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pk or pwnage; last ndd
Topic Started: May 18 2008, 08:09 AM (1,448 Views)
rauch

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May 19 2008, 04:00 PM
in PK there is NO honor, look at old videos.. everyone fights everyone.

and why pk is dead... 2-3 years ago people attacked every moving noob too and pk wasnt dead, so ur comment is just a load of nonsense coming from someone who is tired of dieing while entering KF 1 time a year.
Well, if you think, you have to answer my unsaid questions, let me answer on your statements.

That there is no (or only very few) player in PK with honor is acknowledged, I don't care about it, shall they have fun (though I seem to be not the only one not liking this, therefor this thread, nor?)

About dead pk, so you just say I'm wrong just because it was that way in the past? Then tell me why there is so few PK (except maybe on NDD) in your eyes, maybe I'll understand you.

There is always more than one side, you seem to live on the straight hardcore PK edge, enjoy it.

I'm out of this (in my eyes) senseless discussion, enjoy your empty PK areas.
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rauch
May 19 2008, 05:48 PM
TempesT
May 19 2008, 04:00 PM
in PK there is NO honor, look at old videos.. everyone fights everyone.

and why pk is dead... 2-3 years ago people attacked every moving noob too and pk wasnt dead, so ur comment is just a load of nonsense coming from someone who is tired of dieing while entering KF 1 time a year.
Well, if you think, you have to answer my unsaid questions, let me answer on your statements.

That there is no (or only very few) player in PK with honor is acknowledged, I don't care about it, shall they have fun (though I seem to be not the only one not liking this, therefor this thread, nor?)

About dead pk, so you just say I'm wrong just because it was that way in the past? Then tell me why there is so few PK (except maybe on NDD) in your eyes, maybe I'll understand you.

There is always more than one side, you seem to live on the straight hardcore PK edge, enjoy it.

I'm out of this (in my eyes) senseless discussion, enjoy your empty PK areas.
u are wrong about this rauch and i ll tell u where imo
When u enter a pk arena/map u expect to be attacked , u expect to have a fight, if the person is higher a/d really doesn t matter , u don t go there to ff, u go to kill or be killed
This post is about higher a/d players that don t fight each other cause they are afraid of pki? are friends ( i fight with friends just for the thrill of pk) ? are from allied guilds ( that imho again , pk guilds shouldn t have more than 1 ally)
Don t be afraid to die, i always see it as a lesson, " hmmm maybe i should done that..." or maybe just for the fun of it
PK is dead cause of pwnage... it s really funny to see 4 ppl from different guilds waiting to attack u as u fight w/ another , or enter a pk map and see others chatting about how pr0 they are...this imo kills pk... and pk is FUN, is exciting, gives adrenaline rush... and most important gives some fun to the game..cause otherwise is just another job
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May 19 2008, 06:34 PM

When u enter a pk arena/map u expect to be attacked , u expect to have a fight, if the person is higher a/d really doesn t matter , u don t go there to ff, u go to kill or be killed
This post is about higher a/d players that don t fight each other cause they are afraid of pki? are friends ( i fight with friends just for the thrill of pk) ? are from allied guilds ( that imho again , pk guilds shouldn t have more than 1 ally)
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Tempest: May 19 2008, 01:20 PM
 
"taste my brod bitch."
(paraphrase): omfg, pk is empty, why doesn't anybody fight?

duh.

There is an abundance of lame-ass weapons, as well as lame players (latter part not aimed at Tempest) who remove any sense of fun or sportsmanship from PK.
What fun is it to work for weeks to earn a ti plate, only to have it broken by some jackass with a social disorder? Similarly, what fun is it to work for years to earn a/d levels, only to be rendered unable to so much as restore health by the lucky hit of some overpowered special weapon?

I choose not to PK often because almost any time I try, it is a disappointment for one reason or another. "Old-school" PK was more about PK'ing skill than it was about levels or items. It was feasible to kill someone 20 a/d above you, if you knew what you were doing. Nowadays, it is a battle of who has more orange-spamming weapons and armor (edit: and a petting zoo).
Edited by asgnny, May 20 2008, 05:57 AM.
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May 20 2008, 05:14 AM
Tempest: May 19 2008, 01:20 PM
 
"taste my brod bitch."
(paraphrase): omfg, pk is empty, why doesn't anybody fight?

duh.

There is an abundance of lame-ass weapons, as well as lame players (latter part not aimed at Tempest) who remove any sense of fun or sportsmanship from PK.
What fun is it to work for weeks to earn a ti plate, only to have it broken by some jackass with a social disorder? Similarly, what fun is it to work for years to earn a/d levels, only to be rendered unable to so much as restore health by the lucky hit of some overpowered special weapon?

I choose not to PK often because almost any time I try, it is a disappointment for one reason or another. "Old-school" PK was more about PK'ing skill than it was about levels or items. It was feasible to kill someone 20 a/d above you, if you knew what you were doing. Nowadays, it is a battle of who has more orange-spamming weapons and armor (edit: and a petting zoo).
I have some thoughts about this, i agree, up to a point, that with these weapons or armors remove sportmanship and the sense of fun but as in real life , there must be an "evolutional process" , new weapons, rare weapons etc.
But this is mostly Radu s choise than players cause he decides the development. But i wanted to point players attitude about pk
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The existence of very powerful items that cost hundreds of kgc make it very hard for your average joe player-pk'er (who doesn't have 12 hours a day to spend in game making gc, or RL$$ to spend) to be competitive in PK.

Alienating everyone but die-hard players from PK, to the current degree, is not a good idea, plain and simple.

