Improved Chips and New

Improved Chips and New
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Mukuro	Dec 11 2011, 02:33 AM Post #1
Super Saiyan 2 Posts: 467 Group: Member Member #3,517 Joined: Nov 20, 2011	So yea chips sold at geros lab can be improved... next to it is a recipe shop ( THESE ARE NON STACKABLE! ) Improved Speed chip: Rocket Boots + Speed Chip Description: A much faster chip than speed . Effects: Grants 20% more speed than speed chip Improved Stamina chip : Chicken + Stamina Description: A much more better chip than stamina. Effect: Grants .10 regen Improved Blast chip : blast + blast Description: A much more better chip than blast. Effect: Grants 5 ki and 10% - 20% spell more dmg Improved Power chip: Slug Essence + power Description: A much better chip than power Effect: Grants 50% power if clicked on for 10 sec. While not clicked 30% New Chip.. : Name: Spell reduc chip Description: Reduces spell dmg Effect: Grants 20% spell reduction. Improved Spell reduct chip : Magic coat + spell reduc Description: A much better chip than spell reduct Effects: Grants 40% spell reduct Edited by Mukuro, Dec 11 2011, 02:44 PM.
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Ak1995	Dec 11 2011, 02:44 AM Post #2
★ Emperor Of Weak★ Posts: 2,636 Group: Moderator Member #3,193 Joined: Jul 21, 2011 Battle.net account Ak1995	and for androids, Computer chip :D Not a bad idea. But i wint let the bonuses be so high, it could really change the balance.
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Mukuro	Dec 11 2011, 02:48 AM Post #3
Super Saiyan 2 Posts: 467 Group: Member Member #3,517 Joined: Nov 20, 2011	Very true mb I was too tired to see that
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Ayraclus	Dec 11 2011, 06:14 AM Post #4
Hellraiser Posts: 1,431 Group: Former Project Leader Member #3,416 Joined: Oct 9, 2011	The bonuses are WAY too high. Also, the hand of cold is more useful than the improved chip imho. I'll read again tomorrow to give you a better response. (A more elaborated response lol)
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Mukuro	Dec 11 2011, 12:55 PM Post #5
Super Saiyan 2 Posts: 467 Group: Member Member #3,517 Joined: Nov 20, 2011	Tell me.. Is it nerfed enough? Edited by Mukuro, Dec 11 2011, 01:09 PM.
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Demoknis	Dec 11 2011, 03:20 PM Post #6
ponders Posts: 865 Group: Super Member Member #1,256 Joined: Aug 1, 2010	Stamina chip REALLY doesn't need to be changed at all. If the stamina chip was to be changed I would suggest combining it with the other chip to make a dual purpose chip but nothing else. The power chip is a bit much as well even if you need slugs essence for it. I suggest 35% and 20% respectively. Spell resist is way out of proportion. If someone had the upgraded spell resist they would essentially be SIGNIFICANTLY harder for someone like Frieza to deal with. 15% and 25% respectively are much more balanced (although I stillt believe that's pushing it.) There could be a drawback to using it like with using weighted clothing though to balance it out. I personally DO like the speed chip however. I've always had a problem with ms in this game no matter how fast I go. I'm not quite sure where you're coming at with the "improved blast chip". What does the 5 ki imply? An additional 5 ki per blast? If so that is way out of proportion. If it's just a fixed 5 ki you could make that much in a single blast so I find that quite pointless as well. Additional blast damage isn't such a bad idea to add to on top of additional ki made per blast. The main issue I want to adress is that this game doesn't become completely item oriented. It's bad enough that I get screwed over by Fruits of Might if I somehow don't manage to get Turles. I don't really want to end up a failure because I just didn't have the right items.
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Ayraclus	Dec 11 2011, 06:37 PM Post #7
Hellraiser Posts: 1,431 Group: Former Project Leader Member #3,416 Joined: Oct 9, 2011	Ok. MS is a key factor in the map. Nuke too much, you don't run. Some characters (Tien, super17, Goku) Have some serious advantages in that field. It will stay that way. "TROLOLOL EVERYONE RUNS 522" maps suck most (if not all) of the time. 40% spell reduction is just insane. Seriously. Same with 50% bonus damage. Why not give Kyodaka to everyone? The stamina chip already gave 0.5, now you say the improved one gives 0.1. No offense intended, but you need to learn more about the map before suggesting stuff. Offtopic: Demok, Fruits of might are NOT that powerful, won't get nerfed, won't get removed. They DON'T win games. If you know the other one has the fruit, buy a chicken. The only game-defining item on the map is 16's box, and I won't touch it. On the other hand, the map won't become item oriented so don't lose sleep over that. Edited by Ayraclus, Dec 11 2011, 06:40 PM.
