What has happened to shonen?

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What has happened to shonen?; why new stuff doesnt seem as timeless
Topic Started: Dec 20 2008, 05:36 PM (104 Views)
Slan	Dec 20 2008, 05:36 PM Post #1
Seinen manga fan Posts: 9,810 Group: God Hand Member #39 Joined: Aug 24, 2008 Blog Manga nonsense	OK as some may know of the current shonen popular trio one piece/bleach/naruto but I grew up watching the shonen movie titled AKIRA and it was also based on a shonen manga of the same title,so I was wondering where did the shonene timelessness of akira go with these new crop of shonen manga what exactly would make these stick up to the caliber of akira manga since akira was the first manga brought overiand colorized by marvel comics, which brought over fans of traditional american comics to the manga universe. edit a few links on the manga I'm talking about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_(manga) http://www.akira2019.com/ Edited by Slan, Dec 20 2008, 05:40 PM.



SawBone	Dec 20 2008, 09:51 PM Post #2
Posts: 4,486 Group: Musubi Member #25 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Preferred Internet Browser Firefox	I'm not sure about the manga, but I wouldn't put Akira in the shounen genre. The wikipedia link you provided puts it into seinen too.



Slan	Dec 23 2008, 01:45 PM Post #3
Seinen manga fan Posts: 9,810 Group: God Hand Member #39 Joined: Aug 24, 2008 Blog Manga nonsense	but dark horse has it age appropriate for 14+ isnt that shonen age range?



SawBone	Dec 23 2008, 06:09 PM Post #4
Posts: 4,486 Group: Musubi Member #25 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Preferred Internet Browser Firefox	I guess it could work. Anyway, as for your question, I suppose new shounen anime is much tamer/kids oriented than "older" ones.. like Akira (if you put it into shounen genre) and Fist of the North Star. I don't mind either way, but I think newer/younger anime fans will generally prefer the new shounen stuff.



Slan	Dec 23 2008, 06:13 PM Post #5
Seinen manga fan Posts: 9,810 Group: God Hand Member #39 Joined: Aug 24, 2008 Blog Manga nonsense	but the newer stuff doesnt seem to handle actual issues that people face as they grow up unlike in akira which to some aspects shown the revolts of the youth from the 60s-90s america & japan in some cases,use of religion as both saviour & abuses in power from same authorities. well I guess the newer chapters of naruto is sorta touching some akira type stuff but it doesnt feel as natural as the actual riots/destruction in the akira manga were.



SawBone	Dec 23 2008, 06:58 PM Post #6
Posts: 4,486 Group: Musubi Member #25 Joined: Aug 1, 2008 Preferred Internet Browser Firefox	True enough, the new stuff seems a bit shallow in comparison.



Slan	Dec 24 2008, 05:24 PM Post #7
Seinen manga fan Posts: 9,810 Group: God Hand Member #39 Joined: Aug 24, 2008 Blog Manga nonsense	arent there any more shonen that actually has depth anymore or is it all just imagery without storytelling majority of the time now?



Hikari	Jan 6 2009, 12:32 PM Post #8
Member of the Faye Posts: 430 Group: Nen Master Member #97 Joined: Dec 5, 2008 Preferred Internet Browser indifferent	I don't know if I'd classify Akira as shounen either, but for arguments sake if it were, I would say that just like any anime genre there are series for younger audiences and older audiences. Even when Akira was originally released, there were plenty of kiddie shounen floating around. it's not that shonen has gotten more kiddie, but shonen has it's sub-genres that can't really be compared on the same level.



Slan	Jan 6 2009, 02:05 PM Post #9
Seinen manga fan Posts: 9,810 Group: God Hand Member #39 Joined: Aug 24, 2008 Blog Manga nonsense	but you have to admit you need some shonen that should be a bit smarter than a majority of titles to at least grow the genre into different directions without crossing the seinen barrier.



Hikari	Jan 8 2009, 02:10 PM Post #10
Member of the Faye Posts: 430 Group: Nen Master Member #97 Joined: Dec 5, 2008 Preferred Internet Browser indifferent	Shonen is defintely going through the same magic girl phase like when sailor moon came out and all of the sudden the already narrowly-varied shojo genre went completely cookie cutter for a few years. I'm sure like everthing it's time will pass and they'll start mixing it up a bit.



LALA-Chan <3	Mar 8 2009, 08:08 PM Post #11
bye Posts: 413 Group: Nen Master Member #126 Joined: Mar 4, 2009 Preferred Internet Browser bye bitches Blog BITCHES	yea its just adjusting to the whole thing with kids and being more.....idk just more



Nollog	May 2 2009, 05:44 PM Post #12
(ﾉﾟ-ﾟ)ﾉ旦 ☆ ＤＯＺＯ Posts: 77 Group: Horo Member #145 Joined: May 1, 2009 Preferred Internet Browser IE3	I wouldn't put akira in the shounen category. Shounen is mindless action, and always has been. I don't see much - if any - change. I think Akira is getting an anime tv series this, next, or the year after though, so we'll probably see.



Slan	May 2 2009, 05:46 PM Post #13
Seinen manga fan Posts: 9,810 Group: God Hand Member #39 Joined: Aug 24, 2008 Blog Manga nonsense	actually dicaprio is making akira in 2 live action movies supposedly. Dont forget fist of the north star has a story and ended in 27 volumes and shown in a shonen magazine. ^.^;



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