EDIT:
And as for the BRoD, this weapon has no strategic value and only brings any kind happiness to people with, as asgnny said, social disorders.

It's implemented, as far i can tell, simply in an attempt from the game creator to help his in-game and RL economy... not for actual enjoyment of the game's players.

That's my opinion anyways :P
Edited by Korrode, May 20 2008, 01:32 PM.
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As much as i would like to have a special rare sword it is difficult, but i won t blaim some players for having it. Even if they play many hours and sucrifise many rl things for that or sucrifise their $$ which is their decission /prob... i can t say anything for that, their choise. As in rl, work harder than others get more $$ (that s another story)

I also would like some things to change about these weapons, maybe a very rare cape or something... but i don t think that there are so many in game ... as for BroD and BoD there is a cape.

--- my opinion : if ppl saw pk as fun and not as pwnage would enter more in a pk map/arena, and if already existing pkers would pk and not fuck around ,as i have mentioned above, there would be more action
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It is not the greatest joy imaginable when you enter KF/TD (NDD) and you don't even have time to pay attention to the attackers' names before you're forced to either diss or die. It's not fighting, it's pure slaughter.
Surprisingly WSa proved to be the best place to pick a fight and stand a chance, although I got a taste of one of those gay special weapons, JSoCD.

These kind of experiences do not encourage pk. I'll continue as an allrounder and hope to get my first kill on some NDD sooner or later. :P
stfu and harvest, kk
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May 20 2008, 02:13 PM
... as for BroD and BoD there is a cape.

Maybe there should be a Cotu perk as well ?
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Walt_Her

Temp, you are wrong.

i play only for 2 yr. and am sure i don't understand shit about pk.
What i know is that the fun about fighting has been hit in the hardway out of me!

As i was ~ 60's a/d i went into KF on NDD. i nvr tried to fight in the arena's, why? just because i am an allrounder not a fighter. Fighters know i am, fighters know they can beat the shit out of me, or fight me in a decent way, give me some credit, a nice fight and then kill me. Then i would have had fun.

OK now picture this, yes i have seen old pic's of KF, i have seen video's of "oldschool" pk. You should watch them too if you have time and look ad them instead of only enjoying the loudness of the music. ppl fight one on one. or 2 low vs 1 high lvl.

What happens now? bunch of stupid teenage "hardcore" fighters jump on you and within sec's you can make the walk back from Hell to KF again.
Dis ?? hell another will catch it.
strategies? no way sir we just gear up and assoon as a fight last more then 5 sec we draw some ebul strong weapon.
long fight? hell we only wanna kill asap so we can have the PKI.

Sorry lad, not for me. kill me if you want when i am in KF but for once give a low lvl fighter a chance to atleast hit you every once in a while. Maybe he will enjoy it one day and PK will revive again.
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May 20 2008, 05:18 PM
Xarondas
May 20 2008, 02:13 PM
... as for BroD and BoD there is a cape.

Maybe there should be a Cotu perk as well ?
How about if someone wearing a Cotu was hit by a brod/bod, the effect gets reversed and the player wielding the brod/bod gets hit by his own weapon, instead of it just not working? And how about this works with special swords too?

Power should come at a price. :P
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now that's an awesome suggestion St_A.

If you don't post it on the main forums, i will :P
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@ all the comments with "high lvls and their friends slay me"

get some friends and attack em in team? i mean if they'r in KF with 10 people, grab 10 of your people or 20 and go fuck em up. it's sure that you can't do a shit with 2 people or 1, but then just get your friends like they do.

the main problem is, and will always be that noobs ally with each other like they'r scared.
do it like NL did, reset ur allies and go PK.
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Hey Temp, would you be my friend? :D
I mean, holy crap, where could I find 10-20 ppl to go pk with me? Me lonely... :'(
At least all the colors I see in PK maps are yellow and red. \o/
stfu and harvest, kk
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May 20 2008, 06:27 PM


How about if someone wearing a Cotu was hit by a brod/bod, the effect gets reversed and the player wielding the brod/bod gets hit by his own weapon, instead of it just not working? And how about this works with special swords too?

Power should come at a price. :P
I would rather it was a seperate item.

Ie: A medallion of reflection... this way broders wont know you are wearing one :P
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pro....i'd love to see dekke getting fucked up the ass by someone who reflects his brod...
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i don t mind getting killed, but honestly just from the looks of it when u enter a arena or map and see 140s not attack each other is kinda disappointing knowning that all they want is from u to enter so whoever gets lucky can have ur pki


yup totally agree, i would have thought that ppl get higher a/d to pwn high lvl guys, not ally w/ them.

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I am talking about how example NC arena works . 4-5 (and more) top a/ders (different guilds) do not to attack each other , gathering around a n00b , waiting to pwn him/her. Instead of pking each other


PATHETIC


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This has been my biggest gripe for ages, and is the only reason WTF! has ended up with more than the originally planned 1-2 allies max.


yup you were starting to raise my eyebrows when i started seeing things like this..

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Definitely time to take another look at LION's ally/enemy list. I love to fight and yesterday was just fekking ridiculous.


Nano currently has no allies, ive never enjoyed pk more.
My sympathy is Ltd (Pty).
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This has been my biggest gripe for ages, and is the only reason WTF! has ended up with more than the originally planned 1-2 allies max.


yup you were starting to raise my eyebrows when i started seeing things like this..

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o,O' wow.

...well, in WTF! each guildie can attack neutral tags, but it's still at their own discretion.

We are not, nor ever have been allied with JusT or <TE>... but they're not red (or brown) tagged either.

If i'd been there, i 100% guarantee you i'd have picked some fights ;)
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