| Linear Ware Culture | |
|---|---|
| Topic Started: Mar 2 2012, 02:37 PM (705 Views) | |
| Crimson Guard | Mar 2 2012, 02:37 PM Post #1 |
![]()
Spirit of Vengeance
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() -Encyclopedia of Indo-European cultureBy J. P. Mallory Edited by Crimson Guard, Mar 2 2012, 02:37 PM.
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
| |
![]() |
|
|
|
Mar 2 2012, 04:31 PM Post #2 |
|
Banned
![]() ![]()
|
"The population of the Linear Ware culture belonged to the "gracile" Mediterranean type..." I almost explode, when I hear this misleading claptrap over and over again. It confused me for years. Yes, the build of their cranium may have been gracile, but their body build was very stocky and robust, with estimated BMI values over 24 kg/m2. When someone comes with this again, he should explicitly state, what he means under the term "gracile"!
|
![]() |
|
| Crimson Guard | Mar 2 2012, 05:05 PM Post #3 |
![]()
Spirit of Vengeance
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
So what evidence is that and what is the point exactly? That they were gracile skulled fat people?! The evidence is that they were Gracile Mediterranean & it goes quite well with this other information: Anthropological types of Corded Ware and Yamna cultures
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2006/05/anthropological-types-of-corded-ware.html NEOLITHIC FARMERS ![]() http://racialreality.110mb.com/neolithic.html ![]() http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/940437/1/#new |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
| |
![]() |
|
| Infallible | Mar 12 2012, 07:16 AM Post #4 |
|
Full Member
![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Very interesting info, it remided me of this - not sure if it ties into it, but I think this may have been posted on anthroscape a while ago... A Lost European Culture, Pulled From Obscurity Before the glory that was Greece and Rome, even before the first cities of Mesopotamia or temples along the Nile, there lived in the Lower Danube Valley and the Balkan foothills people who were ahead of their time in art, technology and long-distance trade. For 1,500 years, starting earlier than 5000 B.C., they farmed and built sizable towns, a few with as many as 2,000 dwellings. They mastered large-scale copper smelting, the new technology of the age. Their graves held an impressive array of exquisite headdresses and necklaces and, in one cemetery, the earliest major assemblage of gold artifacts to be found anywhere in the world. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/01/science/01arch.html |
![]() |
|
| Crimson Guard | May 4 2012, 12:41 PM Post #5 |
![]()
Spirit of Vengeance
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() --Encyclopedia of Indo-European culture By J. P. Mallory The Lengyel Culture is represented by the Atlanto-Mediterranean type according to Gimbutas: [blockquote]"The Lengyel physical type, the so-called 'Atlanto-Mediterranean'":[/blockquote] ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() -The Goddesses and Gods of Old Europe, 6500-3500 B.C.: Myths and Cult Images By Marija Gimbutas |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
| |
![]() |
|
| Angrals | May 4 2012, 12:46 PM Post #6 |
![]()
The Children of Māda
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
I thought this was specifically only to do with the Slavs and Indo-Iranians. |
![]() Eurogenes K13: North European 7.25% Mediterranean 15.96% South Asian 6.79% Southwest Asian 9.82% Caucasus 29.97% West Central Asian 28.20% | |
![]() |
|
| faintsmile1992 | May 4 2012, 01:08 PM Post #7 |
![]()
A cat of a different coat
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Archaeological cultures unassociated with writing can't usually be easily identified with a language family. Though people try, they're always someone's best guesses. At least some archaelogical cultures would have involved people speaking many languages, like the protohistoric Yue people in China probably weren't linguistically or ethnically homogenous because their cultural traits are shared between the people belonging to very different language families in the same and neighbouring regions today. |
|
Scientist - My findings are pointless when taken out of context. Media - Scientist claims "findings are pointless" ![]()
| |
![]() |
|
| Nam | May 4 2012, 01:57 PM Post #8 |
![]()
Senior Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
The levantine E and J has to do with southern european paleolithic, and the G and likely mongoloid N,D,Q have to do with european neolithic. It is interesting to note that modern G has the greatest concentration around China or mongoloid areas, and Islam, turkic-mongolic territory, they seemed to be somehow connected to eastern cultural ambient. Before the aparent middle eastern anthropological relationship, the eastern cultural relationship is rather more interesting.
Edited by Nam, May 4 2012, 02:02 PM.
|
FucЖeveriwon![]() ..maybe like sun too, as if these tiny beings loved sunlight so much, they imitated the radiating sun, created their own architecture of sun worship. | |
![]() |
|
| Crimson Guard | Jun 9 2012, 08:05 PM Post #9 |
![]()
Spirit of Vengeance
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() --Encyclopedia of Indo-European culture By J. P. Mallory |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
| |
![]() |
|
| marko | Jun 10 2012, 07:20 PM Post #10 |
|
Senior Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Interesting things. Thank you very much CG. Do u guys have any article or link which shows some studies for the 1st inhabitants of the Balkans. For example who where the dominant subtypes in Central Balkans and Adriatic, related to the cultures explained above? |
![]() |
|
| The Boss | Jun 10 2012, 07:22 PM Post #11 |
![]()
.
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/neolithic_europe_map.shtml |
|
Classification: Pontid-Alpine | |
![]() |
|
| Crimson Guard | Jun 22 2012, 12:34 AM Post #12 |
![]()
Spirit of Vengeance
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
Was reading through this Gimbutas book but its missing pages in the chapter so I just took some excerpts as I mainly interested in their cranial-morphological type.![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() .... ![]() ![]() -Bronze Age Cultures in Central and Eastern Europe By Marija Gimbutas |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
| |
![]() |
|
| Dewd | Jun 22 2012, 01:31 AM Post #13 |
![]()
Advanced Member
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
What's your opinion of Marija Gimbutas and her theory? |
![]() |
|
| Crimson Guard | Jun 22 2012, 02:07 AM Post #14 |
![]()
Spirit of Vengeance
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
|
I havent really taken the theory seriously as some parts of never seemed quite accurate and commonsensical to me. Overall the the Indo-European languages spread out from somewhere in Southern Europe or Black Sea/Pontic-Caspian steppe) or even Anatolia. And there distances arent that far apart from either either theory.![]() ![]() http://dienekes.110mb.com/articles/ieorigins/ But a overall I am more concerned with the number of propagandists and Nordicists of one variety or another mis use Gimbutas' theory to fit there agenda. Lawrence Angel gave this as the example of the Cappadocian & Danubian of Coon: "A small-faced Iranian-Mediterranean divergence approaching Coon's Cappadocian and Danubian types (D3: Athenian in Plate XL, q)." ![]() Edited by Crimson Guard, Jun 22 2012, 02:07 AM.
|
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
| |
![]() |
|
| 1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous) | |
| « Previous Topic · Physical Anthropology · Next Topic » |










-Encyclopedia of Indo-European culture





































































9:30 AM May 20