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| ZeroMythos | May 14 2011, 09:25 PM Post #256 |
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^ I second that and think he should get android absorb and sense around level 30 then a second android absorb at level 45. Most Zs are already at a x3 or x4 by level 45 so running across the map at x1.5 is just too brutal for cell. I also think other Evils need stat buffs to match the Z fighters. Namely Frieza and Broly. |
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| No1Gamer | May 15 2011, 09:53 AM Post #257 |
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omg pls PLS buff the sword attack of Trunks. this attack is even more useless then the first one now. just increase the dmgspeed of the spell and it should be fine. ps. but it looks cool :P ^^ Edited by No1Gamer, May 15 2011, 09:59 AM.
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| Xelus | May 15 2011, 10:17 AM Post #258 |
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I would have to second this. The general use of your abilites like this, is that they dont hit fast enough, and dont stop enemies in caught in the attack from massing spells to kill you, or even just walk out of it. |
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| Darth_Jhan | May 15 2011, 09:18 PM Post #259 |
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I second the stats buff for Frieza 
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| Demoknis | May 15 2011, 11:48 PM Post #260 |
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Alright so I played as evil and what I noticed was that Gogeta is supposed to be a game-ender... but the problem with that is that would imply that evil should be able to kill all the Z's before they can get to Gogeta. With the Z Fighter's buffed it's very hard to kill them all before they can get Gogeta and rape what's left of the game. I was Buu and I was basically the strongest person in game for most of it, up until everyone started getting their final transformations. Not entirely sure why ss4 was buffed considering it was pretty sweet before. On to the ideas... To be honest, I think Buu is lacking a little firepower. More specifically, I find it almost impossible to get exremely high Ki and win in a beam clash with anyone but Future Trunks. Buu has used Kamehameha in the show so it wouldn't be crazy to give him Kamehameha after a point. So basically giving Buu kamehameha would help him to gain more ki and overall be more effective, especially after he was nerfed. Another addition to this would be at lvl 10 or 15 giving buu a 1.25x multiplier, so if he was at about 100 stats he would be brought up to 125ish... just because xD. Then after lvl 30 he would be 2.5x Evil Buu and whatever stats he had before would just be doubled. Summary: With the new buffs to the Z Fighters, games usually last longer resulting in more Gogeta... making him TOO game ender. Also Buu should get kamehameha and possibly a 1.25x boost at lvl 10 or 15. I personally don't think Frieza needs a buff, seeing as I almost never have a problem playing him. Broly doesn't REALLY need a buff either but for whatever reason I can never seem to get him to be REALLY strong towards the end of the game... atleast not like the other heros. |
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| No1Gamer | May 16 2011, 04:51 AM Post #261 |
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well ... you EVER got kid buu? cause then you would be strong AND have kamehameha ... |
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| Demoknis | May 16 2011, 05:14 AM Post #262 |
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I was Kid Buu that game... and he's not as strong as Gogeta. I was trying to say that it's a bitch to build up KI with someone like Evil Buu who has two fairly long cd nukes. I wasn't talking about buffing him for late game... I was talking about buffing him for early game. Buu has to wait till lvl 30 to get a 2.5x multiplier, in comparison: Broly lvl 15: 2x Frieza lvl 20: 2x FT lvl 10: 2x Uub lvl 10: 1.5x and continues to get boosts every 10 lvls. Goku gets Kaioken which now brings him to 2x By lvl 35 every Z fighter has a 3x mult -except maybe Uub not quite sure about his multi but I think it's 2.5x or 3x- Buu has to wait till lvl 60 for a 4x mult meanwhile for 30 lvls he's stuck at a 2.5x mult with fairly long cd's on his nukes so he can't have a very ki base strategy in comparison to someone like Gohan who can have like 800 power and 2000 ki fairly easily. What I'm trying to say is that I feel bad for the early game Buu. Kid Buu is fun and strong but simply put I'm just not afraid of running into Buu as a Z fighter anymore unless I somehow managed to fall far behind him. So yeah, Fat Buu could have a small boost and kamehameha just to tide him over to lvl 30, and Evil Buu could use more spells xD. Personally I also find it quite a bit harder to level Buu in comparison to other heros... could just be me. |
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| Hookmon | May 16 2011, 07:24 PM Post #263 |
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Agreed Demoknis, fat buu will get a little imba with three damage skills(imitation kamehameha-from dbz online-), a little thing to comparate he with the rest. =D |
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| GreatAlucard | May 16 2011, 11:52 PM Post #264 |
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I really think Buu scales preety well later on in the game, at the same time he takes more time to get that super buu bonus, his starting location gives him a huge advantage on the "Raditz+Nappa" saga, and there is also Broly close by to help if necessary, not to mention that as soon as he gets evil its his turn for raping everyone and thus building his stats greatly. Also, Kid Buu's skill set is among the best in the game in my humble opinion, thus making a fat buu buff, not necessary. EDIT: I totally agree on that Future Trunks sword attack buff, as it is right now I dont really see any real use in it, while it may be usefull in sagas, spamming his other skills seem to do so much more damage, the main problem seems to be that you cant stop him from casting it once he stops, making it a suicide move most of the time, either that or I did not really notice its potential or how to stop it, in wich case forget about it. Edited by GreatAlucard, May 17 2011, 12:06 AM.
