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Nerf/Buff
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 10 2009, 01:09 PM (18,445 Views)
Gil-Rog	Jul 22 2009, 02:00 PM Post #31
Saiyan Posts: 151 Group: Member Member #82 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	VRPG Jul 22 2009, 01:47 PM I like the idea for Broly having another transformation, but LUSS doesn't exist. I believe you should have something at lvl 130. Like "Full Powered LSS" which would give him times 6 stats attributions. Which would make him balanced with the other guys. Although, im pretty good with Broly, a lot of noobs have been really sucking with him -_-. yeah, I've been playing with him pretty often, but because my friends are pretty good with the other heroes, it's really hard killing anybody. That LUSS was just an idea, your stage seems to be much better. That broly can finally keep up with the others. Edited by Gil-Rog, Jul 22 2009, 02:01 PM.



Albtraum	Jul 22 2009, 03:03 PM Post #32
Super Saiyan Posts: 235 Group: Super Member Member #83 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	But how about a special Event for the last Broly transformation? Like hunting or killing a Goku Npc to get his Final Revenge ya know? I just want to remember at the Cell stuff or when uub fused with buu, just another Transformation would be a little bit boring.



VRPG	Jul 22 2009, 03:17 PM Post #33
WTF, im green? Posts: 253 Group: Super Member Member #14 Joined: Jul 7, 2009	How about this. Once Broly hits lvl 130, and if you kill Gohan, Goku, or Gotenks you get the 6 times multiplier. This only works once.



Albtraum	Jul 22 2009, 03:24 PM Post #34
Super Saiyan Posts: 235 Group: Super Member Member #83 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	Ye its the same i told to gil rog, but he said then :" What if Goku gohan and gotenks left the game till youre lvl 130?" its impossible to get then, since buu or cell needs ANY z and noone special.



VRPG	Jul 22 2009, 03:30 PM Post #35
WTF, im green? Posts: 253 Group: Super Member Member #14 Joined: Jul 7, 2009	Simple solution, just use your blaster meteor in heaven and push them as far up as u can until they are not invulnerable, then just kill them. Same with cell, so he can get his 100% perfect form.



Albtraum	Jul 22 2009, 03:38 PM Post #36
Super Saiyan Posts: 235 Group: Super Member Member #83 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	Hey nice idea :-P but if they leave at the spawn places and noone kills them?



Albtraum	Jul 22 2009, 06:44 PM Post #37
Super Saiyan Posts: 235 Group: Super Member Member #83 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	Albtraum Jul 21 2009, 10:49 PM Hey ho meh and mah friends tested some heroes now... and so i have much to tell , we played without Dragonballs so that we can check the balancing a way better. So let me start: Cell: Till Perfect form nice to play, but with perfect hes a lil bit too weak , +0.3-0.5x stat multi would be fix that Example: Gohan had with ss2 about 5k stats while he had in normal form nearly the same stats then me in imperfect, but when i get perfect form, i only had about 3.6k stats. But after 100% Perfect he were like perfectly balanced with all others in their ultimate form, the only problem is its fucking hard to get in this form when everyone other is a waaay stronger (even goku in ss3, had just a bit lesser stats then gohan in normal). Second Problem of cell is the tooltipp of hes android bomb says it does dmg Equal to his life, well... i had gohan(11k stats in mystic potential transformation) on 10% life (i had about 6k stats at the moment with cell in perfect) and i had full Life. I tried to blow him with that spell up, but it took only about 6%. Broly: a friend (Gil-rog) tried out Broly a game before, it was rly good balanced till the endgame, goku and vegeta had about 12k-14k stats but he had only 8-9k~ it seems to me like theres a transformation missing, like Luss (well you could change it that he get a big amount of strength instead of getting pushed all stats see vegetas SV) Gohan: Just like i said, a "little" bit too strong in ss2, mystic is good balanced but full potential mystic gives too much stats i would say. And the normal Ultimate kamehameha of Gohan (10 mana cost) does more Dmg then Father son kamehameha (40 mana) i dont think thats wanted. :-P P.S. We tested buu - Frieza - Uub - Vegeta - Piccolo - Gotenks too since now and the last guys will follow with a report (if its needed) but we couldnt find any bug / unbalanced stuff at them at the Moment.( Except piccolo, i already posted the piccolo imbalance stuff in another thread). So Good job, keep on the nice work. :-P (Tester: Gil-rog,Cube-Zero,Albtraum) UPDATE Dr. Myuu(Super 17): Has some bugs with dr myuu at start (posted in another thread by gil-rog soon, hopefully) but i think his first Super 17 form is too underpowered. We tested it with Frieza and 17 both with nearly the same stuff (saga powers and dbs ) he had still more power then me even when i used the dragonballs Twice the Last Transformation is "Okay" but since Super 17 is an melee hero (has only crit chance) and most of his spells are making him... well... useless? no i just call it stunned ( Electro ball + Hell Storm) because they even do not that much dmg, or well atleast the hell storm could be buffed (or he just stays with that Kicking Dance from normal 17 form, it would make him to a more Agile hero(theres still one place for a Spell free :-P)). Edit: Or Add a last move to the Kicking dance spell, like a final kick with an big explosion? So its something special for Super 17 and doesnt seems just imported by normal 17.^^ Edited by Albtraum, Jul 22 2009, 07:30 PM.



