intestines like the grazers needed to process such low calories diet...First of all I need MEAT!
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This books great.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&keywords=0340827912
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Yes that would be a great choice...I was considering about buying Manuals about botany, edible plants, medicinal herbs, edible mushrooms and all of those things...those are the first i need to learn.
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I do edible mushrooms.

And if you go down to the sea, if the water is clean, you can gather seaweeds. All of Britain's seaweeds are safe to eat except the sea sorrels that can make people mildly ill.
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My Dad knows them by sight, i don't really know how he learned them...I sometimes go with him and pick mushrooms but know for certain only 2 types, i never took the chance into picking others that i was uncertain of...until now i ate all what we picked and never had any problem.
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Here boletes are usually safe, though there's a few other kinds are unmistakable, at least they can't be confused with poisonous ones anyway. I want to try a giant puffball.
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I try to eat some kind of paleo diet as often as I can and I believe that it is the healthiest choice. I have a hard time leaving out milk products tho'.
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have a hard time leaving out milk products tho'

I have no problem in ditching certain foods, for example I gave up pork a long time ago, I just couldn't stand all that fat meat...I love milk and dairy products, but i could give up on it really easy if I want, all i need is getting on my own for a while, where no one would impose a general menu upon me...One summer i ate mainly fruit, vegetables and light meat, until i disturbed my stomach and got some sort of Gastritis and had to eat normal again.
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I don't eat grains, I believe there is a plethora of good reasons not to. They mostly come in processed junk that's devoid of any useful nutrition, too. I make my own food which mainly includes meat, vegetables/fruit and eggs. Dairy is a necessary condiment for me as an athlete, though I refuse to drink shop milk, more along the lines of whey protein, yogurt and cream. (yes, people are insanely protective of the idea that saturated fat is the killer, probably because they've tried to eat accordingly and considered it a "guilty pleasure" for all their lives and just aren't willing to accept that it's all been in vain, but I can't be bothered trying to change their minds, once you know some very basic biochemistry you realise how inherently stupid the whole theory is - but you may as well begin by watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4 )
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"cholesterol" and "heart disease" are not the reasons i don't eat pork...but I just can't stand the taste of really fatty foods, and also they go hard on my stomach, as the first sign were skin rashes and eruptions around the belly. Fish Meat is best, or farm grown chicken and beef, not industrial processed ones...Chickens are dirty animals, but at least they don't wallow in their own turds.
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Jul 9 2012, 11:37 PM
I don't eat grains, I believe there is a plethora of good reasons not to. They mostly come in processed junk that's devoid of any useful nutrition, too.
Brown rice is good for you, though.
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Jul 9 2012, 11:49 PM
"cholesterol" and "heart disease" are not the reasons i don't eat pork...but I just can't stand the taste of really fatty foods, and also they go hard on my stomach, as the first sign were skin rashes and eruptions around the belly. Fish Meat is best, or farm grown chicken and beef, not industrial processed ones...Chickens are dirty animals, but at least they don't wallow in their own turds.
I eat pork all the time.

I like actually eating and chewing on the fat at the side of steaks.

Though I'm still rather skinny, only 150lbs. I'm just one of those people who doesn't put on fat easily for some reason, same for my ancestors.

I tried following a special lean low carb diet but it wasn't for me anyway since I was skinny. It was coupled with a workout program that I used mostly for developing lean muscle but is mostly used by fat people to lose weight it seems, p90x. Even when I don't work out much or stick to a diet, I'm pretty much the same. High metabolism I guess.
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Even when i feel the consistency of fat in rather non-fatty meat like chicken or beef i get the instant response to throw up...I can't stand it.
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I don't eat grains, I believe there is a plethora of good reasons not to. They mostly come in processed junk that's devoid of any useful nutrition, too. I make my own food which mainly includes meat, vegetables/fruit and eggs. Dairy is a necessary condiment for me as an athlete, though I refuse to drink shop milk, more along the lines of whey protein, yogurt and cream. (yes, people are insanely protective of the idea that saturated fat is the killer, probably because they've tried to eat accordingly and considered it a "guilty pleasure" for all their lives and just aren't willing to accept that it's all been in vain, but I can't be bothered trying to change their minds, once you know some very basic biochemistry you realise how inherently stupid the whole theory is - but you may as well begin by watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8WA5wcaHp4 )
My diet is very similar to yours (minus fruits which I think contain too much fructose I eat berries from time to time instead) and I also work out a lot. I also don't avoid saturated fat.

In Sweden this type of diet is called Low Carb High Fat (LCHF). It's very similar to the Atkins diet.
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