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| Jaqwe | May 17 2011, 12:57 AM Post #265 |
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buu should be nerfed, since his passive is health regen and he can use that to spam the machine and get to like 4k before going evil but he should also be buffed cause his absorbed form is wayyy stronger than kid |
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| Hookmon | May 18 2011, 06:09 PM Post #266 |
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buu,the fear of the melee fags(aka mtfk regen)...when i comented i was thinking in a normal fail game(10~20 minutes of game),who buu is a little weak if someone stole nappa and raditz...aka piccolo. If buu reaches the late, only run...kid buu need to be nerfed, a good kid buu can easily have a good figth with gogeta ss4, a bad buu can run like a bitch...and survive!Buu with panties kill everything >.>( regen+mana regen+armor).it can be wrong(or no-or no[or no {or no}]-). |
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| Drizzt | May 18 2011, 06:28 PM Post #267 |
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It's fine the way it is, Buu is a bitch to get up if you get a bad start, and if you let the buu absorb you that's your problem, zanzoken away dumbasses. |
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| ZeroMythos | May 19 2011, 07:49 PM Post #268 |
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Buu is the only hero in the game with PASSIVE HP REGEN nobody can regen hp unless they use an item or stand near a healing fountain (Bulma, Kami, bed, pod) Buu has an 8 second stun by level 30 turning any would be even fight into a one sided slaughter. Buu has demension scream at level 60 allowing him to teleport around the map at will. He can fucking EAT PEOPLE. EAT THEM. INSTANTLY. If that wasn't enough as Kid Buu he keeps demension scream and gains INSTANT TRANSMISSION. Oh no powerful guy attacking me? PORTAL, oh he followed me? INSTANT TRANSMISSION sup Frieza. What's this? Portal and IT on cool down? NIGHTMARE IMPACT UP IN THIS BITCH, Kid Buu teleports as easily as you can left click giving him the potential to grab all the dragonballs and use them before you can even find him (Done it twice, need radar and skill) Buu doesn't need a higher multiplier because his skills RAPE his tactics are BRUTAL and his hp regen is damn near GOD LIKE Know who needs a buff? FRIEZA, level 20 he gets x2 then is STUCK THAT WAY UNTIL LEVEL 50. What's also at level 50? a x4 Vegeta, a x3 Goku or x4 with Kaioken, a x4.5 Uub, and a Piccolo with clone farming, namek regen, and Kyodaika. |
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| Demoknis | May 19 2011, 08:31 PM Post #269 |
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Dimension Scream has never worked well for me... probably just bad luck. I do agree that Frieza's multipllier is a little lame early on... but he's still a rape machine. I wouldn't really screw with the levels for transformations or multipliers. Instead I would give him another new spell after lvl 20. Perhaps get rid of Imprisonment Ball and replace it with Death Storm and then give him Punishing Blaster. Just realized the severity of the situation after reading that comment. Goku literally has a 4x multiplier between SS and Kaioken at lvl 30, and Frieza has to wait till lvl 50 for that. Still I think that lowering the level of third form would be a bad idea considering how effective Frieza is. Summary: Frieza could get Death Storm in 2nd form instead of imprisonment ball and Punishing Blaster as well to make up for his multiplier actually being quite low early in comparison to the Z Fighters. Brings up another point about Buu... he is AWESOME LATE GAME... but so is Frieza. If you really wanted to buff Frieza who IMO is better than Buu early game... you could atleast buff Buu to give him something to tide him over to level 30. Buu gets a 2.5x multiplier at lvl 30 when Goku is already at 4x... which also leads me to believe that Goku at one point became almost "too" rape. Summary: Goku has a 4x mult at 30 (SS Kai), Buu has a 2.5x mult, give him Kamehameha. |
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| brandondeabreu | May 23 2011, 05:02 PM Post #270 |
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I think goku should also be aloud to go into the gravity chamber |
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