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Topic Started: Mar 15 2009, 01:31 AM (5,140 Views)
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So what is the deal with the israelites, lost tribes, etc etc, what you guys think about it, theories?
"And you want to know what is the true and causal nature of the issue? it is simply that we have been tricked into accepting the foundations of our own slavery and we have ourselves built upon it our own prison; and nowadays we defend this self-inflicted yoke from anyone who tries to remove it from us and save us from our own folly."
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Its an old quack outline of history. There was some authors propagating that the Phoenicians were Anglo-Saxons as well. As for the supposed "Lost Tribes of Israel", chalk it up to Jewish folklore.
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It's funny how North Euros and SSAs consistently claim the same ancient civilizations.
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I've seen similar before. I sometimes can't tell if people are just joking when they make those kind of pages. There are all kinds of nuts ideas floating around. The most absurd is still the Youtube videos that claim that the "Anglo Saxons were black!"
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eveybody wants to be the chosen ones dont they. Now in reality, for me its not clear who actually were the true israelites. I mean I´m quite positive they had nothing to do with today jews. I know of some genetic studies going around, they were saying some Indian people were the closest genetically to the original israelites. Seemed inconclusive to me.


"And you want to know what is the true and causal nature of the issue? it is simply that we have been tricked into accepting the foundations of our own slavery and we have ourselves built upon it our own prison; and nowadays we defend this self-inflicted yoke from anyone who tries to remove it from us and save us from our own folly."
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Well, what you just wrote goes against all studies I've ever seen. Today's Jews are descendants of the ancient ones, some groups more tha others.
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of course ancient Israelites where of Germanic origin! they Spoke Ancient yiddish which is like anglo-saxon

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Edited by YigalSchmendrik, Mar 15 2009, 05:15 AM.
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These modern jews, they know how to take care of business eh!
"And you want to know what is the true and causal nature of the issue? it is simply that we have been tricked into accepting the foundations of our own slavery and we have ourselves built upon it our own prison; and nowadays we defend this self-inflicted yoke from anyone who tries to remove it from us and save us from our own folly."
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lol, it is as outlandish as those other sites claiming that the Japanese are one of the lost tribes.
Good thing that genetic research is putting all this back in its place.
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So what are genetic studies revealing?, in a nutshell if possible....
"And you want to know what is the true and causal nature of the issue? it is simply that we have been tricked into accepting the foundations of our own slavery and we have ourselves built upon it our own prison; and nowadays we defend this self-inflicted yoke from anyone who tries to remove it from us and save us from our own folly."
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Another site is this http://www.britam.org/

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Edited by Merlin, Mar 15 2009, 02:27 PM.
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Merlin, have you see then comparisons with Hebrew and Welsh? How accurate are they?
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Seems like everyone is an Israelite.
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Merlin, have you see then comparisons with Hebrew and Welsh? How accurate are they?
Highly speculative Trog and purely coincidental. The grammatical structure for both languages are different.
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In this thread ( on some forum I found googling)the poster Skipper arguments that based on biblical scripture ancient israelites were " white" and then procedes to imply that european nations descend from the ten lost tribes, again.

To be honest this whole thing puzzles me because it seems indeed the bible portrays the ancient israelites as fair skinned people, what were fair skinned people doing in the middle east in ancient times?
"And you want to know what is the true and causal nature of the issue? it is simply that we have been tricked into accepting the foundations of our own slavery and we have ourselves built upon it our own prison; and nowadays we defend this self-inflicted yoke from anyone who tries to remove it from us and save us from our own folly."
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How does it portray fair skin? And anyway, fair skin is relative. People in the Levant are lighter than people from Arabia, and not much darker than South Europeans, who were the only European they had contact with, and they certainly knew about SSAs. So would they had seen themselves as "light" in that context? Of course.
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How does it portray fair skin? And anyway, fair skin is relative. People in the Levant are lighter than people from Arabia, and not much darker than South Europeans, who were the only European they had contact with, and they certainly knew about SSAs. So would they had seen themselves as "light" in that context? Of course.
not to mention in the bible contrast is often with people in the south, or with Edomites who because of certain reasons had a high incidance of rufosity, Redheads where often mistaken for Edomites acourding to rabinic texts. The Jews saw themselves as distinct from people of the levant though and the Jesus reconstruction program verifies that they where so different that they could be picked out by skullshape (Canaanites dolicephalic,Jews Brachycephalic)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilh8QkjpCh8 listen at around 2:24
Edited by YigalSchmendrik, Mar 16 2009, 09:57 AM.
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Here's that forensic thing from two angles:
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did you watch the video and the whole thing about brachycephalic Hebrews VS dolicephalic canaanites? everyone always chooses to ignore that!
Edited by YigalSchmendrik, Mar 16 2009, 12:17 PM.
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Yeah, but he didn't use those terms. Maybe he would had, if it wasn't for a popular TV program? He said gracile, at least. So how come Jews of today have become much more Dinarisised?
Edited by Funk, Mar 16 2009, 12:19 PM.
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