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|(Trac/Net10) LG 840g Phone Topic|
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|Tech||May 29, 2013, 8:13 pm Post #1201|
* So, if anyone has any more info, thoughts, or questions on this phone, please post it all here... thanks.
* Here is the Tracfone LG 840g Tutorial Link: http://tracfone.deviceanywhere.com/tracfone/home.seam?
* Here is the Net10 LG 840g Tutorial Link: http://tracfone.deviceanywhere.com/net10/home.seam?
You cannot do any of those things on a tracfone. Is redundant to place general computer practices into context with this device. My observations are spot on.
Also...there seems to be this common narrative that people who value their personal data are looking at pornography or "have something to hide". This is sheeple speak and frankly is one of the reasons it becomes acceptable to specifically and purposefully block private search engines as tracfone does.
But, yes. Generally and from a standard pc network, those things that you mention are wanted by many people. I'm not negating that at all. But as I said, these practices aren't applicanble on a tracfone. So, no need to data mine/lock people out of their history and so forth. If there is then I'd like to hear it.
Startpage.com is a prime example that I had mentioned previously in the thread.
Startpage Protects Your Privacy! That's what many users value. Google, Bing, and every other one is the complete opposite. All of which one can easily access via the device.
Startpage, and its sister search engine Ixquick, are the only third-party certified search engines in the world that do not record your IP address or track your searches.
Your privacy is under attack!Every time you use a regular search engine, your search data is recorded. Major search engines capture your IP address and use tracking cookies to make a record of your search terms, the time of your visit, and the links you choose - then they store that information in a giant database.
Those searches reveal a shocking amount of personal information about you, such as your interests, family circumstances, political leanings, medical conditions, and more. This information is modern-day gold for marketers, government officials, black-hat hackers and criminals - all of whom would love to get their hands on your private search data.
Why should you worry? Major search engines have quietly amassed the largest database of personal information on individuals ever collected. Unfortunately, this data can all too easily fall into the wrong hands. Consider the following story:
In August 2006, the online world was jarred when AOL accidentally released three months' worth of aggregated search data from 650,000 of its users, publishing all the details in an online database.
That database is still searchable. It is an absolute eye-opener to see the potential for privacy nightmares.
—> Enter a query and find who searched for it
—> Then click on a "User ID" to find what else this user searched for
When we search, we share our most private thoughts with our computers.
These private thoughts should be safe.
You have a right to privacy.
Your search data should never fall into the wrong hands.
The only real solution is quickly deleting your data or not storing them to begin with.
Startpage will wholeheartedly continue on its mission to offer you great search results in the best possible privacy!
Can google say that? No. How about Bing?
Consider this.... Google Play shares too much personal info, app developer says
February 15, 2013— CSO— Google is in the information business. But one app developer is accusing it of providing him with "TMI" -- too much information -- about his customers. And this sharing of user information from Google Play has reignited an online debate over privacy protection and notification online.
Dan Nolan, an Android app developer, wrote in a blog post on Wednesday that he found what he called "an insane thing" when he logged into his Google Play account to update payment information.
Nolan had created the Android version of a "Paul Keating Insult Generator," after noticing that the iOS version had hit No. 1 in the Australian App Store. Paul Keating is a former Australian prime minister.
In his post, Nolan warned his customers, "If you bought the app on Google Play (even if you cancelled the order) I have your email address, your suburb, and in many instances your full name."
Every app sold through Google Play [http://www.csoonline.com/article/719327/many-android-apps-from-google-play-security-challenged] gives the developer this information, he wrote, "with no indication that this information is actually being transferred."
"[It's] a massive oversight by Google," he wrote. "Under no circumstances should I be able to get the information of the people who are buying my apps unless they opt into it and it's made crystal clear to them that I'm getting this information."
But not everybody thinks this is a problem -- any more than any customer giving a merchant his name, address, phone number and credit card number when making an online purchase.
Brian Donohue wrote at Threatpost that Google had no official comment, but he quoted an unnamed source saying this has been a long-time policy and is necessary for tax purposes because the app developers are the so-called "merchants of record," unlike Apple's App Store, where Apple is the merchant of record, and therefore its developers don't need user information.
[Also see: Avoiding basic BYOD blunders]
The source also said Google's Developer Distribution Agreement requires developers to protect the private information of users, and puts the notification burden on them. "[You] must make the users aware that the information will be available to your Product, and you must provide legally adequate privacy notice and protection for those users," it reads, in part.
Bogdan "Bob" Botezatu, a senior e-threat analyst at Bitdefender said an email address is needed for the vendor to get in touch with a user if a side issue, like a code compromise or data breach occurs. "Other personal information is necessary for billing and records keeping," he said.
"[This] is a transaction between the application vendor and the customer, while Google is just acting as a payment processor and delivery channel," he said.
But other privacy experts say the practice puts privacy at risk. "Supplying personal information to apps vendors is invasive in significant ways because of the way the information could be used, shared, and possibly monetized, all within the online environments in which they are used," said Rebecca Herold, CEO of The Privacy Professor. "[Apps] can also link to so many other entities in ways that other vendors of software you download onto your hard drive do not, and in many cases cannot."
Herold said Nolan is being "completely reasonable" to assert that users should be notified by Google Play that their information is going to the third-party developer. "Providing clear and conspicuous notice for how a site is sharing information is a basic, internationally accepted, privacy practice," she said.
Ben Edelman, an associate professor at Harvard Business School who has exposed privacy violations in the Google Toolbar and on Facebook, notes that Google informs those buying magazine subscriptions that their information, including "a unique identifier," is being shared with the publisher. "But Google says nothing similar about ordinary app downloads," he said. "In this context, a user would reasonably conclude that installing an app does not share name, email address, or other details with the app developer."
"Part of the rationale for buying via Google, in a marketplace Google purportedly supervises and runs, is to get protections including trust and privacy," Edelman said. "Google has been quick to emphasize those benefits when it suits them -- touting Google Checkout's ability to withhold user details from a merchant. It would be disingenuous for Google to disavow those benefits now."
Even if Google Play's Terms of Service puts the responsibility on developers to notify users that their information has been shared, Herold said that does not let Google off the hook. "What is Google doing to ensure the vendors are actually following through?" she asked. "Do they actually review the notices that the vendors are providing to the apps users? What will they do to vendors they determine are not adhering to the Terms of Service? Will they cut all ties with them, or turn a blind eye? Also, how do they define 'legally adequate privacy notice'?"
Samantha Murphy at Australia's The Age quotes Chester Wisniewski, a senior security advisor at Sophos, who observes that "users who buy something with Google Play are probably assuming they are doing business with Google -- not the developer."
Wisniewski said he saw no reason for panic, but it is a worry. "It's probably something Google should revisit," he said. "A cybercriminal could create an app just to get data, and that is what Google should want to avoid."
Also this... Does Google Know Too Much About You?
Do you trust Google? If you use its multitude of online services on a daily basis you might, but is that assumption wise? For some, Google is a wonderful company with a broad selection of useful online tools that make life easier, but for others Google is a looming, unregulated monster just waiting for the moment to drop the ‘don't' from the company's unofficial motto, "Don't be evil."
