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KF or NC ND?
Topic Started: Mar 17 2009, 11:10 PM (3,606 Views)
SenZon
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i love korrodes epic post :wub:
Never touch a black man radio
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Mar 20 2009, 02:18 AM
i love korrodes epic post :wub:
i luv u :wub:
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Aislar
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nice post, someone should move this to main <3

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edit: i'm referring to korrode's post <3
Edited by Aislar, Mar 20 2009, 02:21 AM.
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SenZon
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i luv you t00 @tali :wub:
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Infamous
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korrode attacking during pvp is/was frowned upon, but if you put it like that then let me come back at u with another thought out/bs post.

broding degrades the opponents armor making it easier to win vs them, good pk strategy no?

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Player Killing map, by definition you should not be going there if you're not willing to accept the risk of being killed by a player.


i agree on that, but same goes for brod, dont wanna get brod? dont go there then

2nd edit: tbh its pointless to argue, in the end its just your opinion against ours, we both seem to disagree so why bother?
Edited by Infamous, Mar 20 2009, 02:40 AM.
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Mar 20 2009, 02:30 AM
korrode attacking during pvp is/was frowned upon, but if you put it like that then let me come back at u with another thought out/bs post.
Attacking PvP'ers can be 'frowned upon' (although it should be less so nowdays with the advent of guarded guild maps, remote PK areas and no drops PK areas, as opposed to 'the old days' when there was KF and a couple of arenas as the only PK areas)... but nonetheless, as i already said (see 'EDIT2' on the epic post), responding to it with usage of the (unbalanced) BRoD is unwarranted.

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broding degrades the opponents armor making it easier to win vs them, good pk strategy no?

Yes, good PK strategy. Maybe we should all just start BRoD'ing everyone and anyone? ^^

The point, of which i've already made, is that due to other factors (primarily the cost of competitive PK equipment in EL), the BRoD is unbalanced. The grief it can cause a person is far too high, and we as players should be doing all we can to compensate for this.
(EDIT: and any guild that has rules against serping, broding, etc. random people (which =Hc= is meant to no?), is already helping to compensate... you already agree with me :P )

Thus in my opinion, usage of unbalanced extreme-grief causing features should only be in response to those features being used against you.

...all i've done in this post is repeat myself, if you're going to continue to debate this please come up with new arguments containing points i haven't already addressed.

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i agree on that, but same goes for brod, dont wanna get brod? dont go there then
Again i'll repeat; we as players need to compensate for game issues because the developer, for whatever reason, is unwilling to.

So we should make it so going in PK areas doesn't automatically equate to risk of being BRoDed.

Sqwurl
 
2nd edit: tbh its pointless to argue, in the end its just your opinion against ours, we both seem to disagree so why bother?

Because my opinion is based solidly in logic and common sense.
Thus; my opinion > your opinion :)


Because with further debate we may be able to actually learn something from each other's opinions. :wub: :X
Edited by Korrode, Mar 20 2009, 03:01 AM.
"How can one ordinary man have so many enemies?"
"I'm a people person... who drinks."
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Infamous
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your opinion "owns" ours cause you seem to think everyone should share your thoughts on stuff, if they dont then your posts automaticly are superior to everyone elses.

i admit though, your right on the whole brod thing. but we consider killing pvp'ers as something you would do against brown tags and we got pked during pvp, and cause in our opinion its something you'd do to brown tags we responded by brown tagging them.
dont wanna be brown tagged? then dont provoke it.

why hate on us for having our own ruleset/beliefs and not sharing yours?

edit: if you disagree on our brown tagging then do something about it, try and work it out, make a topic on our forums or something.
just disagreeing/bashing eachother in a discussion that cant be won isnt helping anything

Edited by Infamous, Mar 20 2009, 03:04 AM.
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Mar 20 2009, 03:00 AM
why hate on us for having our own ruleset/beliefs and not sharing yours?
Firstly, that's usually why most 'hating on' would be happening.

Secondly, because your ruleset/beliefs impact on my (and all PK'ers) EL life.

I'm a Libertarian and am an extremely strong believer in peoples right to freedom and to live their life how they see fit, so long as it's not interfering with the lives of others.

If a person wants to sit in their house and shoot up heroin, i'm fine with that, i dont think it should be illegal, it's their life, their choice and it doesn't affect me.
Just as i don't care about the #gm conduct rules of other guilds whether i agree with them or not, because it doesn't impact on my EL life at all.

Anyone living their EL life by same rules as i do (which allows attacking PvP'ers; the game administration endorsed (and on the Official forums, enforced) stance)... and you living your EL life by your rules (which includes responding to such with BRoD'ing) will be impacted with extreme grief due to your rules/beliefs.

You cant claim 'hate-on for beliefs victim' when your beliefs impact others with differing beliefs.

EDIT: added a few things

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Sqwurl
 
if you disagree on our brown tagging then do something about it, try and work it out
That's exactly what i'm doing, i'm presenting you with reasoning as to why BRoD tagging for being attacked while PvP'ing is unwarranted.

