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Nerf/Buff
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Demoknis	May 23 2011, 07:03 PM Post #271
ponders Posts: 865 Group: Super Member Member #1,256 Joined: Aug 1, 2010	Do you really think Goku is not op enough at this point? He has the highest multiplier and gets extremely strong extremely quickly. That would be like giving Vegeta back the full effect of his Saiyan Pride.
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Darth_Jhan	May 23 2011, 08:51 PM Post #272
Look at my perfect teeth Posts: 3,310 Group: Super Member Member #2,177 Joined: Jan 12, 2011	If Frieza had a buff....well then he'll be only character I will go for all the time.
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Vispery	May 23 2011, 09:22 PM Post #273
Super Saiyan Posts: 209 Group: Member Member #2,056 Joined: Dec 19, 2010	Pff why are everyone bitching about the Gravity Chamber... At the begining it was because Vegeta was getting too over powered with it.God damn it people Ki > Power LEARN IT After they made it once per game (normal mode) everyone started bitching that only Vegeta had it. Why don't we make 100 Gravity chambers around the whole map?And all Z-fighters and all Vilians can enter 10000000 times per game?Will you stop fuking crying about it then???He has it ONCE in the whole game.Do you think he will stay there for 1 hour?Using few senzu beans or whatever he has and then just wait to regen without an item?I dont think so...he will use it for not more than 3 minutes (or lets say 5 if he's inventory is full with regen things).It wont make him over powered or something,will it?And look at the damn scouter when you see that his power level is increasing fast just go camp him at Bulma.



Demoknis	May 23 2011, 10:05 PM Post #274
ponders Posts: 865 Group: Super Member Member #1,256 Joined: Aug 1, 2010	With 5 senzu beans and a hercule soda, I managed to gain over 5000 power in less than 10 minutes... and yes Ki > Power... but not when you have a the Energy Shuto, Darkness Sword, Super Namek Essence, and Majin Vegeta's boost. I'm all for ki, but if I had to choose between 1 million power and 100 ki or 1 million ki and 100 power... I would choose the power. Camping Bulma doesn't help if he can only go in one time. Basically he goes in with 8k power comes out with 20k and now you lost the edge you had when he entered. Just want to restate that if you get 6 senzu... 2 hercule soda... and the fruit of might... chances are you're going to kick some ass even if you don't have ki.
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TheViolentViola	May 23 2011, 10:24 PM Post #275
Gifted Human Posts: 41 Group: Member Member #2,152 Joined: Jan 7, 2011	Demoknis May 23 2011, 10:05 PM With 5 senzu beans and a hercule soda, I managed to gain over 5000 power in less than 10 minutes... and yes Ki > Power... but not when you have a the Energy Shuto, Darkness Sword, Super Namek Essence, and Majin Vegeta's boost. I'm all for ki, but if I had to choose between 1 million power and 100 ki or 1 million ki and 100 power... I would choose the power. Camping Bulma doesn't help if he can only go in one time. Basically he goes in with 8k power comes out with 20k and now you lost the edge you had when he entered. Just want to restate that if you get 6 senzu... 2 hercule soda... and the fruit of might... chances are you're going to kick some ass even if you don't have ki. Yeah, as a rushing Vegeta you just rush Garlic then get to 35 kill slug and cooler. Then you kill Turles. Farm for 4-5 sensu beans and win a tournament. Get to lvl 50 and then it's just a ridiculous stat gain from there. I can easily get a 6-7k power 4k agi 3k ki vegeta by the end of the android saga.



Vispery	May 23 2011, 11:02 PM Post #276
Super Saiyan Posts: 209 Group: Member Member #2,056 Joined: Dec 19, 2010	@Demonknis Whats the point in having 20k power if u have like 5k Ki.I mean they will blast u're ass before you get to them and try to melee them to death. @TheViolentViola Dude 7k power 4k speed and 3k ki in the end of android saga?Thats not kinda thats really fail.If you have a good frieza he will beam you're ass with 2 beams (k lets say 3)



