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KF or NC ND?
Topic Started: Mar 17 2009, 11:10 PM (3,607 Views)
Infamous
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your dog needs to stay quiet on skype :P
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kav
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lol he can talk to his dog on skype. mine can't :*(. wtb senzons dog \o/
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Korrode
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lol @ brown tagging for being attacked in a PK map.

really pathetic.
"How can one ordinary man have so many enemies?"
"I'm a people person... who drinks."
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My dog haz cheexburgurz pl0x. :D
Edited by LiquiD, Mar 19 2009, 10:10 AM.
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Korrode
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no
"How can one ordinary man have so many enemies?"
"I'm a people person... who drinks."
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Yes.
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-,-
"How can one ordinary man have so many enemies?"
"I'm a people person... who drinks."
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CHECK OUT MY PENIS!
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LOL.
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Mar 19 2009, 10:00 AM
lol @ brown tagging for being attacked in a PK map.

really pathetic.
do u know wat exactly happened?
they were atatck when pvping.
&& if u call this pathethic then u dont kare if ur guildies get attack'd when their pvping??
isnt this similiar to spawn serping? cause ur training on someone then someone else comes & attacks that person; so that's very close to spawn serping?

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brown-tagging a guild because members of YOUR guild got pked, no matter what they were doing, just makes you guys look like whiny bitches.


attacking pvpers isnt honarable Pk.. BroDing isnt honarable Pk....
see anything similar? :P

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brod for a brod, dude :P


dont be like that hun, spread <3 not war ^_^

PS. just pointing out wat i see ;)
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Korrode, you haz cheez burg0rz?
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i ate one at mcdonald's today :D
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:banplz: McyD rox
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TigerClaw
Mar 19 2009, 04:15 PM
Korrode
Mar 19 2009, 10:00 AM
lol @ brown tagging for being attacked in a PK map.

really pathetic.
do u know wat exactly happened?
they were atatck when pvping.
&& if u call this pathethic then u dont kare if ur guildies get attack'd when their pvping??
isnt this similiar to spawn serping? cause ur training on someone then someone else comes & attacks that person; so that's very close to spawn serping?

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brown-tagging a guild because members of YOUR guild got pked, no matter what they were doing, just makes you guys look like whiny bitches.


attacking pvpers isnt honarable Pk.. BroDing isnt honarable Pk....
see anything similar? :P

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brod for a brod, dude :P


dont be like that hun, spread <3 not war ^_^

PS. just pointing out wat i see ;)
stfu, kk?

If i were to post a thread in outlaws (or even here) about how someone killed me when I was pvping, I would be flamed into oblivion.
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DesweeR
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I agreez
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Korrode
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Mar 19 2009, 04:15 PM
&& if u call this pathethic then u dont kare if ur guildies get attack'd when their pvping??
That's right, if a guildie gets attacked in PK we dont complain.
You see, we're not crying babies.

TigerClaw
 
isnt this similiar to spawn serping?

No.
Please tell me i dont need to explain how attacking players training in a PK map is very different to spawn serping in non-PK maps...

TigerClaw
 
attacking pvpers isnt honarable Pk.. BroDing isnt honarable Pk....
see anything similar? :P

No. I don't see anything similar.
Killing Players in Player Killing maps is just game-play.
BRoD'ing is using an item specifically designed to cause much grief during a PK fight.


Anyways Tigerpaw, stfu.
tbh i am really surprised that =Hc= would complain for being attacked while PvP'ing...
There's many retarded things =Hc= could do that wouldn't surprise me at all, but this wasn't one of them... i mean, wtf?! you're meant to be a PK guild, it's a PK map, seriously, grow up.
"How can one ordinary man have so many enemies?"
"I'm a people person... who drinks."
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tbh u fail to see that we arent complaining, this is how it went "lol, brown tag?" "sure ^^" dont see any complaining in that :)
and another thing, if pvp killing is normal cause its killing in a pk map, then broding is too, since its just using an item thats meant for pk.

this whole discussion makes no sense, calling us whiners while u complain/whine at the "complainers"? :P
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zaer
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yea you fail at logic :(

You're making a shitty arguemnt based on warped logic to try and appear superior. You aren't.

Come back with a properly considered and thought out arguement or just gtfo. Why waste my time with drivel like this? Ass.

Oh, and if you'd been around for as long as us you'd know frowning on killing pvpers is a very old and respected community rule. Calling it the same as normal PK is quite frankly stupid.

