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BF3; Yes, or no?
Topic Started: Oct 6 2011, 09:24:01 PM (198 Views)
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I honestly think it's gonna be a big hit when it comes out.

Also, I really don't wanna see any "beta bashing" here, since it's just that, a beta.

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Yeah, alot of people don't realize the Beta can't even really be judged. The actual beta build had to be trimmed down to comply with Microsofts data standards, and even then...the Beta build itself is over a month old compared to the current retail one. BF3 will actually be on two discs.

I pre-ordered it, though i'm debating on whether to cancel it or not. Not because I don't want the game, but I have a choice between selling GoW3 in order to get the money for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim, or canceling my BF3 pre-order for it. I like them all, but I can't afford Both BF3 AND Skyrim...and I really want Skyrim XD.

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Change my name to Razo pls

Skyrim is totally worth it.
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Yeah, but I don't want to cancel my pre-order, because then i'll end up having to pay extra in order to get the Back To Karkand expansion. If I keep my pre-order I get that DLC for free. Ugh...

Well, my plans will be based on how much I get for trading in MW2, Borderlands Game of the Year edition, and Dragon Age 2.

But back to the topic at hand:

Even though the beta isn't perfect, it's easy to see some of the gameplay improvements. The Light Machine guns are now favorite weapons of mine...save for the G3, I hated using any LMGs in Bad Company2. I also love the suppression game mechanics they added. I'm not a fan of the flashlight accessories, but they're used in real military applications so I suppose I shouldn't complain too much.
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THEN SKYRIM WILL BE YOURS C:

and mine, soon.
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I honestly think that Skyrim will be the big thing of this year, so you should do what you can to get it. But Battlefield on the other hand, will be epic as well...... I can't pre-order for some reason according to my parents, so I won't be getting either, but I think Skyrim would be better........... Blegh, the decision will kill me if I have to chooose :(
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AAAAAAARGH!!!

Too many epic games coming out at once!!!!!!!!!!

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1) MW3 (you better not say anything)
2) Saints Row the third OR BF3
3) Prototype 2
4) Assasins Creed Reveliations
5) Sonic Generations
Not really a big fan of skyrim :\

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Well, after alot of thought I decided to cancel my pre-order and instead put that money towards skyrim.

Although I like BF3, and even the Beta, I think it would be wise to wait until after release and see how it fares. Even if it isn't perfect, they are actually adding new things to the series, unlike CoD which is actually taking backward steps with their new release. So I probably will pick this up at a later date. The only real reason why I'm not picking this up now is that there are a million and one shooters out there, but not alot of really amazing RPGs. So Skyrim wins for right now on my priority list.

And to all you CoD fans, that above sentence about CoD wasn't just to bash it. MW3 is removing the monetary "Cod points" system and backtracking to something similar to the unlock system used in MW2, where you have to use a weapon...ALOT...to get attachments for it. That ruined any shred of a possibility that i'd play it online, because I did play Black Ops online. No longer will you be able to pick your unlocks and attachments...you will have to spend much longer to get the setup you want, and this system will heavily reward players who have played for a longer amount of online time than someone who's only played a couple matches. Battlefield also rewards players who've played longer, which is a broken system, so don't think i'm just bashing CoD. I'm bashing the idea that giving a player more powerful equipment for playing hours and hours and hours on an online game is balanced. This is why Halo and Gears have better multiplayer...because you can JUST start playing the game and be on an equal playing ground with everyone else. The only advantage then is skill.

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skyrim. battlefield 4. halo 4. BF3. MW3. Driver SF.

but you know what... none of them matter.




DotA 2... my precious...........

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Yeah well. If I can afford ANY game its Battlefield 3 only. At christmas. I really don't have any of my own money because I'm pretty damn young. Well. Yeah. I'm probably getting only DBZ Budokai 3(Ps2) and BF3(360) for christmas. Atleast i can ask my parents.=c
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I have around only 3 hrs on oblivion but probably am going to get Skyrim. No FPS for me :-)
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Well, I have Gears of War 3 Already which is pretty gory and freaking amazing :thumbsup: . I have Battlefield 2 which I liked a tons, but I am not gonna get battlefield 3. Well, maybe for Christmas, but it's not something that I really care about too much. MW3 is the big deal for me, hoping it wont be as FUDGED up as black ops lol. The only reason I dont really care about BF3 is cuz it gets boring after a while. You die really quickly, not having a chance to shoot back unlike call of duty. So you have to camp it out and get the sexy shots xD.