Artwork: Chip TaylorRecently, at the Aspen Ideas Festival, WNYC talk show host Brian Lehrer asked Google CEO Eric Schmidt if Google's constantly growing importance to users in the United States and around the world meant that Google needed to be regulated as a utility by the Federal Government. The surprise wasn't in Schmidt's response (which was "no"), but the fact that everyone in the room laughed at Lehrer's suggestion.
But is it that funny? Google tracks your online behavior to deliver relevant advertising; the company inadvertently controls a large amount of what you see online through its search results; it's amassing the greatest library since Alexandria; it has a huge share of the online video market; and offers a wide range of services that bring more and more of your daily online habits into its online sphere. Heck, Google has even flirted with offline advertising.
But Google Wants to Do Even More.
Earlier this week, Google announced it's jumping off its own servers and onto your desktop with its own operating system, Chrome OS. The move has prompted sharp reaction from privacy advocates, including the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the Center for Digital Democracy, the Center for Democracy and Technology, and the American Consumer Institute Center for Citizen Research.
Google has often been accused of poor privacy standards, and has been criticized over privacy many times. The search giant's entry into a market largely dominated by Windows has received applause for bringing more competition to the OS market, but a successful operating system could put even more information about your computing behavior into the hands of one company.
How serious could Google's online domination get? You tell me.
Google Has Your Day-to-Day Habits
Many people have a lot of information just sitting there on Google's servers including personal appointments (Calendar), correspondence (Gmail), work and personal documents (Google Docs) and online reading habits (Google Reader).
In 2007, PC World published this startling chart showing the privacy risks for your information. The basic problem was that all your information is just sitting there on Google's servers unencrypted, raising the risk of data loss, theft, or unauthorized access.
Never mind if a Google employee tries to get that information, but what if the government subpoenas Google? The company says it has a good faith belief that disclosure is reasonably necessary to satisfy an "enforceable governmental request" among other situations. Sure, the government could go after you for that same information stored on your own computer, but the feds could also get it from Google without you ever knowing, according to PC World's article "Is Google Too Big?"
Google Has Your Location
Several Google services can let you share with the world, and with Google's servers, where you're located right now. Are these handy tools? You bet. Nevertheless, you're letting a big corporation track where you are at any given moment.
My Location is a Google Maps tool available for mobile and now for desktop customers. This service shows where you are with a little blue dot on Google Maps, which can give you a sense of where you are in unfamiliar territory or provide you with directions to your destination. Google says it doesn't record your location in any way with My Location; however, you still have to send your location information to Google's servers to use the tool.
Latitude is a similar opt-in service to My Location, except it allows you to share locations between friends based on your mobile phone or desktop location. The service has a lot of granular controls to restrict information sharing to specific friends, which makes this a very flexible service. But unless you have told Google not to track you, the company has your most recent location on its servers.
Did you know that Google also ties information about your phone's battery life -- as well as other unspecified data -- to your Google account when you use Latitude? Google probably wants battery life information so it can tweak the Latitude program, but why is it tying that information to your personal Google account, and what is this "other information" Google's collecting about your phone?
Google's Got Your Voice
According to its privacy page on Google's Mobile Privacy page, the company says, "for products and services with voice recognition capabilities, we collect and store a copy of the voice commands you make to the product or service." No doubt Google does this to improve its voice recognition services, but still: Google
has a copy of your voice on file.
Google Voice, the company's telephony service, also records your messages and your voicemail for you. That's a great service, and it's great that the company will transcribe your voicemail for you to deliver it via email of SMS.
It should be noted that all of the above services are opt-in, but if you so choose Google can have your voice, your personal voicemail messages, and a transcription of those messages on its servers.
Google's Censoring You (in China)
A controversial issue surrounding Google, and other information gatekeepers, like Yahoo! and Bing, is how they are behaving in China. All of these search engines routinely block access to particular subjects, like Tiananmen Square, at the request of the Chinese government. Of course, if a Chinese citizen can access Google.com they would have the unfettered access they can't enjoy on Google.cn.
The typical argument in favor of Google bowing to Chinese demands is that Google needs to comply in order to do business in the largest emerging market on the planet. But doesn't that logic suggest Google could turn around and do the same thing at the request of any government?
Google Wants Your Desktop with Chrome OS
No one outside of Google has even seen Chrome OS yet, but it's already stirring concern with privacy advocates. That's because Google and its attitude toward privacy has been called into question many times. When Google introduced its Chrome Web browser, the company was criticized for recording your keystrokes in Chrome's search/address bar called the Omnibox, and that was before you even hit the enter key. Sure you could turn this setting off, but shouldn't it have been an opt-in function to begin with? Will Chrome OS be tracking your on- and offline behavior by default as well?
Google Privacy Policies Today
In fact, you could argue that Google is fundamentally reluctant to respect privacy in preference of innovation. According to a blog post entitled "Another step to protect user privacy," the company said, "Although [anonymizing search server logs] was good for privacy, it was a difficult decision because the routine server log data we collect has always been a critical ingredient of innovation."
That's a fair argument, since a lot can be learned from how people behave on the Web. If you combine a large body of data about user behavior with Google's massive computing power, you can see how Google could get an excellent sense of how to shape its products to meet user needs.
But then again, companies were innovating with focus groups and opt-in monitoring programs for decades and they fared pretty well. Personally, I'd prefer that Google and other online companies stopped tracking my cyber-behavior even if that did mean we'd see less innovation from these companies.
Google has a lot of handy services, but as the company gains more and more information from its users, those users may raise even more questions about how big Google should be allowed to get, and whether the government needs to step in and strictly regulate how Google's overwhelming amount of information is used.
|ge0rge||May 30, 2013, 12:27 pm Post #1202|
I've tried multiple times to access Starbucks' Wifi, and only once was I able to get it to work. I know about the zoom, refresh, etc. But it essentially never works, at least not for me. On a related issue, I just now tried to log into my Starbucks account from home using my wifi. I get to the logon screen and can enter my user name, no problem. But when I try to tap and enter my password, it doesn't recognize the tap at all. I tried refreshing the screen, zooming in, etc. I never got it to work. It simply seems that there is something about the Starbucks web design that this phone doesn't like.
By the way, I have absolutely no problem using the wifi at Peets and Panera coffee shops.
Here's another issue with the Starbucks access: I frequently get personal offers in my email, which I'd like to display on my phone rather than printing out the offer and showing the piece of paper to the Starbucks clerk. I can download the email offer to the phone, no problem. And when I first download it, the entire offer, including the embedded photos, displays properly. But if I leave the email and later come back to it, such as when I try to show it to the clerk, the photos and thus nearly all the entire offer content won't display again. This is true even at home when I'm fully connected to my wifi and I try to display the offer a second time. But again, I have no difficulty using this scenario with Panera offers. So now when I get special offers from Starbucks, I just routinely print it on paper.
On a related note, I recently took a trip to the Midwest. I was able to use the free wifi at the Cincinnati airport with no problem. But the free wifi at the Denver airport would not work at all. Or perhaps I should say that I gave up after nearly ten minutes of trying.
