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The four ways
Topic Started: Dec 22 2009, 11:52 PM (559 Views)
drksidesbr-Dono
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once again yes sure black coffin wouldnt kill one of the uber unstoppable chars, but we arent alow uber unstoppable chars, i know what its like to be a member, this isnt the only site ANY of us play on, we are trying to keep things balanced, and wether you like it or not, the easiest way to do that is to weaken the strong moves, not strenghten the weak ones. And keeping the rp fun while sticking to the anime is hard if you have never been an admin you wouldnt know, the anime is HIGHLY unbalanced, the humans may have an almost limitess possibility for powers, but they are weak, shinigami have a lot more special stuff to them cause they have been recording their info over thousands of years, and hollows have infinite numbers. Sence we dont have 65 billion hollows playing,sence this site is still very new and very few people, we dont need aizen level ichigo level or kenpachi level people, they all play major roles in the anime and therefor are giving MASSIVE power boosts. anyway my point is with powers that strong its really hard to keep down god modding, if after some time (when people acually CAN get these anyway) we may alow more things, but as is we dont have enough people who we know can wield massive power without makeing it unfair for everyone else we have decided this is in best intrest, if you want every power available in bleach prove to us they can be used fairly and well consider it. And ill make one final point, im not trying to pick on anyone specificly but even some of the simple moves youd think couldnt be messed up or over powerd have already been, weve had issues with garaganta, cero and even a few of the low level kidou, now if those can be messed up through a misunderstanding imagine what you could do with a power thats already incredibly strong, besides if everyone wants to comtinue to complain without really giving us a good reason, i can always just remove ALL those uber moves from the site (if you dont think i would ask james)
Edited by drksidesbr, Dec 23 2009, 05:24 PM.
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Ok so weaken the strong moves then, theres no need to take them away completely. Just make Shinigami moves as powerful as hollow or human moves. Also, none of us are Aizen or Ichigo or Byakuya level, none of us are even Hanatoro level yet, we're just saying that we'd like the option to be strong, even if you make it so we have to train like crazy, because if we put in lots of time and effort, why can't we be rewarded with various skills? Especially if you make them the same strength as any hollow or human ability, it's down to the stats at the end of the day. If a Shinigami with lower stats then a hollow uses a high level kidou, it won't kill the hollow, the hollow would kill the shinigami. Your kidou is only as strong as your character, and you character is only as strong as your stats, otherwise what's the point in even having stats? If a black coffin is a shinigami with say 100 total's strongest attack, then it should have the same strength as a hollow with 100 total's strongest attack. The only reason Aizens 25% black coffin is so strong is because he is that stong. If a weaker captain used it, it wouldn't be anywhere near as strong, even at 100%. Also, if people get confused about strengths, but in and tell them to change it, that's an admins job. Also, i though Niall was head admin? So shouldn't he be the one deleting all the major moves and such? Our reason is if you delete high moves, then the lower one's will be the strongest, and sooner or later you'll delete the lower one's too, and then they'll be like nothing. The site is working well at the moment, so why are you messing with it?
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ok we understand that, and it may,but right now you dont have to worry about it, when we get more people and we have stronger people and we can see how things are being used we will see, and nai as head admin meens nothing there is a reason there are 3 of us we have to agree, i am just getting tired of people wanting to be able to build super chars already when even in story line everything is still young, everything is being rebuilt the gotei 13 and the old hollow order is gone entirely, so there wouldnt be anyone that good at anything that powerful yet, were not saying that in the future with the right training things wont be possible but as of right now no we cant have people that strong. And im not the one coming up with most of this, but after talking we all agreed on it, the site wont change how its running none of these will even matter for some time, these are captian level moves and noone even have vice captian very few shikai or the equivelent of.
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And we arnt removing the high level moves, there is a difference between restricting the highest and most extreem moves, and removing all your powers. If you train like crazy and have high stats, yes you will get your advantage, the advantage of being more powerful already, so you are already claiming more power, why need even more extra bonus'. If we where to give hollows and humans extra powers we would be changing 2 races to keep one the same, meaning rather than change one race we would be changing 2. Yet another point, remember these restrictions do apply to us aswell so we are following the same rules as you. Now for yet another point, shunko would have been compleatly lost with no one knowing it, so in theory we shouldnt have it on the site, we are diverting from the plot by allowing a young shinigami to devolop the move and master it in such a short time period. Black coffin was extreamly hard for aizen a god mod character to devolop to 25% to devolop it beyond that we are giving you powers above aizen, by devolping it to that point, we are giving you powers equal to aizen, so in theory we have found aizen atleast as strong as yammamoto who is easily inspiering fear into 2 captains with just his shekai, meaning we should half the amount to 12.5% but we arnt. If you look the only one to use bankin has shown no ability to release a zampactou atall, and the person who used kin was insanly gifted with kidou and allowed his own custom powers, to give you this is unfair, and he showed no ability to use bankai. So lets have a look at what that would do if we where following the anime without godmodding
1) black coffin at its uppermost limit would be 12.5% after intensive training
2) to use kin you wouldnt be allowed bankai
3) to use bankin you wouldnt be allowed shekai
4) there is no way to obtain shunko
you want us to follow the anime that clostly with no god modding, that would be the result
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Shinigami UndeadChipmunk
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Yeah, i know none of us are that strong, but if you don't want us worrying about how strong we can be, then stop putting the rules up right now. You should wait until we need it. And i wasn't saying follow the manga, i was just saying that you should include all the things that are in it so it feels more like bleach. And just because you haven't seen those peoples various shikai's and bankais and what not, doesn't mean they don't have them. Tousen had a vizard mask, and a resureccion, but we never saw that until recently. Also, we know shinji has shikai and bankai because he was a captain, but he hasn't used it yet, it's very like Tite Kubo and other mangaka to do that, it just creates effect. And i never said the restrictions didn't apply to you, i just said it would be nice if you asked the members before making up new rules.
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James-Dono

By making the rules now for later on, we dont have to rush decisions, if we waited untill then, there would be none of those techs allowed atall. By thinking of the future now, we are giving the most balanced possible rules allowing for the fairest possible RP with the most equal rules
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ok guys well i couldnt be arsed to read all the long bits of shite your arguing about but i think that you should have only 1 to keep it fair, but that you cant even choose a path til you reach about 140-150ish sort of area cos otherwise 1. it would make no sense for you to be able to do any of them without being that strong and 2. if it was done any earlier then it would be really unfair on other rpers (eg hollow/arrancar, quincys, etc)





ps komamura says hes the weakest captain in the manga and he sucks tousens balls



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I am glad you agree its unfair that they get all that, ofcource arrancar have some very ott moves themself that will be put under the same limitation

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