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pk or pwnage; last ndd
Topic Started: May 18 2008, 08:09 AM (1,447 Views)
Xarondas
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Last ndd and most days actually when u reach a pk map / arena
u come across 5-6 ppl (most of them from different guilds) waiting , then one attacks if its multi others follow and when it not just wait for u to dis and attack u

Well i can understand that most of u ppl play the game for a long time and u have made friends from all pk guilds
but is this trully helping pk ? Waiting from some 100s getting in the map so 120s-140s can unite and kill them?

maybe i don t know much as said, but when i was at \A/ and all guild where enemies , i remember having more fun instead of chatting in a pk map of how pr0 i am and noone attacks me and pk is dead.

i don t mind getting killed, but honestly just from the looks of it when u enter a arena or map and see 140s not attack each other is kinda disappointing knowning that all they want is from u to enter so whoever gets lucky can have ur pki

I enjoy the game and i play stupid when it comes to that, so i ll continue entering the map or arena even if it gets me killed (I ll learn few stuff on the way though ;) ), but how do u expect from other ppl to enter , ppl who just want to fight and have some fun (even get lucky and get out alive)

I am sorry for my English , it s not my native language
I don t want to flame anyone, i am just asking

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TempesT

ur right.

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Walt_Her

I so much agree with you. When you hit a/d 70's you kind of feel strong (you ain't but hey its a game) and step into pk to try your char and abilitities to fighting... you get owned too many times, it kills more than your char, It kills the fun of fighting.

I even build a char that should be able to stand a while in DPa, ques what. you get attacked and the very same moment all the dpa alts gather around and there is simply no way to survive. Sure that is PK.

But it is kind of stupid of all these fighters, they beat you so hard a normal n00b, like i am, wont go into pk ever. They have hit the joy out of you long before you can even stand a little change to survive.

So therefor the game is becoming a mixing and training game more and more and there simply ain't fighters left who joy the pk.
That is Until they are so strong they wont get killed anymore.

imho the arena's should not let TS allow and have a max on #arm. That way even Radu can have his "mage-class", so ppl can learn how to pk in different ways w/o being slaughtered


just my 2ct's
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TempesT

Walt_Her
May 18 2008, 09:35 AM
But it is kind of stupid of all these fighters, they beat you so hard a normal n00b, like i am, wont go into pk ever. They have hit the joy out of you long before you can even stand a little change to survive.
thats why i don't pk

1) naked ppl
2) people more than 30 a/d lower
3) harvesters.


let them get strong so i get some more enemies ;D
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Korrode
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Wouldn't it be nice if people couldn't TS...
And if there was level limited arenas all the way up the a/d range, in a location they're guaranteed to be used and popular, decreasing the amount of "arena build" chars significantly...

Typing this feels familiar for some reason... ^o)
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Xarondas
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I am talking about how example NC arena works . 4-5 (and more) top a/ders (different guilds) do not to attack each other , gathering around a n00b , waiting to pwn him/her. Instead of pking each other


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Walt_Her

eg.
most of you know Zeddi. my alt with dam strong magic. even with his high vit/will he cant stand against most of dpa fighters. sure he can md lot of them, but as soon as he steps in there are some gathering around him and he get owned, and that is while he is ts'd a lot (a/d is maybe as high as the others.)

But that is not because he's weak, its because i wont make gc on my main and transfer it to him with gc>$>items from the shop and i don't pay $ to get him items he can sell in game so he can get best armour etc.

therefor i would say give the arena's a max #arm too. so nomore tit plate and thermal serp or other great swords. Imho a 40's char cant afford that armour, atleast not in a "normal" way.
I build Zeddi to be a strong mage, i started that before Radu announced he wanted a mage class in game and before the caps and adjustment to the magic spells. And he is a strong mage but can only be played as a mage when he can ambush/drain-harm etc while his guildies are fighting. So its only to support and it goes against my feeling to do that, DPa is single but he can harm/md while others fight so they have a small chance to stand or flee a fight w/o being owned all the time

For my main, its an allrounder so he prob. won't ever stand a change in normal pk. atleast not when ppl jump on it in groups. even the way stronger fighters are imho too chicken to fight by themselfs.
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I agree, its kinda silly how all the 130+ a/d'ers are on friendly terms with each other (well mostly anyways, and those who aren't get picked off by those who are), or how the stronger PK guilds all ally themselves and pick off the weaker ones (or just stand there while their allies PK each other).

I think thats why PK (or PvP as they call it) in WoW is so succesfull at having large battles, because there are only 2 factions fighting each other. Not like in EL where the majority of the PK'ing guilds are all allied in an intricate system that leaves very little space for any new people/guilds to come in (without being destroyed in PK anyways).

I wash my hands in innocence of this though, I almost always PK alone, and I don't spend my time hunting lower lvl PK points, or hiding behind the high lvl's of my guild (which would anyway be pointless, since Asgnny, Aesop, Zia and Badflip rarely PK)

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I agree with alot of what is being said here, but I don't really see a solution. The problem is that there are alot of 130+ chars that are now afraid to die, mainly because of PKI. I too prefer to pk alone, even tho I have some strong guildies, my fights are mine alone. I just use it as motivation to train and work on pk strategy. ;)
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Absoutly right. In today's PK unless you are friendly with the pigs you don't stand a chance because all they do is stand in the arenas and PK maps and gang rape anyone that is weaker then them, and they are allied with so many people its fucking pointless to try and fight these days.