[drunk post which still pwns. Win./]
coolbeans.
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Korrode
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kk i'll rephrase;

Responding to being attacked in PK with BRoD'ing is pathetic.


As for your 'then BRoD'ing is normal too' argument;
(EDIT: Warning; epicness)
The BRoD has a specific design, being to break armor.
It's a part of the game, just as harvesting events that move people off bags are... what's up to individual is if they want to utilise these things specifically designed by the game creator to cause grief. Most MMO's do not contain items or circumstances that are designed so a player can cause extreme grief to the other players, it's very bad game design because you allow players with social issues to reduce the enjoyment factor for everyone else; which unequivocally could only hinder playerbase expansion.

That said, as with any competitive game, there still needs to be winners and losers. Some people will complain about absolutely anything that allows another player to 'win' VS them.

eg. Some hydro miners seriously and loudly complain about being attacked on hydro runs, these people are almost always near-non-fighters. They don't want to play an adventure game, where there's risk, trials, winners and losers... they basically just want to play a numbers game where they just go through a process and see a dictated end result... to me it sounds extremely boring.

One of the most important aspects of game design is balance.

There needs to be losers, but when they lose it needs to hurt just the right amount so that their not put off from the game and are actually enthused to developer their char and shift the win/lose ratio.

There needs to be winners, and when they win they need to get a reward, but the reward must only be big enough to put a smile on their face, not so big that it allows them to further advance their char at an even faster rate.

Radu, with certain aspects of EL, either doesn't understand this or doesn't care about this... leaving players to try and draws lines on what is and isn't acceptable, an approach which the EL administration seems to actually support.

Now, if we can all agree that BRoD'ing for absolutely no reason is 'too harsh' (i mean BRoD'ing someone you've never met or heard of before in a guild you've never seen before), which it seems most of us do (incl. =Hc=, right?) then that clearly shows that the BRoD is one of those instances where the players need to compensate for the unbalanced game design.

Attacking players in PK maps on the other hand (irrelevant of their purpose there), in my opinion, is not something that's unbalanced and does not cause undue grief. Now, this is my opinion, but you cant really argue against this point because it's called a Player Killing map, by definition you should not be going there if you're not willing to accept the risk of being killed by a player.

The game administration even decided it is not up to the community to deem simple killing of people in PK maps as Outlaw (as reflected in Disputes forum rules), the reason being that it's not unbalanced, and frankly is ridiculous, because that is the purpose of the area.

Hopefully you're now enlightened, Sqwurl.

EDIT: Zaer posted while i was.
Hopefully you too are now enlightened, Zaer, and you wanted a thought out and detailed response, well you got it, bitch :)

EDIT2:
In addition, you can be more annoyed than usual that you were attacked whilst PvP'ing, sure, but you can't deny it's a balanced part of gameplay. The point i'm making is not that you shouldn't be annoyed, it's that you shouldn't respond with usage of unbalanced features.
Respond within the balanced features;
Prioritise attacking the offender/guild, put out a bounty for info on their PvP location/time, etc.
Edited by Korrode, Mar 20 2009, 02:19 AM.
"How can one ordinary man have so many enemies?"
"I'm a people person... who drinks."
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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA TC

taking funny angle myspace pics for a friggin game forum!!!!1

oh ur funnny <3 keep it up pls
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TigerClaw
Mar 19 2009, 04:15 PM
Korrode
Mar 19 2009, 10:00 AM
lol @ brown tagging for being attacked in a PK map.

really pathetic.
do u know wat exactly happened?
they were atatck when pvping.
&& if u call this pathethic then u dont kare if ur guildies get attack'd when their pvping??
isnt this similiar to spawn serping? cause ur training on someone then someone else comes & attacks that person; so that's very close to spawn serping?

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brown-tagging a guild because members of YOUR guild got pked, no matter what they were doing, just makes you guys look like whiny bitches.


attacking pvpers isnt honarable Pk.. BroDing isnt honarable Pk....
see anything similar? :P

Quote:
 
brod for a brod, dude :P


dont be like that hun, spread <3 not war ^_^

PS. just pointing out wat i see ;)
btw that's KF which is a PK map...wtf

like the mods always say "if you dun want to get tacked...dun go in PK map pls"

lawl
Edited by TalixiM, Mar 20 2009, 02:12 AM.
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