I can copy and paste it all onto you guild forums if you like (although the admins on your guid forums have in the past edited my posts to make it look like i said something i didn't, which is despicable, so i'm reluctant to post there)... but i dont see the point, you, Zaer, etc. are here now, reading this :P
Edited by Korrode, Mar 20 2009, 03:27 AM.
"How can one ordinary man have so many enemies?"
"I'm a people person... who drinks."
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Infamous
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well yeah, you do something about it, but the ones who were brown tagged dont.
instead of just discussing it normally it gets posted here, "pr0est guild in EL" being sarcasticly and telling us were whiners isnt helping much.
its just encouraging to keep the colors as they are now

Edited by Infamous, Mar 20 2009, 03:28 AM.
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The prince of peace embraced the gloom
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Fair enough.

You could ofc take action based on the presented reasoning here, but yeah if you're not going to do that it's up to the affected guild to take the points to you directly. I'm out.

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*clinks* \o/
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Mar 20 2009, 03:27 AM
well yeah, you do something about it, but the ones who were brown tagged dont.
instead of just discussing it normally it gets posted here, "pr0est guild in EL" being sarcasticly and telling us were whiners isnt helping much.
its just encouraging to keep the colors as they are now

without wanting to make this into a therapeutic treehugging thread:

LION spoke to =HC= prior to the incident that caused you to shittag us for the second time in 2 or 3 days, the first time being after somehow, inspite of me posting on YOUR forum that LION doesn't even bother with shittags, =HC= concluded that LION had you browtagged so you all wanted to do the same. I spoke to Nahtepa AT LENGTH that day, and he let you know about that in the same thread on your forum. Also after Dugur harmed Ragz and Boedha, I know for a fact that we spoke to Ragz, and Oz later spoke to Nahtepa as well.

It is LION's belief that PKing someone in a public PK map is completely within the game, AND community rules. Different guilds, different views, it´s all ok, but if you somehow would like to resolve this, feel free to contact myself or Oz in game for a reasonable talk (I'm sure you remember having those with us up untill a few months ago, no?)

PS 'pr0est PK guild in EL´ is what you and your guildies picture yourselves to be, in game and on forums, if me using that term is in any way sarcastic, then first look at yourselves before pointing at me.
Edited by Dilly, Mar 20 2009, 04:22 AM.
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Mar 20 2009, 03:27 AM
well yeah, you do something about it, but the ones who were brown tagged dont.
instead of just discussing it normally it gets posted here, "pr0est guild in EL" being sarcasticly and telling us were whiners isnt helping much.
its just encouraging to keep the colors as they are now



not true, theres a topic with hai!'s name on it

edit: and when you make it hard enough to remove a brown-tagged guild that shouldn't have been brown-tagged in the first place, makes it even more annoying to try for a second time, which is i guess your idea.

by "shouldn't have been brown-tagged in the first place" i'm referring to brown-tagging hai! because smurf had broded =hc= while he was still in wWw-a guild that was already in the middle of a brod war with =hc= (and you guys made it DAMN hard to get hai's brown tag removed, even AFTER the goddamn titanium shield was replaced)
Edited by Aislar, Mar 20 2009, 04:22 AM.
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zaer
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soooo my argument still stands.

All your points are based upon your opinions. So are ours. We recognised this aeons ago and have stuck to that argument since. You appear not to be able to accept this and keep on trying to prove that us being ourselves is somehow bad. No-one cares whether you think we're the best PK guild or not, it is in NO way relevent to this discussion. Yet you always want to bring it up? :S

oh and Aislar, I did remove Hai!'s brown tag after the discussion on our forums, but it was redone after you earned it again. :<
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Mar 20 2009, 01:59 AM
yea you fail at logic :(

You're making a shitty arguemnt based on warped logic to try and appear superior. You aren't.

Come back with a properly considered and thought out arguement or just gtfo. Why waste my time with drivel like this? Ass.

Oh, and if you'd been around for as long as us you'd know frowning on killing pvpers is a very old and respected community rule. Calling it the same as normal PK is quite frankly stupid.

[drunk post which still pwns. Win./]
dude, i'm suprised you managed to write that in your state ;d
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Mar 19 2009, 02:18 AM
your dog needs to stay quiet on skype :P
so true

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lol @ brown tagging for being attacked in a PK map.

really pathetic.


yea - you'd think they could find someplace safe after i have killed boedha/tyra/sqwurl (and some of their pvp partners too) multiple times - without much effort :P oh well more rosts for radu ;)
My sympathy is Ltd (Pty).
Just for tonight, forget what is right.

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without much effort lol, first time i almost broded you :P
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http://www.explosm.net/comics/167/
yea red cape broke earlier that day, forgot to replace it #.#"

and lol at you and boed on II yesterday :P i formatted my PC recently, and i didn't have my spells set up right yet :P so close....yet so far ^^

EDIT: realized i haven't voted, where is the idc option? :P
Edited by Sonic, Mar 20 2009, 12:54 PM.
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Mar 20 2009, 07:49 AM
oh and Aislar, I did remove Hai!'s brown tag after the discussion on our forums, but it was redone after you earned it again. :<
yes, by pking on a pk map <3

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