Is McDonald, Eurogenes, or DNA Tribes the most accurate?

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Is McDonald, Eurogenes, or DNA Tribes the most accurate?
Topic Started: Jul 5 2012, 03:59 AM (902 Views)
~~7eleven~~	Jul 5 2012, 03:59 AM Post #1
Senior Member Posts: 1,396 Group: Banned Member #1,372 Joined: Dec 11, 2010 Gender: Male Ancestry: European Politics: Center	Which do you think is the most accurate McDonald, Eurogenes, or DNA Tribes?



Curious2know	Jul 5 2012, 04:25 AM Post #2
Full Member Posts: 619 Group: Members Member #310 Joined: Apr 4, 2009 Gender: Male	You have to take each of them into consideration and compare. Usually, they all agree on the basics. However, admixture results may vary sligthly, depending on the populations and program used.



~~Semitic Duwa~~	Jul 5 2012, 11:44 AM Post #3
Troll Edition™ Posts: 964 Group: Banned Member #921 Joined: Jun 21, 2010 Gender: Male Ancestry: Mixed Politics: Apolitical	It depends, I think Mcdonald is great for Asian, American, European and Middle Eastern populations.... But when it comes to actual African ancestry, his test produces weird results. In general, Mcdonald is more coherent with actual data. Other projects such as Eurogenes/Dodecad/Harappa are more hypothetical in their analysis of allele components but can still reveal interesting things. These components shouldn't be taken too seriously though, unless they coincide with other people's alleles. Finally, DNA Tribes is fun but its limited use of SNPs kind of nails it.
	"I know that elections must be limited only to those who understand that the Arabs are the deadly enemy of the Jewish state, who would bring on us a slow Auschwitz - not with gas, but with knives and hatchets." -Meir Kahane


Sampr	Jul 5 2012, 05:45 PM Post #4
Senior Member Posts: 1,591 Group: Members Member #119 Joined: Dec 1, 2008 Ancestry: Multi-racial	Of the three I choose McDonald



AnthroThinker	Jul 5 2012, 06:10 PM Post #5
New Member Posts: 13 Group: Members Member #335 Joined: Apr 19, 2009 Gender: Male Ancestry: European Religion: Spiritual Politics: Right	None of them are very good IMO. I would probably go with Eurogenes. DNA Tribes from what I've seen is awful.



FairyPrincess	Jan 31 2013, 10:24 PM Post #6
rare mtdna is mine: U2e1a Posts: 3,845 Group: Members Member #4,154 Joined: Nov 6, 2012 Gender: Female Politics: Center-Right	I haven't tried DNA Tribes yet, but I will soon. I'm pretty satisfied with my McDonald results, but overall I think I definitely prefer Eurogenes. I think they have given me the most accurate results so far.
	You are the flower from the Levant, that arose in the cold Northwestern snow. -quote from a friend.


Angenwit	Feb 1 2013, 01:08 AM Post #7
Junior Member Posts: 68 Group: Members Member #4,527 Joined: Jan 8, 2013 Gender: Male Ancestry: Northern European Religion: None Politics: Independent	Eurogenes seems to be accurate a lot of the time. McDonald is also accurate (although a different type of analysis for the most part) although he lacks certain reference populations - making it inaccurate for some people. DNA tribes placed me as equally likely to be Irish or Belarusian...
	Y-DNA: I1* Mt-DNA: U5a1b4 Father's Mt-DNA: J1c8 Grandfather's Mt-DNA: H1b


Curious2know	Feb 1 2013, 01:08 AM Post #8
Full Member Posts: 619 Group: Members Member #310 Joined: Apr 4, 2009 Gender: Male	FairyPrincess Jan 31 2013, 10:24 PM I haven't tried DNA Tribes yet, but I will soon. I'm pretty satisfied with my McDonald results, but overall I think I definitely prefer Eurogenes. I think they have given me the most accurate results so far. FairyPrincess, I'm curious to know what your Askenazi % is on Eurogenes JTest. Have you tried that one? Since your ancestral combination does resemble that of many AJs, I was wondering how much "AJ" you would score there. (Never mind, I just saw you Eurogenes post). Edited by Curious2know, Feb 1 2013, 01:12 AM.



