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was Nefertiti Black ?
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HAHAHA. She wasnt remotely Black or Nordid, those two like claiming the same things for obvious reasons. The thing with the Egyptians was that they colonized parts of Eastern Africa and then those mixed lands(ie Nubia) eventually rebelled and took Egypt for a short period before they themselves got pushed out. Certain Blacks claim Egypt for Culture, Theology, & Civilization and thus claim all European and Oriental Civilizations were descended from 'Blacks' or they use the term 'Africans' in a shady synonymous manner.

Egyptians wouldve had a small minority of local Aethiopids, even Aswanese are all over the south and some Sudanese and such.
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Yeah ,agreed
as u see the Mummy wich is suspected for the Neferiti body was a male and the face was completly unclear and fatally touched in the level of jaw ,the big question is :
isn't the nefertiti reconstruction a Propaganda ?
she is Not Black and Not semilar to Imane (the somali american model ) as the Afrocentrists claim it
Edited by samysamy25, Dec 9 2009, 07:49 PM.
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I remember a British curator talking about Nefertiti and saying how much she bore a resemblance to Audrey Hepburn. I'm sure Audrey Hepburn--with her birdlike bone-structure, swan-like neck and delicate features--will be dug up in 5,000 years and reconstructed to look like this:

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Why not? Ramses II had wispy red hair, fair skin and blue eyes. Yet, according to Afrocentrists, any reconstruction of this:

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...should look like this:

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Also, Nefertiti was celebrated for her great beauty, charm, intelligence and wit, which is clear evidence that she was not a negress. I mean, there has almost never been a negress who has ever displayed those characteristics. Period.
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Dec 9 2009, 09:19 PM
Also, Nefertiti was celebrated for her great beauty, charm, intelligence and wit, which is clear evidence that she was not a negress. I mean, there has almost never been a negress who has ever displayed those characteristics. Period.
Plus, she had a husband, that rules out her blackness automatically.
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LOL @Ezana. I disagree with Racial Awareness. There are many beautiful Black women and all shades in-between.
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She looks like Sopfia Loren in pictures A and B:


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She looks like Janet Jackson.
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thousands of years from now after the next catacysm some archeologist will find one of these buried somewhere in japan and he will be seriously puzzled.... :lol:
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The Ancient Egyptians were primarily Aethiopid with a small percentage of Middle Eastern mixed in from the North which gradually overwhelmed the Aethiopid influence over thousands of years until now it's pretty much gone. So, Neferiti was Black and based on the sculpture of her that was made by the Ancient Egyptians during her time, she looked a lot like the Somali model Iman:

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Pictures of Somali model Iman dressed as Nefertiti from her music video with Michael Jackson:


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The fact that the mummies of Ancient Egyptians had caucasoid features does not prove that they weren't Black since Aethiopids have caucasoid features. Do you think if anthropologists were to examine the mummies of the three models in this picture that they would classify any of them as Black, even though one of them is an Ethiopian model:


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Excellent argument Berserk. I don't see what the big deal is. That statue does look a lot like Iman.
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We've had this discussion before. Nefertiti doesn't look like Iman at all. She looks like Sophia Loren:

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Woow! Agreed Racial Reality !!
Nefertiti looks like Sophia Loren :) Not to an Aethiopiod women like janet jackson or Iman
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Yeah the fact that afro nuts look for the most caucasoid "black woman" available it´s also worth noting, are you trying to imply that most "aethiopid" ancient egyptians just happened to look like that heavily make up wearing almost entirely non black looking woman?

even when having an almost thinner nose than mine ( :lol: ) iman´s nose still retains some significative negroid characteristics, while nefertiti´s nose doesn´t look negroid at all.

I refer back to the japanese action figure, you guys are a joke....
Edited by Manu, Dec 10 2009, 03:30 PM.
"And you want to know what is the true and causal nature of the issue? it is simply that we have been tricked into accepting the foundations of our own slavery and we have ourselves built upon it our own prison; and nowadays we defend this self-inflicted yoke from anyone who tries to remove it from us and save us from our own folly."
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Wouldn't Iman (and Ethiopians/somalis in general) be classified craniologically as a variation of Caucasoids any way? And considering that Egypt is located higher in latitude, Nefertiti is likely to have had lighter colouring than the people of the horn of Africa. So, with a similar skull to the people of the horn of Africa (who have Caucasoid sculls and therefore are not that different from Europeans craniologically anyway), and a skin tone that is relevant to the latitude, wouldn't Nefertiti have looked like something between Sophia Lauren and Iman?
And Janet Jackson has had numerous plastic surgeries so her face can not be used as a representative of any group of humanity.
Edited by Omshanti, Dec 10 2009, 07:17 PM.
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Plus, she had a husband, that rules out her blackness automatically.
really? I never considered that Akhnaten was a black man! for one reason
he looks a known Egyptian singer Ali El Hagar

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Edited by samysamy25, Dec 10 2009, 04:28 PM.
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I think samy is not getting ezana´s recent sarcasm wave
"And you want to know what is the true and causal nature of the issue? it is simply that we have been tricked into accepting the foundations of our own slavery and we have ourselves built upon it our own prison; and nowadays we defend this self-inflicted yoke from anyone who tries to remove it from us and save us from our own folly."
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I don't get this negrocentric desire to steal Egyptian culture and civilization, especially since there is widespread prejudice against negroes in modern Egypt. Most Egyptians would be deeply insulted if their ancestors were referred to as negroes.
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