I mean come on things used to be some what even when DoA and Toom were around, but now that they are gone everyone and their fucking brother have decided to ally with the pigs, WTF!, LA, UNIT, etc etc.
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St_Arcane
May 18 2008, 12:00 PM
I agree, its kinda silly how all the 130+ a/d'ers are on friendly terms with each other
This has been my biggest gripe for ages, and is the only reason WTF! has ended up with more than the originally planned 1-2 allies max.
You're either allied with ^@^ and most of their allies, or allied with none. We, with no one actually quite even into 120's a/d yet, would just get slapped out of NCa every time.

Although, apparently NaC, without even informing us, ended our non-attack pact and started attacking us.
Fucking lowlifes.

As of now they've been set red and will stay that way. Considering certain stipulations from ^@^ when i applied for NAP with them in the first place, i'm very confident this will result in ^@^ breaking NAP with us too.

By next NDD it'll probably (perhaps hopefully) be an allyless WTF!
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St_Arcane
May 18 2008, 12:00 PM

or hiding behind the high lvl's of my guild (which would anyway be pointless, since Asgnny, Aesop, Zia and Badflip rarely PK)

You can hide behind me when you come back St. :P

Totally agree with the comments made.... PK is dead.. yes because everyone is your allie \o/



but some ppl's B$ fooks me off , people from certain *coughs* HardCore guilds posting about allies, but when its 6 (from 3 diff guilds) vs Me in TD they dont have a problem with it
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Ozmondius

Definitely time to take another look at LION's ally/enemy list. I love to fight and yesterday was just fekking ridiculous.
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rauch

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May 19 2008, 07:44 AM
Definitely time to take another look at LION's ally/enemy list. I love to fight and yesterday was just fekking ridiculous.


So you seem to agree with Xarondas? Then take a look at your own guildies first, they behave exactly the way Xarondas said.

This is no complaint and I don't intend to whine, but I have to agree with Xarondas strongly in this.
When you enter NC Arena after asking someone equal for an FF and during FF 2 much stronger guys (both from LION, yes) than me and my opponent are just waiting to catch whoever wins, then that really sucks hard. Can't those guys search themself an opponent about the same strength?

And then everybody complains about dead PK :huh:

Same about entering KF, you enter and have one to three guys instantly on you trying to kill you. Well, that's PK and I won't whine about it, but if people won't change, PK will be soon completely dead as more old PKers will leave and no new ones go into PK because of this.

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TempesT

rauch..your post just showed how much of a noob you are.
"cant those people find equal enemies for them"... is it PK map or PKE map?
Player kill doesn't mean to kill players over your a/d, if you enter a pk map you survive or you fuckin die, easy as that.

and for every fucker who comes here with "omg he attacked me"... taste my brod bitch.


i was in KF for like 3 hours yesterday and pmed every single fucker in the top 50 to come to KF.. ask smurf how many were actually there. i even posted in channel 6 and 4.
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TempesT
May 19 2008, 01:20 PM
rauch..your post just showed how much of a noob you are.
"cant those people find equal enemies for them"... is it PK map or PKE map?
Player kill doesn't mean to kill players over your a/d, if you enter a pk map you survive or you fuckin die, easy as that.

and for every fucker who comes here with "omg he attacked me"... taste my brod bitch.


i was in KF for like 3 hours yesterday and pmed every single fucker in the top 50 to come to KF.. ask smurf how many were actually there. i even posted in channel 6 and 4.
Sure, call me noob, that's what I am when it comes to PK and I freely admit that.
But there is still the little word "honour" and what honour is there in killing noobs?
What honour is there about waiting for an FF to finish and kill the winner?

(Yes, I am a bit oldstylish here when it comes to this, but there are at least some PKers who have the balls to go in PK and the honour to leave noobs like me alone)

I don't complain about being attacked (hey, it was NDD, who cares), I complain about people luring for an easy kill on noobs and running from others with same a/d. Call them cowards, call them ebul PKers, call them whatever you want, yes, it's PK.

I (how others call it) had the balls and entered PK with loads of higher levels in there. It was fun looking at 10 people standing around in KF waiting for a noob (like me) to kill it.

btw. PKed one on that day (the FF mentioned earlier) and got PKed 5 times by high levels. Now go on and flame me, you won't see me in PK again until this attitude changes ^^

Yes, PK is dead, and people with this attitude should think about why :P
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Ozmondius

Rauch is also your ingame name? Never seen you b4, i think.
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May 19 2008, 02:17 PM
Rauch is also your ingame name? Never seen you b4, i think.
yes, it is. Most likely b/c I am not in PK normally, but I have seen you from time to time running around.

Edit: This specific case has been solved ingame with Ozmondius, tyvm :)
Edited by rauch, May 19 2008, 02:41 PM.
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rauch
May 19 2008, 01:37 PM

But there is still the little word "honour" and what honour is there in killing noobs?
What honour is there about waiting for an FF to finish and kill the winner?

Yes, PK is dead, and people with this attitude should think about why :P
only gonna answer those 2 things, since ur basicly asking for a response lol.

in PK there is NO honor, look at old videos.. everyone fights everyone.. not like "hey oh you fight.. ok im not gonna attack you then i'm a nice guy" .. ffs this is a game, a PK map is designed to attack others and not to have friendly fights with others around your level. THIS IS NOT REAL LIFE, and even if it was.. then just imagine someone like "oh hey, i won't beat you up, ur 1 year younger than me it's unfair"

and why pk is dead... 2-3 years ago people attacked every moving noob too and pk wasnt dead, so ur comment is just a load of nonsense coming from someone who is tired of dieing while entering KF 1 time a year.
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