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The Wild Woman of Abkhazia
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Perhaps the best documented (and most intriguing) case of a hominid with both human and ape-like characteristics that was captured in the wild and lived for many years amongst humans is that of Zana. And the most astonishing and significant aspect of her life was that she inter-bred with humans!
The precise details of her capture are not fully known, but due to the fact that there were no reported severe injuries or resultant disabilities likely indicates that a mode of capture such as a baited snare or covered-pit trap were employed either by chance or design that led to her captivity. Zana was captured in the present day country of Abkhazia, on the eastern shore of the Black Sea along the Caucasus Mountain range. In the previous century, Abkhazia was part of the Soviet Union. Beginning the 1960s, Russian scientists Boris Porshnev and Alexander Mashkovtev researched Zana's story. Later researchers included Dmitri Bayanov and Igor Bourtsev (presently active). In Central Asia, creatures that resemble the American Bigfoot or Sasquatch are sometimes referred to as Almas or by the Russian plural, Almasty.

After her capture (in the mid 1800s), Zana was presented to the prince of the region, D.M. Achba, who later gave charge of her to one of his vassals, named Chelokua. Ultimately she was passed on to a nobleman named Edgi Genaba, when he visited the area. Genaba brought her back to his home in the village of T'khina.

Zana's story was confirmed by interviews of over 100 villagers and residents of her homeland. They described her as having dark, greyish-black skin, bare on the face, but elsewhere she was covered in reddish-black hair. The hair on her head was a bit darker and formed a thick, tousled mane that hung down her back. Her face had a sloping forehead, prominent brows and cheekbones and massive jaws . Her nose was broad and flat, her eyes were reddish and she had large, strong white teeth. Her body was robust and muscular with well-developed breasts. She was tremendously strong, and also swift, able to even outrun a horse!

Although she walked and ran upright on two legs, her arms were proportionately long and her toes could be widely splayed, especially the big toes which she could move separately. She would climb trees to get fruit and nuts and could crack walnuts in her bare hands. Her appetite was tremendous, and she would eat any food the villagers offered her. She would pull down an entire wild grapevine from the tree to feast on the grapes. She also had a particular fondness for wine, and would often drink considerable amounts, after which she would relax in a swoon-like state.

At, first Zana was fierce and belligerent and was kept in shackles and chains. Food was thrown to her from a distance. After a while she became calmer when approached, and then she was moved to an enclosure with a wattled fence, on one side of which was a building with an awning. Zana dug a shallow hole underneath the awning, where she slept. Her favored position for sleep and rest was to crouch on her knees and elbows with her hands clasped behind her head. Zana spent about three years inside the enclosure with little contact, but gradually became more cooperative and docile. She began to show signs of intelligence and the ability to respond to direction. Eventually, her captor, Edgi Genaba became confident enough in her to allow her to roam the countryside freely.
Zana seemed to accept her life among the villagers. She showed an interest in taking part in human activities and Edgi taught her to grind flour from grain, to fetch firewood and water and carry sacks of flour to and from the water-powered mill in the village. (Zana could easily pick up a full sack of flour with one hand.)She would even pull Genaba's boots off at night. Zana preferred her own natural coat of hair to manmade clothing. Although given dresses to wear, they would soon become torn from her vigorous activities. Later on she would tolerate the wearing of a loincloth. Zana had a favorite activity; rapping stones together and splitting them.

Zana preferred the colder weather and seemed to tolerate the winter chill with no discomfort. On warm summer days she enjoyed cooling off in the ponds with the domestic buffalo. Zana would swim in the Molkva river all year round, even in winter and in the raging spring floods. She spent most of her time outdoors but occasionally visited houses when invited indoors.

The villagers of T'khina overall showed a tolerance and acceptance of Zana. She could react angrily if provoked, barring her teeth in warning, and even biting if severely provoked . She could wield large sticks to protect herself from dogs. Her appearance was somewhat frightening and many people were wary of her and would only interact with her when she was in a gentle mood. Occasionally she would laugh spontaneously, showing her huge, very white teeth. She apparently both feared and respected Edgi Genaba, who could discipline her by scolding or shouting when she did something he considered inappropriate. Although she could understand requests and directions, Zana seemed unable to articulate speech and was not recorded to have spoken a single word.

But the most remarkable and important feature of Zana's interaction with the villagers was that on at least six occasions, she conceived children, perhaps by a few different men. Amazingly. the four children who survived infancy grew to adulthood and were intelligent, articulate in speech and had other talents as well. One becoming an accomplished pianist.) The first two children died shortly after childbirth, apparently following Zana's having washed them in a cold-water
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The next four offspring, two girls and two boys, were then taken by the village women and raised as normal children. The babies were said to have looked just like human infants, only slightly smaller. As they matured, their appearance was more like their father's. Although their skin was somewhat dark, and their facial structures with elements in common similar to those of our fossil ancestors, they lacked the covering of body hair that their mother had. They were physically strong and able to engage in work and social activities.