FairyPrincess	Feb 1 2013, 07:21 AM Post #9
rare mtdna is mine: U2e1a Posts: 3,845 Group: Members Member #4,154 Joined: Nov 6, 2012 Gender: Female Politics: Center-Right	Curious2know Feb 1 2013, 01:08 AM FairyPrincess Jan 31 2013, 10:24 PM I haven't tried DNA Tribes yet, but I will soon. I'm pretty satisfied with my McDonald results, but overall I think I definitely prefer Eurogenes. I think they have given me the most accurate results so far. FairyPrincess, I'm curious to know what your Askenazi % is on Eurogenes JTest. Have you tried that one? Since your ancestral combination does resemble that of many AJs, I was wondering how much "AJ" you would score there. (Never mind, I just saw you Eurogenes post). 6.78%.
	You are the flower from the Levant, that arose in the cold Northwestern snow. -quote from a friend.


Curious2know	Feb 1 2013, 08:27 AM Post #10
Full Member Posts: 619 Group: Members Member #310 Joined: Apr 4, 2009 Gender: Male	6.78%.[/quote] Mine was 7.89%, but I do not have any AJ ancestry, nor recent ancestry from the ME. Still, it seems my % is higher than average for a non-Jewish person. By the way, I believe DNA Tribes's SNP Analysis is among the most detailed and accurate today, especially when it comes to biogeographical percentages. 23andMe is still having problems adjusting its new AC feature, some wrinkles to iron out. McDonald is good, but I also find Eurogenes and Dodecad to be very good. Today, I would say DNA Tribes reputation has increased. Edited by Curious2know, Feb 1 2013, 08:33 AM.



angels4me	Feb 1 2013, 02:14 PM Post #11
Full Member Posts: 290 Group: Members Member #4,179 Joined: Nov 10, 2012 Ancestry: Multi-racial	I'm a multigenerationally admixed african American and McDonald ran my case twice because I questioned the results. My Euro as Lithuanian, and my African as Yoruba, and Maya. When he hand calculated me, my Euro was on the line between Eastern and Western Europe, so he put me into Irish. My dad's was Russian Jewish, and my mom was British. Not that it's impossible for my dad to have some Eastern European background that would put me on the line, it never came up in any other test that way for him or me. Then he also gave me percentages of Mozabite and Uyghur, and Maya. I think my admixture caused overlapping, incorrect results. I think the HarappaWorld and Africa9 were more accurate for me.



Angenwit	Feb 1 2013, 07:32 PM Post #12
Junior Member Posts: 68 Group: Members Member #4,527 Joined: Jan 8, 2013 Gender: Male Ancestry: Northern European Religion: None Politics: Independent	Curious2know Feb 1 2013, 08:27 AM 6.78% Mine was 7.89%, but I do not have any AJ ancestry, nor recent ancestry from the ME. Still, it seems my % is higher than average for a non-Jewish person. By the way, I believe DNA Tribes's SNP Analysis is among the most detailed and accurate today, especially when it comes to biogeographical percentages. 23andMe is still having problems adjusting its new AC feature, some wrinkles to iron out. McDonald is good, but I also find Eurogenes and Dodecad to be very good. Today, I would say DNA Tribes reputation has increased. Has it improved over the last year? When i took it it was pretty useless - The GEDmatch tools are free (provided you have 23&me/FTDNA data already) and they (for the most part) are much better. I can't take DNA Tribes seriously to be honest, but if they have improved that is good. Edited by Angenwit, Feb 1 2013, 07:32 PM.
	Y-DNA: I1* Mt-DNA: U5a1b4 Father's Mt-DNA: J1c8 Grandfather's Mt-DNA: H1b


Curious2know	Feb 1 2013, 08:25 PM Post #13
Full Member Posts: 619 Group: Members Member #310 Joined: Apr 4, 2009 Gender: Male	I'm only referring to DNA Tribes' SNP Analysis based on your 23andMe raw data. I think they have improved and their ancestral percentages seem to be fine. I don't think their STR test was accurate or at least not as accurate. Gedmatch is also good and you have different options.



