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| Deleted User | Nov 4 2010, 08:19 PM Post #151 |
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Did you watch DBZ? Goku IS pretty boring if you don't count the stupid things he does/says. |
 
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| Sora | Nov 4 2010, 09:05 PM Post #152 |
No boost! No boost!
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this is in the wrong section for such a request. If you want goku's skillset changed then you should write your own skillset rework for him in the idea section not under nerf/buff. Edited by Sora, Nov 4 2010, 09:06 PM.
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| Xelus | Nov 6 2010, 03:05 AM Post #153 |
Legendary Super Saiyan
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I find Vegeta to be more OP this version with powers not giving very many stats. The 30% stat boost is really giving a shitload. And then theres Majin Vegeta... and yeah.. he has Saiyan Pride as well. |
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| Xsrgy | Nov 6 2010, 04:58 AM Post #154 |
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i agree...i have yet to see a bad vegeta yet in this version.. and ive been playing with noobs, trust me on that |
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| Scouten | Nov 6 2010, 05:00 AM Post #155 |
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Super Saiyan 4
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one of the last games i played he farmed heaven until ss4 but yes i do agree vegeta is very noob friendly |
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| Shoushin-Hime | Nov 10 2010, 07:18 PM Post #156 |
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Wasn't that me? :P And it was to test something to be completely honest. Vegeta really does need a nerf. On top of that I think Frieza need's a buff. I've only played ... 12 games on the bot I think but every game I've played Frieza either sucks, or left and even then he still sucked up until that time. Even when Pein played him last night. I wouldn't know what to add EXACTLY, since you already have all his forms, unless you wanna do an optional Meta Frieza transformation which gives a permanent power boost with no drain but is a bit weaker than Full Power. Or just a buff in stat growth, like Vegeta. I don't know, these are all just suggestions. And unless this is how he's meant to be played Future Trunks needs a nerf and a buff. In the beginning he's really strong, and if he continues to do superb, he can stay strong throughout the game. Otherwise he has a bad end game. In my opinion this could be balanced, making him weaker in the beginning and stronger at the end. Frankly, Gotenks IS a fusion after all, and a Super Saiyan-jin 3. We know both are strong, but together they -should- be unstoppable. For balancing reasons they obviously can't be the strongest but just stronger than they are, or should be. Maybe just a small buff. Lastly, for now at least, there is the "Fusion" issue. I played a game on the evil team, and we were progressively stomping the Z Fighters, they had their moments but we where definitely the strongest. Late game, this was Free mode mind you, we where all in our final forms, including what was left of the Z Fighters, Goku, vegeta, Gohan, and Uub. But... The gamebreaker was brought out, SSj4 Gogeta. Being powerful and such he decided to brag about his massive power. Then he challenged us to a fight, all at once. Goku and Vegeta by themselves where no great shakes, but Gogeta was ridiculous. Unless both of these characters are stomped out early game, Gogeta will win it everytime. He took on 4 of us at once and still won.. Then we chased him down and killed him once he unfused... But then from then on he got smart and ran away before the fusion ran out.. So the game got repetitive and ended. In conclusion to this I think that Evil needs something similar to this fusion. I -REALLY- don't know what it would be, but if Z Fighters do get Gogeta, then it evil should have a way to combat him, other than run like hell. By the way, if this idea is used, I would recommend that this "way" would only be activated once Gogeta is made for the first time. Other requirements would have to be thought out along the way. Edited by Shoushin-Hime, Nov 10 2010, 07:52 PM.
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| Sora | Nov 10 2010, 10:45 PM Post #157 |
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I'd like it if gogeta couldn't use olibu beacon. It's very easy for gogeta to farm tons of hero powers off the beacon in the course of 3 minutes allowing goku and vegeta to gain anywhere from 2-3k power in that time.
Edited by Sora, Nov 10 2010, 10:48 PM.
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Your argument is invalid, my hair is a cloud. Thank you so much for the signature Pookie "Sometimes we have to look beyond what we want and do what's best" Piccolo | |
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| Admin | Nov 10 2010, 11:38 PM Post #158 |
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you can fuse while being dead? |
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| Sora | Nov 10 2010, 11:42 PM Post #159 |
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Yep you can. |
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Your argument is invalid, my hair is a cloud. Thank you so much for the signature Pookie "Sometimes we have to look beyond what we want and do what's best" Piccolo | |
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| Admin | Nov 10 2010, 11:43 PM Post #160 |
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well it makes sense i guess since goku and vegeta is dead the first time they fuse :\ |
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| Koga | Nov 11 2010, 08:17 PM Post #161 |
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Well I'm pulling this out of my ass, but how about some type of evil potera fusion? You don't need to be the same race to use those, and seeing how it's perm it might be a turn off except for when you really need it. That or you could lower Gogeta's multiplier from x8 to x5 or something. It'll be a sizable nerf, yet he'd still be beyond strong enough for anything you need to do. |
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| Shoushin-Hime | Nov 12 2010, 12:58 AM Post #162 |
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That would be epic. Oh so epic. |
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| Admin | Nov 12 2010, 01:13 AM Post #163 |
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alb or w\e suggested a "fusion" well, more like a way to summon Omega shenron as a player, he would be 2 players just like Vegito |
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| Koga | Nov 12 2010, 01:28 AM Post #164 |
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Interesting, but wouldn't it be odd for Omega be able to fight himself? Aside from that if Omega keeps that sexy ass moveset, then bring it on (do you have two evil's in mind for the "ritual"? If not seeing how it's dependent on Gogeta being there I say have only the two strongest evil's able to do it. |
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| Xsrgy | Nov 12 2010, 05:51 AM Post #165 |
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how bout buu or cell just absorbs everyone and count that as 'fusion' lol |
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