The oldest son was Dzhanda, the youngest, Khwit. The older girl was Kodzanar and the second, Gamassa. All of them had children of their own, and their descendants are dispersed across Abkhazia. In the official census their last name was listed as Sabekia, although the two youngest, Khwit and Gamassa were raised by Edgi Genaba's wife. (It was rumored that Genaba himself fathered those children). Their birthrates are listed as: Dzhanda; 1878, Kodzanar; 1880, Gamassa; 1882 and Kwhit; unknown.

Of the four offspring, Khwit was perhaps the most commented on in the villagers remembrances. He was said to often be difficult to deal with and quick to anger. He lost his right hand in one of the many fights he was engaged in, but was still strong and fit enough to climb trees and work on the collective farm. It is significant in that, a decade after his death in 1954, his body was exhumed and the skull removed and sent to Russia for scientific research. The skull with it's large facial span, pronounced brow ridges, large teeth and jaws seems to evidence the characteristics of proto-human ancestors blended with modern man. link to image of Khwit's skull) DNA testing indicated no presence of known Neanderthal genetic sequence. Another burial adjacent to that of Kwhit was found, and the skull, significantly smaller and perhaps that of a child, also had features not in common with the Caucasoid types of the regions. DNA testing has indicated that Kwit and the smaller individual, a female were related.(Result of the initial DNA tests were released in1987. Additional tests have been run as recently as 2006.

In his field research interviewing the residents of Abkhazia, Porshnev met several of Zana's grandchildren. He remarked that he was immediately impressed by
their dark skin and non-Caucasoid looks. One of the grandchildren, Shalikula was exceptionally strong, and could pick up a grown man sitting in a chair by grasping and lifting the chair with his jaws and teeth! Two other grandchildren, Chalikoua and Taia, were also reported to have the same general appearance and notably robust jaw muscles and bone structure.

Searches for the remains of Zana herself have not had results. Currently, since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, socio-ethnic conflicts have made further research difficult and risky. Abkhazia is no longer part of the Soviet Union, and travel within the country is restricted. An as with all scientific endeavors, the financial backing required can be very difficult to procure, from either government or private sources. In researching this article I found the official website of Igor Bourtsev and Dmitri Bayanov who are in the forefront of research on hominology in Russia today. (This link to their website). http://hominology.narod.ru./eng.htm] They have established a fund for furthering scientific searches and expeditions on cryptic hominids worldwide, named the Cryptosphere Fund.


http://voices.yahoo.com/captured-bigfoot-researched-russian-scientists-893181.html
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According to Gregory Forth this folkloric motif of traing a wild woman with drink, and her subsequently bearing her captors a part human child, is widely spread as far as Indonesia in nearly the exact form.
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It is probably because there is no any other way of doing that in reality, folklore or not...How can you tame a "wild woman" that will break you and your dick in half with one hand?...even with modern women, it's so much easier to get into bed with them, if they are boozed up they stop being inhibited and leave away any social anxiety or fear.
Edited by Ferox, May 15 2012, 05:11 PM.
"The savage lives within himself while social man lives outside himself and can only live in the opinion of others, so that he seems to receive the feeling of his own existence only from the judgement of others concerning him." Jean Jacques Rousseau
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oogah oogah oogah oogah oogah edit after request oogah oogah oogah oogah oogah
Edited by Keksalarm, May 15 2012, 09:11 PM.
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I don't understand your response
"The savage lives within himself while social man lives outside himself and can only live in the opinion of others, so that he seems to receive the feeling of his own existence only from the judgement of others concerning him." Jean Jacques Rousseau
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This is Khwit's skull which supposedly exhibits both modern and archaic traits:

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Photo of Khwit:

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I admit my joke was a little lame.
Your quesion: How can you tame a "wild woman" that will break you and your dick in half with one hand?
My answer: empathy!

hahahahaha :rotfl2:
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That fact that you could understand how she feels and act accordingly, doesn't mean that if you act peaceful and friendly, the "wild woman" will still not break your dick.
"The savage lives within himself while social man lives outside himself and can only live in the opinion of others, so that he seems to receive the feeling of his own existence only from the judgement of others concerning him." Jean Jacques Rousseau
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Well, who knows? Empathy was just a suggestion! And a joke!
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May 15 2012, 05:19 PM
This is Khwit's skull which supposedly exhibits both modern and archaic traits:

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It looks sapiens to me, and I think the skull was identified as such by Grover Krantz, and the almas don't seem to be Homo as they lack complex tool industries and fire so its unlikely there'd be human-almas hybrids.
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Here is an article that states the exact opposite of this event, where a human female was impregnated by some unknown hominid...but that guy just seems to suffer from gigantism and microcephaly

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh3dCM7-mrI[/youtube]

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Incredibly weird video from China. The footage is from Sichuan Province, China. Although it is all in Chinese, I am familiar with this story.

The boy’s mother said that she was kidnapped by a Yeren, the Chinese wildman or Bigfoot which probably does exist in China, and raped repeatedly, then abandoned. She went back to her village and gave birth to this son nine months later. He never learned to speak any language, but he did obtain passive language competence, that is, he could understand what was said to him. He died at age 33. I don’t know much else about the case.