I'm an electrical engineer with extensive experience in mainframe operating system software design. So I don't consider myself a total dummy. Admittedly I've not done any web design. But it seems obvious to me that there must be multiple ways to design the web code for mobile devices to access. And some companies have done it correctly, others have not. I imagine that Android, iOS, and Windows phones have no difficulty with these web sites. But the designers of the web code haven't adequately considered the Java environment. It's just my own conclusion from my usage of this phone, but that seems obvious to me.
I like the LG 840G quite a bit, and I just ordered one for my wife. So my comments shouldn't be taken as a blast against this phone. Rather, I'm only trying to inform users of what this phone is and is not. And I think it's fair to say that the phone is unusable at a significant portion of the free wifi hotspots. Even if I could fiddle with it and eventually get it to work at Starbucks and elsewhere, it isn't worth all the time and hassle to keep messing with it. So in my opinion, the user experience is poor enough that it's unusable. The bottom line is that I just don't try at the spots I know don't perform well. Starbucks is one of those.
But thanks for the feedback. This is a great forum.
|Snacktime||May 31, 2013, 4:05 am Post #1203|
If anyone is still looking for a QR code reader for the 840G, NeoReader will work from the in-phone download
(get.neoreader.com) if you back out of the default hardware detection (it detects the 840G correctly but doesn't
officially support it) and manually point it to the file for the LG GT 500 series. I can't remember if I used GT 505
or GT 500 Puccini... It was one of the two... I tried it after the Nimbuzz J2ME app auto detected GT 500 Puccini
hardware. I haven't tested NeoReader much but it does seem to be reading magazine and onscreen codes and
opens the built-in browser. The pass/fail audio indicators work.
|Tech||May 31, 2013, 7:59 am Post #1204|
If you want to get rid of that absolutely, positively and profoundly annoying bar that takes up the top of your
screen when you're using apps like opera mini or any app at all then add this line to the jar....
Bada bing. Poof. Is gone, and you're left with a true full screen app.
|Snacktime||June 1, 2013, 4:10 pm Post #1205|
In ref to NeoReader:
"I can't remember if I used GT 505 or GT 500 Puccini... It was one of the two"
It's the version for the LG GT 505 that works for the 840G. It needs to be downloaded from the phone's built-in browser.
Shortened for phone: http://is.gd/LG505 (Verify it at longurl.org)
|TomCosgrove||June 2, 2013, 12:25 pm Post #1206|
||Thanks Snacktime, the shortened for phone worked great!|
|ge0rge||June 3, 2013, 1:04 pm Post #1207|
Even though the LG 840G can make calls from the U.S. to other countries, it can't make calls from other countries
back into the U.S. So it won't work for phone calls while traveling outside the U.S.
However, does anybody know whether it will work in other countries for internet access, either on 3G or on wifi?
I plan a trip to Germany in a few months, and it would be nice to use this phone to check email, etc.
|DoctorM||June 3, 2013, 10:43 pm Post #1208|
WiFi should work anywhere in the world. My wife took her iPad with her to the Philippines, and used the WiFi there
and in Japan (in the airport) as well. I can't say for certain say it will work in Germany, because I haven't been there
in maybe 30 or 40 years, but it should. If you go there let us know. It would be interesting to know whether free WiFi
outlets are widespread or not.
To my knowledge, 3G requires a telephone account, even though data is subsequently routed through the internet.
I have a chinese tablet that hooks up to a 3G dongle, but I don't know any US source for such a device -- but probably
you from using the phone (as a phone) outside the US -- so you wouldn't even be able to switch the SIM card, which
(I believe) would be required outside the US in order to have a local telephone account to send 3G data.
|ge0rge||June 4, 2013, 12:01 am Post #1209|
Thanks, Doc. What you said about 3G makes perfect sense. So it's almost a certainty that the phone won't
work on that. I'll try WiFi whenever it's available... And yes, I will definitely post my findings after my trip(s).
Between now and December, I'll be in Germany, Mississippi, Alabama, Florida, Chile, and Peru.
|ge0rge||June 4, 2013, 4:12 pm Post #1210|
I'm starting to get quite a few telemarketer calls coming to my mobile phone. Although it's annoying, it doesn't
cost me minutes because I can see who's calling before I accept the call. I now only accept calls from people
in my contacts list.
But I'm also getting marketing and spam text messages. Some of them have large attachments which consume
several minutes if I view the message. Unfortunately, I know of no way to screen text messages before I decide
to view them and pay the minutes. It would be nice if the software could display the source of the message when
it offers me the chance to view or ignore it. But it doesn't. :-( I'm considering having my mobile number changed
to eliminate this problem.
|DoctorM||June 4, 2013, 8:27 pm Post #1211|
You usually get the first five characters of a text displayed (can be blanks), so you could school your friends to
provide some identifier as the initial part of a text, then reject any text with no identifier.
And you could reply with a text threatening to track down the spammer and kill them if they continue to spam you.
That's what I do.
But otherwise, the only thing to do is begin a write-in campaign to our elected representatives to require sender
identifier display for text messages.
|Tech||June 4, 2013, 11:41 pm Post #1212|
Has anyone run into the problem whereas the device doesn't recognize photos in a given folder? In other words,
the photos are there if I plug the thing into the pc via cable but when I go to view the folder there is nothing in the
list for the given folder. In this case, I have an entire season of my sons baseball games. The main folder is simply
entitled 2012-2013 Varsity Season and then I have a folder for each game with pictures for the given game.
A couple of folders will be recognized by the trinket that there are photos in the folder but still only lists up to 99
where the folder has 118. The rest are simply blank when viewed by the device as if nothing is in the folder but as
I said, I know they are there because I see them when it's plugged in via the pc.
This is driving me bonkers.
I know that the device typically recognizes folders beyond 99 contents because other folders that are recognized
go up to around 240 photos and it sees them OK.
As it is, I have exactly 3,494 Pictures inside of 116 Folders after adding 657 picture files to 22 additional folders last
night when the issue started.
I know that the music player is limited to 2000, but the manual says nothing about file system limitations in reading
the contents of the memory card.
|MKOLLERSMS||June 5, 2013, 1:31 am Post #1213|
No phone sold in the United States will allow you to use the GSM frequencies of other continents. You'd need
a phone/SIM card combination that recognizes those frequencies... That's a problem the GSM standards, not
necessarily the carriers themselves. The US, Canada, Latin America and parts of South America are 850MHz
and 1900MHz. For Europe and Asia it's 900MHz and 1800MHz. And the 840g isn't powerful enough to handle
VOIP calling through Wi-Fi, unfortunately.
|Turk||June 5, 2013, 1:35 am Post #1214|
RIP Rowdy Roddy Piper
* Yeah, I agree with DoctorM, that it probably should work in other countries... some of my relatives who travel
* abroad are able to use their laptops with the WiFi in other countries, just saying, and good luck to you on that.
* Well, all I have to say is just be very careful in your travels to those foreign countries, for they are dangerous,
* disease filled, and very primitive.... especially Mississippi! .... (LOL LOL!!!) (get it?) ... (yep, I still got it)
* I know what you mean, but I would say don't change your number just yet, especially if you really like your number.