FairyPrincess	Feb 1 2013, 09:35 PM Post #14
rare mtdna is mine: U2e1a Posts: 3,845 Group: Members Member #4,154 Joined: Nov 6, 2012 Gender: Female Politics: Center-Right	Curious2know Feb 1 2013, 08:27 AM 6.78%. Mine was 7.89%, but I do not have any AJ ancestry, nor recent ancestry from the ME. Still, it seems my % is higher than average for a non-Jewish person. By the way, I believe DNA Tribes's SNP Analysis is among the most detailed and accurate today, especially when it comes to biogeographical percentages. 23andMe is still having problems adjusting its new AC feature, some wrinkles to iron out. McDonald is good, but I also find Eurogenes and Dodecad to be very good. Today, I would say DNA Tribes reputation has increased.[/quote]I'm a little confused. For a while I thought my mother's father's mother's father was full Ashkenazi, because of the last name. Plus, with that percentage it made sense. But it may not be an Ashkenazi name, just regular German. But then I was also told that it was just noise due to my half NW Euro half Levantine ancestry.
	You are the flower from the Levant, that arose in the cold Northwestern snow. -quote from a friend.


Bilbo	Feb 2 2013, 02:42 AM Post #15
Advanced Member Posts: 3,206 Group: Members Member #1,284 Joined: Nov 10, 2010 Gender: Male Ancestry: European Religion: None	Curious2know Feb 1 2013, 08:25 PM I'm only referring to DNA Tribes' SNP Analysis based on your 23andMe raw data. I think they have improved and their ancestral percentages seem to be fine. I don't think their STR test was accurate or at least not as accurate. Gedmatch is also good and you have different options. When did DNA Tribes improve? I did the 23andMe transfer about a year ago and I got some weird results.



FairyPrincess	Feb 2 2013, 02:49 AM Post #16
rare mtdna is mine: U2e1a Posts: 3,845 Group: Members Member #4,154 Joined: Nov 6, 2012 Gender: Female Politics: Center-Right	Bilbo Feb 2 2013, 02:42 AM Curious2know Feb 1 2013, 08:25 PM I'm only referring to DNA Tribes' SNP Analysis based on your 23andMe raw data. I think they have improved and their ancestral percentages seem to be fine. I don't think their STR test was accurate or at least not as accurate. Gedmatch is also good and you have different options. When did DNA Tribes improve? I did the 23andMe transfer about a year ago and I got some weird results. I heard they improved a few months ago, Bilbo. I'm going to try the 23andme transfer soon myself. Edited by FairyPrincess, Feb 2 2013, 05:48 AM.
	You are the flower from the Levant, that arose in the cold Northwestern snow. -quote from a friend.


