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Fighting; What are your thoughts?
Topic Started: Jun 8 2009, 07:17 AM (498 Views)
Kire Du'Hai
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As you all know, fighting is an inextricable part of mando culture. Fighting to grow, fighting to survive, fighting to protect, fighting for what you believe in.

It is the obligation of every mando to make themselves as capable a fighter as they can possibly be, for the sake of their families, their beliefs, their cultures, and themselves, and the idea is to become a become a better person as a result.

But, I hope we can all agree that fights (I mean true fights... good vs. evil, life-or-death, etc.) are, in fact, a bad thing. In a perfect world, they would not occur. Thus, it is virtuous, (And therefore in my opinion, very mando-like) to avoid unnecessary fights.

But we are warriors. Our devotion to fighting and being able to fight is part of our identity. How do you reconcile this with a reluctance to fight? Disregarding the purely emotional responses in which you strongly desire to fight or are utterly repulsed by the idea of fighting, how, logically, do you decide a battle is worth fighting? This is something every mando must decide for themselves.

But that is merely food for thought, because that's not actually what this thread's supposed to be about. (I think it's more for personal thought, but if you feel the urge to talk about it with vode, feel free to start another thread.)

On this thread, simply discuss what you know about fighting, weaponry, armor, your tastes in them, what you're learning, etc. Medieval armor or modern armor. Kung Fu or "Gun Fu". Tanks or horses. Anything. Everyone here is at least to some degree, a combat enthusiast. So, talk about what you like.

Oya Manda!

-Kire Du'Hai
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Brokar Darasuum
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I've got a preference for weapons with shock value. Assault rifles and shotguns draw me the most. Not having real combat experience, all I can relate to is airsoft. I'm pretty fit, so I combine my speed with heavy weapons to rush opponents. Every now and then I'm mowed down before I get close enough to begin my own assault, but it works far more often than it fails. My friends expect it now and it still works.

But in hand to hand combat, I do the opposite. I've got the most experience with aikido, so my strongest point is in counterattacks. However, I only ever fight with my friends, so it's always just in good fun.
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Kire Du'Hai
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When it comes to fighting, I tend to like weapons that are particularly specialized for a specific application than a well-rounded weapon. (that's just my tastes, rather than my practicality speaking, though.) Weapons that are only much good at 500 yards or farther, short blades only good for quick slashes to a vital spot, etc. I like the beauty of design that usually accompanies these weapons.

But what I actually buy is another matter. Bowie knives, short swords, katanas, a crossbow, a .45, a .22(Believe me when I say this caliber is *not* to be underestimated), an SKS, and a 12-gauge pump-action. I tend to go for practicality in what I actually own, even if I do engage in novelty every once in a while (no-dachi, shuriken, manrikigusari).

As for what styles I go for... well, I'm starting out practical, and dabbling in others. Tae Kwon Do is one of the most well-rounded martial arts I can think of, and I'm playing around with Baguazhang, even if I can't find a teacher. (I love any fighting style that's centered around going around your opponent.) I'm also enjoying TaeYu-Do classes (a mix of TKD and Korean Judo). I've not taken aikido, but I've had a guest instructor come over and teach some hapkido. I don't know if you'd consider that quite the same thing... <shrug>

Oya Manda!

-Kire Du'Hai
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Jag'ara'nov
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In the last year, I have been doing fencing. While EXTREMELY impractical in combat, its a start.

But, as a physics nerd, I tend to focus on things that go boom.

To be more to specifics, I would personally like to build myself a suit of armor, but not to current or olden standards, but a combination, with even the best tech of today infused. This of course would require many golds and many permits, so I doubt it happening.

As for weapons, other than explosives, I've always been a fan of the M-16A4, MP-5N, and the grenade launchers that go with them.

Melee combat is mostly pointless in conventional war these days, due to most troops not closing to that range. With the increase in vision, training, and markmanship, you most likely will be endanging yourself more to drop the gun, unless in a surprise situation.
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Brokar Darasuum
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That's very true, unfortunately. hand to hand combat will always hold a special place in my heart because it requires no equipment and can be used at any time in any place in any situation. But when it comes to guns, it's all about the G36. H&K is the best. Gotta love German engineering!
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Kire Du'Hai
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Amen! <loves my little german car>

G36 = awesomeness. But when it comes to assault rifles, I think I'd prefer the Steyr aug (I know, that's technically austrian). I love bullpups.

I tend to pick firearms by their rounds and action, like so:

Shotguns = pump action 12 gauge. 3 1/2 inch shell capability is a plus.
Handguns = .45 semi auto, must have single action. Double stack mags are nice, too.
Long range rifles = can't argue with a .50 BMG, but for the more economical, .300 win mag. Semi auto is preferred either way.
Assault rifles = I actually have little preference... 7.62 or 5.56 are both good, but I've always liked the idea of a .308 assault rifle.
SMG's = Blowback, delayed blowback, or *maaaybe* recoil operated. 9mm the best. (Don't need a big round when it's spray and pray) MP5 ftw.
Machine guns = Hey, if it's gonna be stationary, might as well make it big, so, Hmm... 20mm minigun. (nevermind the heinous amount of money you use up firing the blasted things...) <cue maniacal laughter>

Oh, and Jag? Fencing is awesome, don't let anyone tell you different.

Things that go boom are awesome too, but I don't think you'll run into much argument there.

Oya Manda!

-Kire Du'Hai
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Brokar Darasuum
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The AUG A3 is pretty sick, but have you seen the Israeli Tavor TAR-21? Wow. Those things are pretty. I'm torn between bullpup and standard configurations because I like the extra barrel length of bullpups but the weight distribution of standard.

The MP5 is alright, but I like the UMP a little better when it comes to subs.
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Kire Du'Hai
Jun 8 2009, 07:17 AM
It is the obligation of every mando to make themselves as capable a fighter as they can possibly be
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Aug 21 2009, 01:56 AM
Kire Du'Hai
Jun 8 2009, 07:17 AM
It is the obligation of every mando to make themselves as capable a fighter as they can possibly be
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/SIGH
You do realize he said capable to fight, but not to actually to fight, right?
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Oh, and Jag? Fencing is awesome, don't let anyone tell you different.

Oya Manda!

-Kire Du'Hai
Yeah, but the failure in combat for it is that it assumes your opponent will only be able to stab you and not slash you. As well as assuming they follow the same rules you do.
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Fencing IS awesome.
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