* When I got a new Fone back in January, I was getting the same stuff for about the first month or so, then it eventually
* stopped all together - now I haven't gotten anything in the last 3-4 months - so maybe it'll stop for you to? (just sayin)
* Tech ... hey brother, how ya doin' ... you said a few months ago on here that you were gonna throw your LG 840g
* into the Atlantic ocean?! (lol) You said you hated it and couldn't wait to get rid of it and get a new android phone?
* But I am assuming you decided to just keep it and put up with it for now? ... just asking, that's all, no harm..
* Ps: just wanted to say that I see over on Tracfone.com that they are selling again a reconditioned LG 840g for $30.
|Tech||June 5, 2013, 5:30 am Post #1215|
Yeah, I still don't like the thing. I've got a whole pile of phones though. It's Tracfone that plucks me though more
so that the trinket itself. Is horrible the way they strongarm basic technology the way they do on the basis of "oh,
we're cheap so we can".
The only reason I've kept it is because I've convertd all of juniors baseball video to work on it. Like 8 years worth.
Other than that, I see the thing as just a data mining utility to market the end user based on search habits.
No way we shouldn't be able to get to our urls and past text recipients to delete them. It's a basic function on any
other device on the planet.
The thing is that this is the transition device to the next generation of tracfone. People need to either speak up or
continue being shortchanged with basic functions as new devices come into market. I just choose to speak up is
all. To not speak up is to accept the skullduggery.
Plus I don't really want to throw the thing in the ocean. Is good for looking at juniors baseball pictures and whatnot.
Decent music player too.
|DoctorM||June 5, 2013, 8:06 am Post #1216|
You can buy phones with quad frequencies and dual SIMs on eBay, Amazon, and other outlets that would allow
you to use a phone in multiple parts of the world. And such phone should be usable under Net10 or Straight Talk
bring-your-own-phone options. Those phones are all expensive smart phones and usually sell for full price,
though - and (even worse) require an unlimited monthly plan.
However, there is no such phone that would work on Tracfone (as opposed to Net10 or Straight Talk), as Tracfone
(as opposed to Net10 or Straight Talk) does not have a bring-your-own-phone option.
|blueduns||June 6, 2013, 7:59 am Post #1217|
Does anyone know how you enter the security code number to get a home answering machine message after
calling the home number with the 840G? - I assume when the time comes to key in a security code, you call up
the keypad and type in the code. But then what?
I think I tried the obvious, but can't get the home answering machine to "hear" a code.
|DoctorM||June 6, 2013, 6:47 pm Post #1218|
Are you asking about what to do with the LG 840G, or what to input for the home answering system?
If it is how to dial more keypad numbers on the LG 840G after the call is connected, there is a little soft key at the
bottom of the LG 840G screen after the call is hooked up labeled DIAL PAD - tap that and the dial pad comes up.
Then just dial in the codes that your answering machine requires and follow the prompts that it announces.
If it is what codes to input for your answering machine:
1. Are you sure your home answering system has the capability for remote retrieval of messages?
2. Did you read the owner's guide/manual? (If it doesn't address the issue then it probably doesn't allow it.)
3. How would you expect anyone here to know without furnishing the exact make and model of your answering
system? -- and probably a copy of the user guide?
That being said, it is usually requires the caller to dial a star or pound-sign combo and/or a four-digit pin code that
you usually define in advance for the home answering system.
|Turk||June 7, 2013, 12:15 am Post #1219|
RIP Rowdy Roddy Piper
* I stopped by one of my K-Mart and Sears stores today... and look what both places finally had out for sale...
* The Net10 LG 840g -- prices was $70 -- I think this the first time the Net10 version has been in stores for sale?
* Anyway, I had my World Famous Turkberry 3 (s380c) on me, so I decided to take a few quick pictures of it.
Pictures provided by Turk and his Turkberry 3
|Tech||June 7, 2013, 1:40 pm Post #1220|
I master cleared a LG 840g that I had previously bought a full version of this asphalt 4 game to test out. We used
to be able to redownload our purchases. No more, apparently. Took the money and ran, they did. Should expect
this kind of thing by now, I suppose.
Now, when I go to the Gameloft site, it says I've not downloaded anything. Well... they're full of it.
Otherwise, why was I able to redownload the thing two other times?
|DoctorM||June 7, 2013, 3:14 pm Post #1221|
The LG 840G isn't showing up on Net10's web site, at least for my zip code. But even if it did, I don't understand
Net10's pricing strategy for it.
The LG 840G sells for $50 on TracFone, and a lot less on some websites such as HSN. Why would it be worth
$70 on Net10 - and with a $50/mo unlimited plan requirement?
If I was going to opt for a $50/month unlimited plan, I'd opt for a lot better phone than the LG 840G. Yes the LG
840G is a great phone for us minimal users on TracFone, but not so great a phone at $50/month -- I would get
a smart phone for sure... And Net10 now offers or allows all the great smart phones, from Apple iPhone-4 to
Samsung Galaxy S4. I also saw the Huawei Ascend II at a Randall's (Safeway) store on sale for $50. And Net10
is offering the LG Optimus Extreme for $150 (Android 4).
But an LG 840G feature phone at $70? I guess it is something for everyone, but I don't understand why anyone
would choose it for a $50/mo unlimited plan.
|ShadowDancer||June 8, 2013, 12:01 am Post #1222|
I agree with you. If I needed a monthly unlimited plan, I would spring for a smartphone, too. But, for my needs, the
LG 840g on Tracfone works very well.
The Net10 pricing on the LG 840g makes no sense to me. However, if someone does want an LG 840g to run on
NET10, you can get a better price on the phone, as you said, through HSN, or heck, ShopCellDeals is selling the
NET10 LG 840g on Amazon for $34.99 with free shipping:
|Turk||June 8, 2013, 12:45 am Post #1223|
RIP Rowdy Roddy Piper
* DoctorM (& ShadowDancer) ... I also agree with both of you ... maybe they could hire us for their marketing? (lol)
* Anywho, Net10 phones always seem to be around $10 more than Tracfones when they are released on the same model.
* The Trac 840g was $60 when it came out, but now is cheaper of course, and the the Net10 one was $70 when it came out.
* The Net10 LG 840g did come out a few months ago on Net10.com, I posted that info back a few pages ... and it's still
* available for the GSM4 market (AT&T) price is still $70... but I'm sure as time goes by the Net10 one will drop in price.
* ShadowDancer ... you have a LG 840g now? ... do you still have/use the Samsung r455c anymore? (just asking)
|Turk||June 9, 2013, 12:03 am Post #1224|
RIP Rowdy Roddy Piper
* I decided to move this question here where it belongs - maybe someone can answer it? - thanks - Turk
|DoctorM||June 9, 2013, 1:18 am Post #1225|
I don't actually use voicemail, because (according to TracFone) once it is set up for a particlar phone, it cannot be
If your phone is on when called, and you don't answer, or decline the call, then it goes to voicemail, and your
phone will have a notification that you have a voicemail (if the caller left a voice mail message.)