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The BF3 Beta went past my expectations I enjoyed playing it and I plan on getting it for Christmas. But Snipers man :[ they just seem to become more of a problem with every game that dice produces, not only did glitches help them on their side but the new graphics and particle effects are kind of a bitch
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Oct 10 2011, 09:08:17 AM
The only reason I dont really care about BF3 is cuz it gets boring after a while. You die really quickly, not having a chance to shoot back unlike call of duty. So you have to camp it out and get the sexy shots xD.
Pfft. That's because you never slow down in CoD when you get shot. That's a piece of metal flying at you over the speed of sound...you're not gonna be able to flat-out sprint with bullets hitting you, and CoD ignores that. Even Gears realised that. And I don't know what you mean by not being able to shoot back except in CoD. In CoD, Unless you drop-shoot or your opponent is drunk and can't aim, if you get shot at first then you're dead. No questions. In BF you can't just spray and pray like CoD...you actually have to aim for the vital areas if you're in a gunfight.

Now, you obviously don't play with a team then, if that's how you view Battlefield. If you have two good medics on your team, NO ONE will ever die without strategic targeting. I remember one match on Africa Harbor in BFBC2 when I had one assault guy, one recon guy, and me as their medic staying in cover. We went the whole match without staying down, and won it. You don't "Camp" in Battlefield. It emulates modern combat in that you have a small squad going from building to building and locking down areas for control. The only way to stay on top unless you're an FPS god is to stay with your team and cover each other's backs. That's totally different from CoD, where any teamwork you have is limited to flanking and firing at the same targets. Unless you count spawn-trapping, which is the worst gaming practice i've ever witnessed. In CoD, I can lone wolf and go ridiculously positive. If I try that in Battlefield, I will fail 90% of the time, and my team will lose. That's why I switched to the medic class as my main, so that even while playing with randoms I can cover their backs.

But that's the big difference between Battlefield and CoD. CoD is an arcade shooter like Halo where someone high-ranked and good at FPS games can do whatever they want without a team. Battlefield needs strategy and planning in order to stay alive. CoD is fast-paced. Battlefield is slow-paced. Et cetera...

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Pfft. That's because you never slow down in CoD when you get shot. That's a piece of metal flying at you over the speed of sound...you're not gonna be able to flat-out sprint with bullets hitting you, and CoD ignores that. Even Gears realised that. And I don't know what you mean by not being able to shoot back except in CoD. In CoD, Unless you drop-shoot or your opponent is drunk and can't aim, if you get shot at first then you're dead. No questions. In BF you can't just spray and pray like CoD...you actually have to aim for the vital areas if you're in a gunfight.

Now, you obviously don't play with a team then, if that's how you view Battlefield. If you have two good medics on your team, NO ONE will ever die without strategic targeting. I remember one match on Africa Harbor in BFBC2 when I had one assault guy, one recon guy, and me as their medic staying in cover. We went the whole match without staying down, and won it. You don't "Camp" in Battlefield. It emulates modern combat in that you have a small squad going from building to building and locking down areas for control. The only way to stay on top unless you're an FPS god is to stay with your team and cover each other's backs. That's totally different from CoD, where any teamwork you have is limited to flanking and firing at the same targets. Unless you count spawn-trapping, which is the worst gaming practice i've ever witnessed. In CoD, I can lone wolf and go ridiculously positive. If I try that in Battlefield, I will fail 90% of the time, and my team will lose. That's why I switched to the medic class as my main, so that even while playing with randoms I can cover their backs.

But that's the big difference between Battlefield and CoD. CoD is an arcade shooter like Halo where someone high-ranked and good at FPS games can do whatever they want without a team. Battlefield needs strategy and planning in order to stay alive. CoD is fast-paced. Battlefield is slow-paced. Et cetera...