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Darth_Jhan	Dec 11 2011, 06:57 PM Post #8
Look at my perfect teeth Posts: 3,310 Group: Super Member Member #2,177 Joined: Jan 12, 2011	My only concern on the fruit of might is when picc, or cell have it. It really makes it hard to kill them. Other characters I don't mind so much since I'll actually go after them and force them to use it, then run away and repeat.
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Ayraclus	Dec 11 2011, 07:11 PM Post #9
Hellraiser Posts: 1,431 Group: Former Project Leader Member #3,416 Joined: Oct 9, 2011	You can do the exact same thing with those cell or piccoro. If they got the fruit in the first place, you need to pay a little more attention. Now let's please stay on topic here. These ideas are kinda green, so I'll just wait for a counter argument from FutureGohanz on why they should be on the map and a tweak on the proposal. Edited by Ayraclus, Dec 11 2011, 07:18 PM.
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ForTiNeRo	Dec 11 2011, 07:14 PM Post #10
Taking over the world Posts: 3,565 Group: Former Project Leader Member #3,412 Joined: Oct 8, 2011 Battle.net account ForTiNeRo	adding lotz of fancy items, and changing the name for "DBZ DotA" by next year, yea.. I always thought this map has lots of items. they add some more tacticall stuff, but I dont share this idea, I dont want the items to be the most important part of the gameplay. stamina's regen is insane right now, you cant let all chars running arround with regen like buu's. about the blast chip, if you know how to play fairly good, you will always get great ki withous chip, and when useing the chip, ki is usually overkill. Edited by ForTiNeRo, Dec 11 2011, 07:42 PM.
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Darth_Jhan	Dec 12 2011, 04:41 AM Post #11
Look at my perfect teeth Posts: 3,310 Group: Super Member Member #2,177 Joined: Jan 12, 2011	IMHO The chips are fine the way they are, they don't make us win the game nor are they worthless, though some are overlooked. If anything adding new chips would be more viable or adding additional boss items like 16's box which was an amazing addition.
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Ayraclus	Dec 12 2011, 06:47 AM Post #12
Hellraiser Posts: 1,431 Group: Former Project Leader Member #3,416 Joined: Oct 9, 2011	I have mixed feelings in this. So I feel another poll is coming. On one hand, they do add tactical value to everything you do and usually take a very important place in decision making early game. On the other hand, lacking a speed chip during a battle against someone means you are as good as dead, which doesn't seem like a good thing to me. Same with Sta chips, Going "TROLOLOLOL" trough a mob of rildo tanks knowing you'll get the 30% hp you just lost in 60 seconds is just plain wrong. Removing them, however, will make it impossible for people to get back on their feet if they lag behind.
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Darth_Jhan	Dec 12 2011, 07:05 AM Post #13
Look at my perfect teeth Posts: 3,310 Group: Super Member Member #2,177 Joined: Jan 12, 2011	Yeah I'm saying that these items are not game winners like the uber items in Dota. The one only item I would like to be added would be extra experience gain chip (name can be anything). How much of a gain is up for discussion, and will wait to explain more of it till the said poll comes up, unless you want an explanation of its advantages and disadvantages. Edited by Darth_Jhan, Dec 12 2011, 07:09 AM.
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Ayraclus	Dec 12 2011, 07:38 AM Post #14
Hellraiser Posts: 1,431 Group: Former Project Leader Member #3,416 Joined: Oct 9, 2011	If it's implemented it would be a no-brainer, everyone and their cat's will want one. I would like to hear more about the possible dissadvantages and perks and quirks and whatever you want to add to the concept tho.
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Darth_Jhan	Dec 12 2011, 08:43 AM Post #15
Look at my perfect teeth Posts: 3,310 Group: Super Member Member #2,177 Joined: Jan 12, 2011	Make it expensive to whatever you feel is appropriate for such an item. Or make it a two (or more) part item thus taking up two slots (or more), the separate items does absolutely nothing for you. This way, the players would have to think if getting the exp gain item is worth sacrificing the items they may have not to mention the DB hunters which need an empty slot at all times (DB included). This item would have a negative affect on your stats where the stat gain would decrease by 15% (like Saiyan Pride, but the opposite). These are what I have in mind now.
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