But, if your phone is off when called there is no way the phone can know you had call diverted to voicemail unless
the phone queries the voicemail box when turned on, or the voicemail box sends a notification to your phone once
your phone is turned on. I don't know whether either of these things happen... You can experiment by calling from
another phone and leaving a message on voicemail, then turning on your phone to see if a notification appears.
I don't know if TracFone's voicemail can send other types of notifications, such as email or text... I don't want to
go through TracFones set process to find out because you have to enter the phones serial number and phone
number, and I fear that also automatically enables voicemail (which I don't want).
If you don't want to use your minutes calling voicemail, you can call by landline, which cost you nothing.
Theoretically, you could call over WiFI using VOIP (voice or Internet protocol). However, I don't know of an
Java2ME app that does this.
I would think you could do that with a skype, magicjack, or other internet browser app using the phone's browser.
I haven't tried it myself, but maybe someone else here has.
|the Wizard||June 9, 2013, 3:44 am Post #1226|
Just wondering if anyone has successfully tethered the 840G to an android tablet using BlueVPN?
The idea is to create a WiFi hotspot for the tablet.
|DoctorM||June 10, 2013, 7:34 am Post #1227|
Do you mean using the LG 840G as the host? If so, BlueVPN (according to its description in Google Play) is an
Android app which only runs on Android 4.0 or higher. The LG 840G does not run Android apps (just Java2me
apps), so it couldn't be the host.
Or do you mean just hooking the LG 840G up to a host that is running BlueVPN? If so, maybe. I haven't tried it.
I do have an Android tablet that runs Android 4.0, but it does not have Bluetooth, so I can't experiment with the
Bluetooth connection issue. But my tablet does have a host USB port for a 3G dongle, so maybe the LG 840G
can serve as the 3G dongle -- that's not your issue, but your question made me think about it again.
I would guess by your question that you have a tablet that only has WiFi and Blutooth, but not 3G, and that you
want a 3G connection when you are out of WiFi range. If that is your question, and you find a solution, I would be
interested in hearing it. I sort of doubt that the LG 840G is the answer, though it might be. It does support some
advanced Bluetooth connections, such as to a voice activated dialing device.
|the Wizard||June 10, 2013, 4:15 pm Post #1228|
Yes, Dr. M, I was thinking of using the 840G as the host and for the reason you mentioned, having access to 3G
when outside of WiFi range with my Nexus 7. I realize that BlueVPN is an Android program and I would need to
run it on my tablet, but I was wondering if there may not be a version in some other format as well.
I read a post Saturday night by someone who had successfully tethered the Nexus 7 tablet to a non-android phone.
So that would seem to suggest that there may be a version of BlueVPN for something other than Android.
I'll look into it further and see what I can find out... If I discover anything significant, I will post it here.
|Snacktime||June 12, 2013, 1:27 pm Post #1229|
An easy way to display QR codes to other phones with the LG 840G:
1. Bookmark the URL for Google's QR generator (without the bracketed code operators which are used here to
keep the html from possibly getting screwed up by posting):
2. Open it in the phone. It'll return the QR code for "http://". The built-in browser will treat it like an image download.
The first one will be chart.png. Leave that one in the Picture folder. After that the phone will prompt you to rename
any that follow since they all come in as chart.png. Typical size will be well under a kilobyte.
3. Once the URL string is in the built-in browser's history list it's easy to flick back to it and hold down the URL until
it locks in the text field for editing, then add www. (or m. or is.gd/, etc) addresses to the end. The longer the address
is the harder it will be to read the code, and the more mixed math and punctuation characters it has the more it can
screw up the API. For that kind of stuff it would be better to shorten it first.
4. Zebra Crossing's code generator site (shortened link --> is.gd/zxing ) works in UC browser. That page has more
options but most if not all sites with a QR generator have all the input going to Google through the API, so bear that
in mind if making codes with personal data. Zebra Crossing isn't a heavy site but it's not mobile formatted.
Its scripting doesn't work in the built-in browser or Opera Mini. Just in UC.
5. Errata: UC browser will display QR codes from the Google API rather than download them, but it displays them
pretty small. Opera Mini distorts them out of square, or at least on the 840G it does. The phone's qwerty keyboard
has a second set of symbols that are sometimes needed for these mostly-machine-readable links if one gets messed
up. The 123@#? button then the shift arrow enables it. 120x120 codes are about as small as the phone's camera
can read reliably but it displays 150x150 on screen. It can read 90x90 with excessive effort.
|groomerz||June 14, 2013, 2:52 am Post #1230|
Lg 840g just keeps restarting. Wanted to upgrade from my LG800 to Lg840 and what a nightmare. Got the new
refurb phone. Log in and went to switch over to new phone. days and min go to new phone but not my number.
call tf . wait 3 days for sim card now ok , I then transfer my contacts from old to new via bluetooth. All seems good
so far contacts and there contact photo and ring tones all are now on new phone. Favorite speed dial list doesn't
transfer. I like this feature so I go into contacts and make a contact a favorite now on main screen I have picture of
my wife on speed dial page. I now go back into contact list and make 5 more favorites. Phone restarts and keeps
restarting. pulled battery and let sit for 10 min. put battery in and turn on phone and starts up gets to home screen
and a circle appears like it is loading something. Goes blank and restarts by itself and goes blank keeps doing this.
And every 3 cycle it removes .15 minutes. I pull battery call tf and they send me another refurb phone. I'm thinking
refurb phone problem. Get new phone , Call tf so they can transfer my number to new phone. call again to transfer
min and days. Start my bluetooth transfer of contacts and guess what happens. The minute I select a 2nd favorite
contact and go to home screen with fav contacts it starts restarting again and again. Now I realize it has something
to do with the contact list, transfer, or favorites.
So I start the phone and when it starts the home screen contacts page I swipe it to the widget page. Stops restarting
and seems ok. I swipe back to fav contact home page and restarts again and again. I swipe to widget page then go
to main contacts page and remove favorite tags on contacts. phone is good. I then remove the pictures of my favorites
that were imported from old phone. now I make 6 contacts favorites with no photos and phone is fine.
I am thinking it has something to do with the contact photos being taken with old phone and new phone doesn't like
them I will try to take new photos for my fav contacts with new phone and see if that works. Very strange and quirky.
And tf had no clue to problem, that's why I am sharing this so the next person that this happens to can fix it themselves.
|Tech||June 15, 2013, 11:57 pm Post #1231|
groomerz, you have to plug the pone into the computer, navigate to the lgsys folder and delete it. Then close the
window completely and power down the phone while it's plugged into the pc. Unplug from the computer once the
phone turns off otherwise it will begin to charge. Once completely unplugged from the pc, power the phone back
on and then try to do what you were attempting.
|Tech||June 16, 2013, 5:07 pm Post #1232|
Don't know if it has been mentioned, but the LG 840g has a heat sensor... So then if you leave it out in the
sun or something, it will start beeping to let you know before eventually shutting itself off.
|ge0rge||June 16, 2013, 5:29 pm Post #1233|
Here's an update to my multiple messages a few weeks ago about the wifi not working at Starbucks.. Yesterday, I
was there and decided to try it again. This time, the wifi came up without asking me to agree to the terms of service.