Bilbo	Feb 2 2013, 03:19 AM Post #17
Advanced Member Posts: 3,206 Group: Members Member #1,284 Joined: Nov 10, 2010 Gender: Male Ancestry: European Religion: None	FairyPrincess Feb 2 2013, 02:49 AM Bilbo Feb 2 2013, 02:42 AM Curious2know Feb 1 2013, 08:25 PM I'm only referring to DNA Tribes' SNP Analysis based on your 23andMe raw data. I think they have improved and their ancestral percentages seem to be fine. I don't think their STR test was accurate or at least not as accurate. Gedmatch is also good and you have different options. When did DNA Tribes improve? I did the 23andMe transfer about a year ago and I got some weird results. I heard they improved a few montha ago, Bilbo. I'm going to try the 23andme transfer soon myself. Thanks for the info. I'll look into it. FairyPrincess Feb 1 2013, 09:35 PM I'm a little confused. For a while I thought my mother's father's mother's father was full Ashkenazi, because of the last name. Plus, with that percentage it made sense. But it may not be an Ashkenazi name, just regular German. But then I was also told that it was just noise due to my half NW Euro half Levantine ancestry. Most Ashkenazi Jewish last names are really just adoptions or modifications of European last names. For instance, last names that end with man are usually Jewish and those that end with mann are most likely German. Same with berg and burg. By the way, it looks like you have an Ashkenazi cousin on Ancestry Finder. So you may be right about your great-great-grandfather. Edited by Bilbo, Feb 2 2013, 03:30 AM.



FairyPrincess	Feb 2 2013, 06:01 AM Post #18
rare mtdna is mine: U2e1a Posts: 3,845 Group: Members Member #4,154 Joined: Nov 6, 2012 Gender: Female Politics: Center-Right	Bilbo Feb 2 2013, 03:19 AM FairyPrincess Feb 2 2013, 02:49 AM Bilbo Feb 2 2013, 02:42 AM Quoting limited to 3 levels deep I heard they improved a few montha ago, Bilbo. I'm going to try the 23andme transfer soon myself. Thanks for the info. I'll look into it. FairyPrincess Feb 1 2013, 09:35 PM I'm a little confused. For a while I thought my mother's father's mother's father was full Ashkenazi, because of the last name. Plus, with that percentage it made sense. But it may not be an Ashkenazi name, just regular German. But then I was also told that it was just noise due to my half NW Euro half Levantine ancestry. Most Ashkenazi Jewish last names are really just adoptions or modifications of European last names. For instance, last names that end with man are usually Jewish and those that end with mann are most likely German. Same with berg and burg. By the way, it looks like you have an Ashkenazi cousin on Ancestry Finder. So you may be right about your great-great-grandfather. I looked before and I didn't see any Ashkenazi cousins, nor did any of my other friends on 23andme. So, maybe it's new. 23andme also has me as 0.0% Declared Undeclared Jewish.
	You are the flower from the Levant, that arose in the cold Northwestern snow. -quote from a friend.


Bilbo	Feb 2 2013, 06:12 AM Post #19
Advanced Member Posts: 3,206 Group: Members Member #1,284 Joined: Nov 10, 2010 Gender: Male Ancestry: European Religion: None	FairyPrincess Feb 2 2013, 06:01 AM I looked before and I didn't see any Ashkenazi cousins, nor did any of my other friends on 23andme. So, maybe it's new. 23andme also has me as 0.0% Declared Undeclared Jewish. Lower the number of grandparents and minimum segment size and tick off the box that says "Include matches primarily from US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand & South Africa." It's on your 3rd chromosome.



FairyPrincess	Feb 2 2013, 06:32 AM Post #20
rare mtdna is mine: U2e1a Posts: 3,845 Group: Members Member #4,154 Joined: Nov 6, 2012 Gender: Female Politics: Center-Right	Bilbo Feb 2 2013, 06:12 AM FairyPrincess Feb 2 2013, 06:01 AM I looked before and I didn't see any Ashkenazi cousins, nor did any of my other friends on 23andme. So, maybe it's new. 23andme also has me as 0.0% Declared Undeclared Jewish. Lower the number of grandparents and minimum segment size and tick off the box that says "Include matches primarily from US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand & South Africa." It's on your 3rd chromosome. I still can't find it. I remember seeing someone on there before with an Ashkenazi last name. But I thought it was her husband's last name or something because her last name was hyphenated and she had all her ancestry listed as Irish.
	You are the flower from the Levant, that arose in the cold Northwestern snow. -quote from a friend.


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