Skeptics are insisting that he is microencephalic, but that could not be, as such persons are small in stature. I’m sure there has never been a microencephalic anywhere near this tall. They are also saying that his mother was ashamed of giving birth to a retarded kid, so she made up the story about being raped by a Yeren.

He does somewhat look like a Bigfoot-human crossbreed. His head and jaw look funny and somewhat ape-like. His arms seem to be extremely long. His head sits right on top of his shoulders, and he seems to have no neck. His shoulders are very wide.When he sits, he just plops his ass right down.

The American Indians of the NW said that Bigfoots would sometimes kidnap young women and take them away. The women would sometimes return later. At times they would be pregnant. The offspring were viable, but they were not quite right. Often they had very long, gangly arms. Some were so wild that they could never be tamed properly.

There have been 12 documented cases of human-yeti/Almas/Yeren breeding in the 20th century from Russia and China. I don’t have any more details on these cases.

There is a famous case from Abkhazia of an Almas named Zana who was captured, tamed, and subsequently bred with a local man and had four children by him.

One son was named Kwit. He was extremely strong; he could lift up a chair with a man sitting in it with his teeth! Kwit was normal, except he was extremely strong and had a very quick temper. He died, and his grave was excavated. His skull had some odd features, and aspects of it were outside the human range. Nevertheless, some experts pronounded it fully Homo sapiens. Kwit’s DNA has been tested, and it came back 100% Homo sapiens, which is odd once again. The grave of the mother, Zana, was never able to be located.

The Almas are the most civilized of the Bigfoot types. They reside in the Caucasus and have long history of interactions with humans. They have long hair on their heads that extends down to the middle of their backs. The females have long, droopy breasts that are hairless. Their faces are more human and less apelike than the American Bigfoots. They sometimes use clothing which they steal from the local humans, and have even used tools such as clubs. For the most part, they reside in caves.

However, they are covered with hair. Russian investigators have long thought that Almas were relict Neandertals.

Bigfoot DNA is currently being sequenced. Results have come back “Homo, but not human.” If these yeti types really are in the human line, then possibly they could indeed breed with humans, but the results would be less than ideal from a human point of view.


http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2011/04/28/human-bigfoot-hybrid-from-china/
Edited by Ferox, May 15 2012, 05:37 PM.
"The savage lives within himself while social man lives outside himself and can only live in the opinion of others, so that he seems to receive the feeling of his own existence only from the judgement of others concerning him." Jean Jacques Rousseau
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May 15 2012, 05:30 PM
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May 15 2012, 05:19 PM
This is Khwit's skull which supposedly exhibits both modern and archaic traits:

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It looks sapiens to me, and I think the skull was identified as such by Grover Krantz, and the almas don't seem to be Homo as they lack complex tool industries and fire so its unlikely there'd be human-almas hybrids.
I think he may be a mulatto, there are people of African descent in Abkhazia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abkhazians_of_African_descent

Anyhow, I found this photo of Zana, can't be sure if it's authentic (doubt it), but she certainly doesn't look human to me:

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she looks like Monalisa LOL
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This is not a photo but a drawing. In the late 19th century, cameras were as much used in Abkhazia as computers were.

And I don't think Khwit looks that strange at all. He looks like a Quarteron, he displays mostly Caucasoid West Asian features, with Negroid pigmentation, lips and hair. Definitely not an ape-human hybrid.

Most likely Zana was an African woman lost in Abkhazia. Locals, who have never seen an African, thought she is some strange kind of creature and started to exaggarate about her appearance, psychal and mental qualities making a myth about her.
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i dont know... perhaps they trained him to act like that?
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His skull (khwit's) is very human like...there is no upper prognathism and no thick brow ridge, the jaws ar kind of normal, or nothing is more excessive than it could be in a strong jawed human, and it is neither a square, short, rectangular orbit shaped skull like a Cro-Magnon's...the cheek bones are very well developed and uncommon and the forehead is very low.

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Most likely Zana was an African woman lost in Abkhazia. Locals, who have never seen an African, thought she is some strange kind of creature and started to exaggarate about her appearance, psychal and mental qualities making a myth about her.

She was covered in hair and had incredible strength, how do you explain that?
Edited by Ferox, May 15 2012, 06:06 PM.
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yes average your post was very useful
"The savage lives within himself while social man lives outside himself and can only live in the opinion of others, so that he seems to receive the feeling of his own existence only from the judgement of others concerning him." Jean Jacques Rousseau
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It is most likely just a huge exaggeration of a negroid or perhaps mixed race woman who was somehow lost as a child but managed to survive in the wild. Many people thought Africans look like monkeys back then. Perhaps she also suffered from hirsituism, which would explain being more hairy. Actually, it is not thaaaat uncommon in the caucasus region. These things explain that pretty well.

The Chinese case is kind of obvious but people love to tell stories and add additional details ;)
If you take anything in this forum overly serious, you should really go and see a doctor.
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