The browser, email, Google Maps could all connect fine. It is a bit strange that after so many attempts and always
getting stuck at the terms of service, it suddenly bypasses that step and just connects automatically.
Another interesting item is that now the personal promotion/discount emails I get from Starbucks display correctly.
I'd tried that twice before, and they would display properly the first time but not on subsequent display attempts.
I don't know whether Starbucks updated their web code to work better of whether the phone magically fixed itself.
But I'm not going to complain.
|blueduns||June 19, 2013, 3:17 pm Post #1234|
I know what a QR code is, but can you tell me why I want to display it to another phone?
|Snacktime||June 20, 2013, 9:22 am Post #1235|
It's just another way to skin a cat for transferring data that's lengthy to key in, most likely to another user's phone, or
for whatever scripting functionality one can get out of the codes. If a QR link file is already saved it doesn't cost any
minutes to show it as an image and it doesn't establish any kind of network connection or number transfer to the other
user's phone, which might be preferable in some cases. Unfortunately the more interesting code functions seem to
have poor standardization across different platforms.
|Loren8||June 20, 2013, 4:59 pm Post #1236|
||Does anyone know if you can turn call waiting on the LG 840g on or off? ... I had that option on the LG 800g.|
|DoctorM||June 21, 2013, 8:42 am Post #1237|
I think that is a carrier feature, and not a phone feature.
It can be turned on or off (if the carrier permits it) by entering the carrier star codes.
The AT&T star code for Call Waiting is:
To activate: (call waiting is on by default)
To deactivate: *70 (temporarily disables call waiting during the call you are on, and reactivates automatically.
I doubt there is a phone menu item for this, but if there is, it would probably be in the options menu that only
displays in the upper righthand corner of the screen while on a call... (I haven't looked yet, because I would
have to waste a minute to do it.)
If your carrier is AT&T (TracFone is not a carrier), then you can find all of AT&T activation/deactivation codes
at the following link: https://www.customerservice.att.com/assets/pdf/EnglishGuide.pdf
Just for your information, You are not a direct customer of AT&T (or whoever your Tracfone-assigned carrier is).
TracFone is the customer AT&T bills, who in turn bills you by charging against your pre-paid plan. The features
that the carrier (in this example AT&T) will allow TracFone customers to utilize depends on whether they are
included in the services TracFone negotiated. So some of these codes may work for you, and some may not.
If you try them all, let us know how succsessful you were.
UPDATE 1: I just tried *77 (Anonymous call reject) and it didn't work.
UPDATE 2: It took me a while to find these from the LG 800g Topic, but they would also be applicale to the LG 840g:
From the Turk Forum: LG 800G Forum (Turk's post # 878, page 9)
Conditional Call Forwarding: *004*1xxxxxxxxxx# (where xxxxxxxxxx is the 10-digit number to be forwarded to)
Cancel Call Forwarding: ##004#
From Bobby Lee:
Call Forward on AT&T by dialing *21*1XXXXXXXXXX*11# where XXXXXXXXXX
is the ten digit phone number you want it forwarded... That's for all voice calls, is that what you wanted?
I use the *62*1XXXXXXXXXX*11# Unreachable command on my wife’s phone so she can turn the phone
off at home and the calls go to our home phone.
other GSM codes (some work some don't depending on your network) check out the table at:
|Loren8||June 21, 2013, 3:38 pm Post #1238|
Thank you Doctor M... I received a PM last night from a AlexTrac. " Hi Loren8,
Call waiting is a preloaded feature on the LG 840G. Unfortunately, there is no way that we can disable the feature.
When call waiting is turned on, you can put the first call on hold and answer the second call by pressing the SEND
key. To answer your question, there is no option for us to turn off or disable the call waiting feature.
Should you have any question, feel free to email us at [email protected]
TracFone Wireless "
|DoctorM||June 21, 2013, 6:48 pm Post #1239|
That is some good info. Thanks for sharing it... Have you actually used the Call Waiting feature?
I would guess then, from what TracFone reported to you, that perhaps the Conference Call capability is also a feature
of the phone, since it would require accepting a second (up to five) calls to merge... Anybody tried a conference call?
|DJRedLocks||June 22, 2013, 12:40 pm Post #1240|
Hey everybody.. I just upgraded from the flip-phone LG 420g to the 'smarter' phone LG 840g. This was primarily
done so I could assess if tracfone was going to meet my needs in a phone carrier (it has, I don't use a butt ton of
minutes) and then I would upgrade to a better phone once they came out with one. I was going to go with the LG
505c, but a lot of the feedback on the forums here wasn't as glowing as I'd like in a personal gadget, so I waited.
I'm glad I did because the LG 840g has been working great for what I need it for.
I agree with most people's assessment that it has almost all of the functionality of a smartphone and to coax its finer
functions into use you need to be a little tech-savvy, be good navigating around menus and be good dealing with a
cheaply designed UI, but hell, if I wanted the $300 experience I would've paid for it. Great picture and video quality,
free wifi connectivity, and TMFL cause I bought it online.
Not to forget to mention, it was a refurbished model so it was half off at the tracfone online store, $25 for the whole
kit-n-kaboodle. Nice. ... It boggles my mind that some of my friends insist on paying Verizon a small fortune for the
same things, but no one ever said saving a couple bucks was easy.
Thank you Tracfone for getting on the smarter phone bandwagon, and THANK YOU TURK FORUMS, you people
are awesome. yes, you reading this too.
|DoctorM||June 22, 2013, 8:16 pm Post #1241|
Just tried a call waiting and conference call -- they both work.
You here a little beep-beep notification that another call is coming in. Then on the keyboard is a key to accept it.
|MKOLLERSMS||June 23, 2013, 9:39 am Post #1242|
So, curious question. Has anyone yet figured out how to remove Home Screens (such as the Contacts home
screen) or having two Widgets Home Screens? Also, has anyone figured out how to edit the status bar to get
rid of the clock?
Tracfone is INSISTENT that you cannot modify the OS in any way without breaking the TOS (they've notified
me twice over Twitter about the ramifications of doing so), but there has to be SOME way of going about it.
|DoctorM||June 23, 2013, 5:33 pm Post #1243|
You would have to root/jailbreak the phone to do it, and even then, you might not be successful. TracFone is
aggressive (and successful) about sueing commercial enterprises that advertize doing it. Then afterwards, if
you were successful, you wouldn't be able to use it (with TracFone, anyway).
Here is a link that discusses it. You can google: "Root - jailbreak TracFone" to find more links...
Here is another link: http://www.helpowl.com/q/LG/LG840/Technical-Support/root-tracfone-lg-840g/343742
|newto840gJune2013||June 23, 2013, 9:05 pm Post #1244|
I am new to the 840g, but got google maps, signed and installed. I did a web search on apps.
I *THINK* that the version I got came from: http://www.mobyware.net/get-software-217254.html
(load that in the tracfone's own browser).
The first thing to do after installing is to go to Games & Apps, find the new downloadand click on the INFO button.
CHECK THE PERMISSIONS. Do that for everything you download.
Some have reported unsigned versions which also attempted to make phone calls.
The version I got shows ONLY HTTP and HTTPS and "Always Allowed".
