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Jun 7 2011, 02:17 AM
Buff Tourney stat gains each round by 20 so 30 stats each round
Give Ft`s sword a longer CD cuz its kinda op if u spam it alot
Oozaru Mouth Blasts is fucking op i took alot of yaos down with it nerf it down a lil.
Buff up Fat buu a lil cuz he cant get raditz and nappa.
Goku`s spirit ball buffed a lil.
And I agree with Xeius and Demoknis bebi needs a buff!
Hell Tickets Drop more often cuz ppl whine Goz and Mez r too op.


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Sense should be replaced because ppl hardly any1 uses it by
Evasion all heroes 15%
I feel like offering my opinion on this.

The tourny to me only seems like it could use a boost when I have the choice to do other things. For example if I was Cell I would keep absorbing and skip the tourny because I would have guaranteed stats. So rather than increasing the stats, a more convenient compromise would be to grant "guaranteed" stats. What I mean by this is that you should gain some stats by entering the tourny. I find it really annoying when I enter a tourny ahead of everyone, get only ONE fight and end up behind everyone. A buff of about 1-2 tourny fights in stats when you enter the tournament would be a good way to decrease the gamble.

FT's sword is being changed for 4.9 already

Oozaru is hardly used at the moment tbh. Vegeta loses his basics if he uses it so alot of Vegeta players don't use it now. What evil player is letting Gohan farm Yao?

Fat Buu is being buffed a tad in 4.9

Spirit Ball is pretty much one of the strongest nukes in the game already, it's easy to hit with, and has a fast casting time. Spirit Ball makes Final Flash look like an even more ineffective nuke than it already is. Seriously, Final Flash is basically only good for nuking a saga before you randomly rush in and kill them. Spirit Ball can be used during the fight and has a great chance of hitting them and probably killing them if you have good ki.

I have never gotten a Hell Ticket to drop for me. I have seen one and heard stories about them but I have never personally gotten any. I don't usually sit in hell though so that might be my problem.



Edit: My main idea here is to give stats for entering the tourny to reduce the gamble.
EdIt2: Or consolation stats for if you lose... that would work too.
Edited by Demoknis, Jun 7 2011, 02:51 AM.
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Jun 6 2011, 10:38 PM
My Idea:
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we have tried that before, its just not cool, because lets say you wanna cast a kame, BAM you teleport and interrupt it and now your dead lolol

it just got insanly annoying late game lol
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Jun 7 2011, 02:17 AM
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Excuse me? I didn't quite get that. What was my name again? Last I checked my name here is with a L, and that the only reason I had it with an i on wc3 is because XeLus was taken at the time. And the reason I used an i was to look nearly identical to Xelus. Another reason I still use Xeius>Xelus is because my shamanship and adminship is both on that account. One more tip, don't dare call me Xeius ingame, I've been touchy on it. This also refers to calling me XeIus with a capitalized i.
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ive goten 3 helltickets from the games ive played, they aren't a mythical creature, so idk the probs you guys are having with them.
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In a game I given up on, where I was like 3k compared to the 15k Majin Vegeta, like 5 tickets dropped. Smashed them all to prevent the game from pointlessly carrying on. Had to tk the same people like 5 times, and they still kept finding tickets or getting past goz and mez.

So yeah, they aren't Impossible to get, it's all luck.
And another idea, deactivate the use of absorbtion barrier in hell. 17 shouldn't be stronger than me, who was 700 stats as 17. Where I was a 2600 SS Goku who got all the sagas and dballs and hit ss2 about the time he went super 17. Where he gained thousands upon thousands of stats in about 5 minutes if not less from just patroling gero and/or goz and mez.
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Jun 7 2011, 02:17 AM
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Sense should be replaced because ppl hardly any1 uses it by
Evasion all heroes 15%
That's your fault for not using it. It only costs 2 mana and has a short cooldown. No reason not to use it if you think an evil is close by ( fresh blast marks on ground / *crushing* appearing on screen).


and a passive ability like evasion is just boring :-/

Edit to input some Brainstorming:

-Rework Gigantic Press to be more like Bardock's (c) ability whatever its called. That way it won't glitch as often possibly.

- prevent Stubbornness from negating machine damage

- prevent super 17 from getting stats from absorbing machine damage

- Give Janemba some love. If a Baby actually meets the requirements for him, then he's better off staying Baby rather than get a stat boost, loose his chaos damage, and gain a buggy teleport. Possibly give Janemba Chaos damage (that might be too much though)

- Somehow stop 18 from proccing Sadistic 18 off of Popo. Unlike buu who will be at red health popo fagging, she can stay at full health and will be ready to fight a Z fighter that comes in.


FT gets nuged whenever he uses Shining Sword, but the nudge can either get him closer to the desired target or farther away slightly.

- Change Shining Sword to require a target like it used to (click ability and click a target), but keep the animation/effect the same and have him be nudged toward the desired target.

- Prevent Olibu from spawning when Gogeta steps on his circle

- If Space allows, add a new mode (or just get rid of Free Mode to make space) that is EXACTLY like normal mode except that victory conditions are disabled until after Dr. Gero Saga. That should let games last a little bit longer without letting it go on forever and won't effect normal mode at all.