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So I ended up pre-ordering this regardless.

My friend has a flashed xbox and got his BF3 already, and from his descriptions then CoD's reign of staleness is going to start dwindling unless they actually do something new for once.

Everyone prepare a toast...i'll let you know if my friend's words ring true, and then we'll drink to the game that will knock CoD for a loop :3
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So I ended up pre-ordering this regardless.

My friend has a flashed xbox and got his BF3 already, and from his descriptions then CoD's reign of staleness is going to start dwindling unless they actually do something new for once.

Everyone prepare a toast...i'll let you know if my friend's words ring true, and then we'll drink to the game that will knock CoD for a loop :3
everyone is saying that battlefield 3 will finally be the thing to beat cod. and "battlefield 3 is the shooter of the year" and Ide love to agree (me being a BF fan)...

but there just to many stupid consumers out there and cod will still remain dominant Im afraid.

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but there just to many stupid consumers out there and cod will still remain dominant Im afraid.
CoD = The "arcade shooter" so yes many more kids will cry to their parents for it.

BF3 = Realistic shooter, and seems boring in the eyes of little kids.

I don't mean to offend anyone if reading this, but that's just the way I see it.

As for now i'm taking a break from shooters, well I'm trying to, and going to buy
Dragon Ball Z Ultimate Tenkaichi and Sonic Generations.
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but there just to many stupid consumers out there and cod will still remain dominant Im afraid.
Yes, but this will be a big blow to them. They'll either get with the times and start actually trying to improve their game for once, or they'll keep re-releasing the same content every year like they have been and their sales will die gradually.

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@blaze - dont buy sonic games. ever. they are terrible.
@CAE - yes i think battlefields increasing fan base will defiantly make cod want to up the anti.
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So...

Who else thinks this game is just beautiful? I mean that quite literally. Graphics, even on my shitty TV, look wonderful.

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BF3 made me jizz my pants from all the realism 0.o

This is the kind of game I was looking for. I used to have the assumption that all first person shooters are boring but I take that back.
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My only dislike is they made the unlock system worse. I seem to be one of the few gamers who think unlocking things through killing/killing in a certain way is bad. I cannot stand when I get a new gun, but it's unusable because the iron sights are shit and I have to get x amount of kills with it in order to get an RDS or better. Likewise, Jets don't even start out with countermeasures to missiles. I'm a few days late to the multiplayer, but I can tell the power difference already...any idiot with a rocket can point themselves in my direction for a few seconds and end my life, regardless of any fancy flying I do. And because of that, unlocking countermeasures is a feat in and of itself.

Halo and GoW remain the only MP shooters I know of at the moment to not feature an imbalanced unlock system. I can join a match as a rank 1, fight against a maxed out player, and still be on an equal playing field.

To those of you who want to argue with me that the unlock system isn't imbalanced, then read my counter-point:

Hypothetically speaking...if you have two players on opposite teams, each with the same internet connection, t.v, and so forth...and both players have the same skillset and reflexes, BUT one player has only the default weapons, and the other has all the unlocks...Which player do you think will win the majority of matches? If they're using exactly the same hardware, have the same skills, and the same internet connection, the one with the better equipment has the obvious advantage. Hands down, no arguments.

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I honestly take back what I said and I think the game is fucking beautiful. Im a fan of both cod and bf because in my opinion they're both great games. Sometimes people are looking for realism in a game, and sometimes people are looking for fun in a game. MW3 and BF3 both try and balance that out, and they have their differences and pros and cons. BF3 is definitely the most realistic shooter, but CoD is as blaze said, an "Arcade" kind of shooter which is more fun for people. Im getting MW3 and plan on getting BF3 soon because I am a BF fan, seeing how epic BF2 was. I actually put some research into this, and one of the reasons that CoD is more famous than BF is because you were allowed to customize your guns and such earlier in CoD than BF. I honestly don't think people should have a big fuss on which is better, because they are both just pixels made for our entertainment and we shouldn't be arguing on which is better. This is just my opinion.

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