The version I have is a signed app (the tracfone only allows signed apps, signed with a certificate it recognizes,
to have "Always Allowed" access).
It won't make phone calls (not that it might not use the web to connect back and send some tracking data, but it
will not use up phone minutes if I am connected via WiFi).
Check the Application Information and the Certificates.
You should probably do that for any application you install (I do, and often block SMS and other access that an
application may have asked for but I don't feel it should have).
|newto840gJune2013||June 23, 2013, 10:46 pm Post #1245|
Linux? .. I am using Fedora Core 2 (!!) (Well, the hard drive with RedHad 7.2 finally bit the dust) (with an updated
kernel and latest ffmpeg for converting videos to .3gp with amrnb audio though I suspect that I can get better audio
working) on one system and Fedora 11 on another (neither gnome nor kde though - I like a command line so I use
ice as my window manager with several xterms for command line work). I haven't tried playing around with auto-
mounting the device but simply use: mount /dev/sd[what?]1 /mnt/usb (I have a /mnt/usb empty directory as a mount
where "what?" is the next free sd device number (on Core2 I have an IDE drive and nothing else so it is sda1 but
on Fedora 11 I have two SATA drives (a,b) so it is sdc1 - unless I have used it once and forgot to unmount it (or
have mounted a CD or DVD in one of the cd/dvd drives) (in which case the device remains used and I have to use
the next letter).
Your version of Linux is probably a bit later than mine and gnone probably will automount it (I have intentionally
disabled automount - I like to control what gets mounted and when and where).
I have had no problems using either Core 2 or Fedora 11 with the LG 840g and I don't think you'll have a problem
with Linux, either.
|Tech||June 24, 2013, 6:25 pm Post #1246|
Best to just move on to a company that doesn't use questionable TOS as a vehicle to pee all over the constitution as
well as suppress the most basic of technology and functionality.. Is what happens when sheeple give multi-national
corporations the gift of personhood and constitution. They think they get to run the place.
Eventually it's going to backfire on them and they'll be sued into oblivion for some of the skullduggery involved with
their business practices. I wish one of their web trolls would pull that fodder on me on twitter. The terms of controversy
extend well beyond some dolt's TOS when it comes to the right of the indvidual and their property.
|Snacktime||June 24, 2013, 9:11 pm Post #1247|
The Update Scanner addon for Firefox will notify you of changes to a URL that doesn't use RSS. The addon
works but some of it is kind of rough.. I adjusted the Firefox visual properties (View>Toolbars>Customize) to
drag the Update Scanner arrow up top from the Add-On bar down at the bottom (which can then be turned off
within View if serving no other purpose). The arrow turns purple when there's new content and has an audio
cue (that can be changed).
With the arrow up top turn off the visual notification option to eliminate a popup notification banner. It's not needed.
When purple, if the arrow is clicked it opens a side bar list that shows which URL changed. Don't use it to go to
the site. Close the sidebar, then go to your bookmark or tab for the page and refresh it for the new content.
You can navigate to it through the sidebar list with a left click but that's a buggy aspect of the add-on that needs
more work and it's slow compared to a manual refresh. Set the scanner to something reasonable like every thirty
minutes or hourly or you'll probably get blocked. I have this one set on ignore medium changes and scan every
On XP the Sansa 240 x 320 output option in the MP4 converter section of DVDVideoSoft Free Studio is the
right resolution for the phone and the program has a Youtube video fetcher, MP3 conversion options, etc.
If you can pull a file down at 720P it does pretty good and they're ok starting from 480P.. 1080P doesn't seem
to lend much benefit when converting to such a small size. Probably not worth the trouble, other than for audio.
The volume on the phone goes to eleven.
|marne||June 26, 2013, 5:48 am Post #1248|
I have been using the LG 420G Tracfone since June 2011. For my use, it served me well. My 1 year airtime
is up in August 2013.
Me, wondering if my battery will be needing a replacement sometime soon, (how long does it last anyhow?)
am thinking about getting the LG 840?
Reasons: larger screen, qwerty keyboard, and may enjoy some of the features more? .. Anyone agree?
My questions are:
If in time, I find I do not like the LG 840, can I go back to my LG 420 again? If so, are batteries still available
for it and where to buy?
If I buy the LG 840g now, can I put the SIM card and battery in it, charge it up and play with it to familiarize
myself with it before I switch over activating it for airtime use?
|DoctorM||June 26, 2013, 8:58 am Post #1249|
You can always reactivate your LG 420G anytime you want.
If you want a new battery for the LG 420g, look at the number on the battery, and then search on that number
on Amazon or eBay, where you will find the best prices and free shipping. The same LG battery is often used
in many different models, so you will get the best search results on the battery number rather than the phone
You will not be able to use your 420G SIM card in the LG 840G -- it will come with its own SIM card. SIM cards
are programmed by TracFone to the serial number of the phone, and can't be transfered to another phone.
You can transfer your phone number and minutes.
I'm fairly certain the battery for the LG 420G will not fit the LG 840G, which will come with its own battery.
All you have to do is charge the phone (battery) before using.
You can use most features on the LG 840G, including Bluetooth, WiFi, but not 3G, without activating the phone.
|annepani||June 26, 2013, 11:36 am Post #1250|
If you do not like the LG 840, you can go back to the LG 420 or move on to any other Tracfone that catches your eye
at the time. You can transfer your minutes and service days (and phone number if you choose) from the LG 840G to
the new Tracfone, whatever that is.
|marne||June 26, 2013, 5:46 pm Post #1251|
||THANK you both for your much appreciated replies!|
|Homura||June 27, 2013, 2:10 am Post #1252|
||Is it me or did they remove the LG 840g from the HSN purchase list? Maybe they're getting ready for a new phone?|
|DoctorM||June 27, 2013, 10:31 am Post #1253|
The LG 800 is still on HSN, so I'd say the LG 840G is just out-of-stock -- it is (if the Turk Forums is any gage) the
most popular TracFone (as opposed to Net10 or Straight Talk) model. I'd guess when it comes up again it might
be in two colors (white and black).
|marne||June 27, 2013, 11:27 am Post #1254|
I couldn't get it on HSN either. Was wondering If it will be available again on HSN?
I don't know if I should wait or go and get one at Radio-shack today.
They have two left with sale $49.99 ending on Saturday 29th.
I sure would like a white one? And----- is HSN a better way to go?
|annepani||June 27, 2013, 12:33 pm Post #1255|
Neither HSN nor Radio Shack. Get it on ebay from a seller named shopcelldeals. Better prices and available in
your choice of black or white. I and others on this forum have dealt with that seller and have been very satisfied.
I've dealt with them for a couple of years
|Curmudgeon||June 27, 2013, 2:00 pm Post #1256|
I'll second the recommendation for buying from shopcelldeals.com. My last three Tracfones
came from them. Not only are their prices very good, but the quality of service can't be beat.