Demoknis	May 23 2011, 11:43 PM Post #277
ponders Posts: 865 Group: Super Member Member #1,256 Joined: Aug 1, 2010	Dude... I was saying that if you were Vegeta and you were already the leader... and had healing items... it's basically insult to injury. Say you had 8k 8k 10k, and you're the leader. Now you go in Grav and you come out 20k 18k 13k or so, you're not even ss4 and you rarely see anyone on the Evils besides 17 with solid stats over 20k by the time you can get them with Vegeta. You also seem to be forgetting about items like Garlic's Bottle and Dimension Sword and you're also forgetting Zanzoken. Between Garlic and Zanzoken you have 3 seconds to melee someone to death who presumably has like 5k power and 13k ki if you're a decent Frieza.
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Darth_Jhan	May 24 2011, 04:44 AM Post #278
Look at my perfect teeth Posts: 3,310 Group: Super Member Member #2,177 Joined: Jan 12, 2011	For me, the only thing power is good for is to withstand ki blasts from the enemy to allow me to use all of my ki blasts to kill the opponent, not so much on melee them to death, unless you're Piccolo, Slug, or Majuub. Now if you're against me when I'm Mecha Frieza, then you better have at least 30k power to withstand my deadly combo (stubborn->supernova->death cannon->death storm->kienzan). Cause right after I use it, I would be nearly out of mana and would usually use death cannon to finish you off.....if you managed to survive it all. Edited by Darth_Jhan, May 24 2011, 04:51 AM.
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Drizzt	May 24 2011, 04:47 AM Post #279
Drizzlicious Posts: 986 Group: Super Member Member #18 Joined: Jul 8, 2009	Agreed, this man's mecha frieza is a beast to be reckoned with
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Sora	Jul 5 2011, 08:25 PM Post #280
No boost! No boost! Posts: 1,617 Group: Super Member Member #1,175 Joined: Jul 20, 2010	Nerf -The knockback on fat buu's innocence cannon. A disable that could be used in place of the knockback could be for the candy beam spell to act as a hex on enemy heroes. Not sure if its possible but if it is you can add a life leech effect to heroes and units that hit the hexed target like they were eating the candied hero. -The max range of zanzoken I feel should be reduced or the cooldown drastically increased. I feel like it should be used as a means of escaping an enemy every once in a while where as now I see it as a means of travel. Buff -An increase to the range of sense. Edited by Sora, Jul 5 2011, 08:28 PM.
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Hollowprime	Jul 6 2011, 02:48 PM Post #281
Saiyan Posts: 195 Group: Member Member #2,099 Joined: Dec 28, 2010	Buff: -Ultra divine water gives 10 status.It's like a sidekick powerup. Either increase the status given (varying to 40-60) or decrease the cooldown or the cost of the item. -Blast chip: Make it work for less than 1 ki on Trunks' buster cannon. -17 requires more than 1 mp/sec to spam his lazer and even the other spells.I suggest it is changed to 2 mp/sec.Also,if we apply logic,super 17 and 17 have the same android core which gives "infinite ammount of energy",it just has double capacity (his power) not double energy gain. -Jump of Broly (I really can't remember the name ) Make it a LOT faster to travel in the position. Edited by Hollowprime, Jul 6 2011, 02:49 PM.



Admin	Jul 6 2011, 03:01 PM Post #282
Human Posts: 0 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 29, 2009	-no -how the fuck can it be less then 1? -.- -hes actually 2 17's wich is double the core >,> -no



Hollowprime	Jul 6 2011, 03:40 PM Post #283
Saiyan Posts: 195 Group: Member Member #2,099 Joined: Dec 28, 2010	It can be 0.5 for example,and every time it goes 0.5+0.5 it creates a 1.... 2 17 have the same energy regen (infinite) with 1.It's just the prowess of the core that is doubled. If you find it that hard to increase the mana regen,reduce the mana cost of the laser to 5.He HAS to spam spells like every other hero. Edited by Hollowprime, Jul 6 2011, 03:41 PM.



Admin	Jul 6 2011, 03:46 PM Post #284
Human Posts: 0 Group: Admin Member #1 Joined: May 29, 2009	an integer cant be an half you moron and no he dont, you spend like what 5min as 17, learn to fucking play



Hollowprime	Jul 6 2011, 03:52 PM Post #285
Saiyan Posts: 195 Group: Member Member #2,099 Joined: Dec 28, 2010	You have a variable that is 0.Whenever it goes to 2,you add 1 point of ki in the hero and reset the variable to 0. Isn't it that fucking obvious? And when I was exploiting the million bugs of super 17 you were still trying to find a way to nerf him so you did the least you could do: Make the duration less. Are you that offensive on people who suggest things for your map?If so,then I should better gtfo because you act like a 13 years old kid. Edited by Hollowprime, Jul 6 2011, 03:59 PM.



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