VRPG	Jul 24 2009, 01:48 AM Post #38
WTF, im green? Posts: 253 Group: Super Member Member #14 Joined: Jul 7, 2009	Yea, I do see that super 17 has a blank move set. Stats wise 17 is fine, he can rush sagas getting most power ups, and he does pretty well late game.



Albtraum	Jul 24 2009, 01:53 AM Post #39
Super Saiyan Posts: 235 Group: Super Member Member #83 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	Ye probably, but saga rushes are in nearly all games not well seen, are they? :-P I dont like the thinking of Heroes where their power depends on how fast they rush sagas or steal most powers , just my opinion.. ^^



Admin	Jul 24 2009, 01:55 AM Post #40
Human Posts: 0 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 29, 2009	its a strategy to win... well if you could win atm :\ but yeah, unless your playing free move, the other team is your enemies and your "team mates" are people that wil steal your powerups from you :kaki:



Albtraum	Jul 24 2009, 02:01 AM Post #41
Super Saiyan Posts: 235 Group: Super Member Member #83 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	Well in that time were Dr. Myu is gathering 75 kills (gets probably slowed down by some morons who dies after the first 3 minutes of the game, hah) the most players (even those who get their hint at lvl 40 (vegeta - piccolo)) will get a way stronger then the final 17 when he gets out of hell only trough chaining (about 200 stats in 2-3 minutes is possible). And so they can easily Camp up those sagas since they are on earth since start.^^ So it doesnt even depend on 17, if he Fails in late game or not.



Albtraum	Aug 1 2009, 11:26 PM Post #42
Super Saiyan Posts: 235 Group: Super Member Member #83 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	3.12: Heres my first Report :-P 17: Nothing Changed so see my old report(Well but myuu, his bug is fixed^^). Bebi: Very nice idea that those minions have 10% power of the Real bebi, but theres the same problem with Piccolo now, since they are so strong and you can get sooo many in short time, you can Overcreep the map, and get over 40-50k stats easily. Buu:Balanced i would say but werent able to see Kid buu now (some new bugs here Gil rog will post them soon after some another Test games). Vegeta: There are some bugs too now that Resets his Speed/Ki Detailed description follows in various bugs thread of gil rog too. More will follow soon (if needed :-P)



VRPG	Aug 2 2009, 12:45 AM Post #43
WTF, im green? Posts: 253 Group: Super Member Member #14 Joined: Jul 7, 2009	Damn, if another person can get Bebi to 50 k stats then they are doing a lot better then I am, most I got was like 17 k stats end game.



Albtraum	Aug 2 2009, 01:22 AM Post #44
Super Saiyan Posts: 235 Group: Super Member Member #83 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	just farm at a good position minions till your final power up then let all those minions swarm over the whole map to farm stats for you. :-)



Gil-Rog	Aug 2 2009, 10:43 AM Post #45
Saiyan Posts: 151 Group: Member Member #82 Joined: Jul 21, 2009	That game was fucked up^^, I had with !Piccolo! less stats than his minions and he had about 200 of em .. If someone is at least a lil bit good at playing bebi he'll defeat everybody in a sec. Bebi became the even more imbalanced version of Piccolo with his multi forms ;).



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