- Fix Uubs rage =)

- Rework lightning arrow to something that isn't depressing. Or at the least allow the arrows to stun targets hit by it for 1 second so that another arrow *might* hit.


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Jun 7 2011, 02:51 AM
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Excuse me? I didn't quite get that. What was my name again? Last I checked my name here is with a L, and that the only reason I had it with an i on wc3 is because XeLus was taken at the time. And the reason I used an i was to look nearly identical to Xelus. Another reason I still use Xeius>Xelus is because my shamanship and adminship is both on that account. One more tip, don't dare call me Xeius ingame, I've been touchy on it. This also refers to calling me XeIus with a capitalized i.
Sry `bout that Whites being calling u Xelus with the i lately and soo i got used to it -_-
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I want a good 200% buffer slug, cooler, and turles saga. Once you beat slug you can easily get through turles, then you need like 3k more stats to take on 13... So I want that gap filled.
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I agree, I'm like surprised as to how fast the bonus sagas are being done up until 13. Someone like Goku can do all the bonus sagas non stop when he has ss starting at slug, then needs like ss2 to take on 13.
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Jun 7 2011, 02:42 AM
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My Idea:
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we have tried that before, its just not cool, because lets say you wanna cast a kame, BAM you teleport and interrupt it and now your dead lolol

it just got insanly annoying late game lol
Oh you did Avarize, sorry to hear it did not work out (it sounded cool) but you actually tested it. (and it was a NO - GO)

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yeah, i implented it at the same time i implented the "crushing" in the map, but we had to take it out cause late game just keept teleporting all over the place xD
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-Make SBC explode on contact because the enemy would just easily walk pass the place they were when you targeted them with it and dodge the attack.
-Light Grenade needs a faster charging, also it sometimes does not hit the enemy so if possible fix that
-If possible add hp boost to Piccolo when he enters Kyokodai or however you spell it
-Take out SS4 Gogeta's AOE thing that kills trees
-Give Bebi finger blitz for his first form
-Silence enemies who are in the area of Shining Sword Attack because a lot of players can just Zenzoken away from it or stun them for like a second
-Cell needs a slight buff, give him solar flare, maybe to like x2 stats imperfect form, x4 stats semi perfect, x5.5 stats for perfect and x7 for super perfect
-buff 17's stat boost from x2 to x2.5 or even x3, super 17 to x5 or x6, ultra 17 to x7, buff accel dance a little, and nerf the stat gain from absorption barrier
-lower the cooldown on vanishing beam on buu
-Trunks css to x4 power, x3 speed and ki, x6 power x4 speed and ki for uss, gotenks x5 speed and ki, ss3 gotenks x6.5 power, x7 ki and speed
-Keep Gohans SS and SS2 x3 and x4 stat boost even after potential because when you get it they're lowered to x2.5 and x3 stat boost, also have potential power up add on to mystic and full power mystic
-Vegeta SS stats lowered to x2.5, x4 power X3 ki x2 speed for SV, x6 power x5 ki x3.5 speed for SS2, x6.5 stats for Majin
-Buu x1.5 for level 10, x3 Evil Buu, x5 Super Buu, x7 Kid Buu, also when Kid Buu is using that teleport technique when he is fighting someone have him teleport all around the enemy.
-Broly SS x4, Unlimited SS x5, LSS x6, Bio Broly Stays The Same, Have Gigantic Meteor grab nearby enemies and drag it with it instead of just the enemies in front of it.
-Piccolo level 15 x2 stats, x4 Nail Fuse, x6 Kami Fuse
-All Secret Characters have x6.5 stat boost (yes even saiyaman)
-Red Aura for SS4
-Remove stun for 13's SS Deadly Bomber
-Make 16's Box Still Kill You Even If You Use Earring
-Candy give 4 Stat for Fat Buu, 6 Stat for Evil Buu, 8 Stat for Super Buu
-Increase Range and Casting Range on Buster Cannon, Increase Casting Range on 17's Photon Cannon/Power Blitz(I forgot what it's called)
-Nerf 17's Push, Nerf Broly's Push on his Punch
-Start Gohan out with Kamehameha instead of Masenko making him Gain Masenko when he reaches SS
-Majuub x6 stats, Rage x7 stats
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I'm still new to this map, but here are my opinions:

-Increase Bio Broly's armor because his overall armor is lower than his LSS form
-Buff Final Flash or nerf Big Bang Attack because it doesn't make sense that something that is instant and costs 30 less mana does more damage than a channeling that is supposedly his strongest spell
-Make speed a useful stat or remove weighted clothing
- Buff Turle's bullet driver because it doesn't hit unless the target is standing absolutely still and it doesn't do that much damage even if they take the full force.
-Though it pains me to say this since FT is my favorite character, maybe a small nerf to Heat Dome's cd.
-Buff Dabura's Honoo which is his weakest spell when its supposed to be his strongest, costs 30 mana, and has a large cd
-A secret hero for Broly seeing as he's the only character w/o one
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