When I placed an order for my first Tracfone from them, I noticed about a half hour later that
they listed another model that I would prefer. They emailed me almost by return mail and made
the switch smoothly. They shipped the same day and there was no sales tax (coming from out
|marne||June 27, 2013, 4:53 pm Post #1257|
I don't have PayPal and never did ebay because of what I have read way back.
|annepani||June 27, 2013, 5:02 pm Post #1258|
Then follow curmudgeon's example and buy through their own website, shopcelldeals.com.
|ShadowDancer||June 27, 2013, 6:19 pm Post #1259|
I, too, have bought my LG 840g and airtime cards from ShopCellDeals. His service has always been first-class for me.
In addition to having his own website and selling on eBay, he also sells on Amazon. But, you need to check his prices
because they can vary from site to site. I have purchased items from ShopCellDeals on both eBay and Amazon.
|ge0rge||June 27, 2013, 6:24 pm Post #1260|
True, you can transfer your phone number, air time, and minutes to another Tracfone. BUT you have to be very
insistent with the Customer Service technician if you have more than 600 minutes to transfer. Neither the website
nor the technician will let you transfer more than 600 minutes... They say it can't be done. But it can. Just insist.
And don't let them tell you to hang up and that it will happen automatically in two days. I've been through this ordeal
twice in the last three months and twice two years ago when I upgraded phones. Very frustrating. I had nearly 3000
minutes to transfer, and they wanted to only transfer 600, saying that their system can't handle any more than that.
But I finally got to speak to a supervisor and got it done while I was on the phone. It took nearly an hour. Thankfully,
the supervisors are courteous and know how to do what needs to be done. But it's difficult to get the technician to
let you talk to the supervisor. Just try to keep your cool, refuse to hang up, and keep asking for the supervisor...
Eventually, it will get done.
|ge0rge||June 27, 2013, 6:32 pm Post #1261|
I also like SHOPCELLDEALS. There are LG 840G's on eBay for less money, but in my opinion, you might be sorry.
I just went through that experience two weeks ago... Rather than pay $44 from Shopcelldeals, I bought the phone
from another fellow who only had two available. I paid $36 including postage, thinking I'd gotten a great deal. But
when I tried to activate the phone, Tracfone refused. They said that the vendor has to first activate the phone when
they sell it. Then and only then can the buyer actually get it activated. This is Tracfone's way of making sure that the
phone is legitimately sold and not stolen.
I tried activating on Tracfone's web site and by talking to a Customer service tech.. No-go in both situation.. So I
contacted the seller. His only reply was, "Well, it should work." I contacted him again and again over a period of two
weeks with no additional response from him... Finally, I filed a case with eBay. They accepted my complaint after
a few days, and a refund from eBay is in process right now. Bottom line: I didn't lose any money, but I did lose time.
Two days ago, I went back to Shopcelldeals and bought the phone from them. Fast delivery, a couple of freebies
thrown in, and the phone was activated with no problems.
|ge0rge||June 27, 2013, 6:49 pm Post #1262|
On eBay, there are sellers offering Tracfone airtime and minutes for significant discounts.. They say that no PIN
or PIN card will be given. Instead, you give them your phone number, and they add the airtime / minutes directly
to your account. You can find several of them by searching on "tracfone airtime" in eBay.
They have good seller ratings, but I'm reluctant to try any of these vendors; it sounds like they might be hacking
into Tracfone's system to get airtime PINs and somehow apply them directly to your phone. But maybe I'm being
too suspicious. Has anybody used one of these sellers, and if so, were you happy with what they did?
|annepani||June 27, 2013, 6:53 pm Post #1263|
I have transferred 3000+ minutes on one Tracfone and 1500+ minutes and more than a year on another, no problems
and no agony. I think you have to be sure to call Executive Resolutions in Miami.
People are also beginning to report that you can do it on the automated phone system without talking to anyone.
The calls involved 2000+ minutes for one phone and 1500+ minutes plus several years on another.
|jo336||June 27, 2013, 9:58 pm Post #1264|
I haven't posted in a long while. May of 2012 I purchased the lg 800 and that phone was ok but I hated the resistive
touch screen. Made phone calls by mistake just from that touchscreen not working well. I saw the lg 840g had come
out and it was like the lg 800 but now it had wifi. I was interested and started reading some of the posts from people
in here and it sounded like this touchscreen was going to be better so I bought one in early May this year.
I was pleased to see that the touchscreen really is a major improvement from the lg 800. The wifi is ok I've tried using
it a few times... My main reason to have a Tracfone is for the very few times I need to have a phone when away or at
work. The tracfone pay by the minute works great for me. I save so much money not having a $50. plan. I am waiting
on pins and needles like many on here for an android smartphone from tracfone, gotta believe it will happen soon as
all the phones being made now are mostly smartphones.
I wanted to thank all of the posters on here who gave a lot of detailed information on various features of this phone.
I can say that I was able to get my minutes switched over but I had to call as the online service would not give me all
of my minutes that I had before. The volume is good on this new phone, I think it is better . The music player is good
I have tried the getjar apps but I still have the annoying keypad on the bottom of every screen. I'm not that techsavvy
to rewrite the file so I just forget about those apps for now... I like the suggestion from one reader that she keeps her
shopping list on the phone, that's a good idea that I have been able to add the notepad icon to the shortcut screen to
make it easier to use, thank you Dr. M!
|ShadowDancer||June 27, 2013, 10:16 pm Post #1265|
On eBay, there are sellers offering Tracfone airtime and minutes for significant discounts.. They say that no PIN or PIN card will be given.
Instead, you give them your phone number, and they add the airtime / minutes directly to your account.
I have seen those sellers listed on eBay, too. But, I do not plan to try them because I am not about to give out my
cell phone number to complete strangers. . . . Have you considered what they could do with your phone number
plus your other personal information that's part of an eBay transaction?
|ge0rge||June 27, 2013, 10:27 pm Post #1266|
Yes, indeed, I'm concerned about that. Plus, I'm afraid that after I give them my money, the minutes and airtime won't
be added correctly (e.g. not getting the triple minutes bonus). And that would just lead to yet another bunch of wasted
time like I had with the cheap phone purchase. Last year, I did buy a 1-year, 400-minute card for $85 on eBay, and it
worked OK... But the seller actually shipped a card with a pin. It wasn't an hidden PIN like is being sold now.
I have a few weeks to wait and check for a discount on an actual card... Lacking that, I'll buy from Shopcelldeals.
I trust them.
|ShadowDancer||June 27, 2013, 10:58 pm Post #1267|
Yes, indeed, I'm concerned about that. Plus, I'm afraid that after I give them my money, the minutes and airtime won't be added correctly
(e.g. not getting the triple minutes bonus). And that would just lead to yet another bunch of wasted time like I had with the cheap phone
purchase. Last year, I did buy a 1-year, 400-minute card for $85 on eBay, and it worked OK. But the seller actually shipped a card with a
pin. It wasn't an hidden PIN like is being sold now.
I have a few weeks to wait and check for a discount on an actual card... Lacking that, I'll buy from Shopcelldeals. I trust them.
Good points! . . . I wondered about adding Promo Code bonus minutes, too.
Last year, I bought a 1-year card from ShopCellDeals. At that time, he/they didn't send an actual Tracfone card,
but rather a sheet of paper with the pin number and the instructions carefully printed and spelled out. It worked
just like an airtime card.
On Wednesday, I ordered a second 1-year card from him/them, and he/they had it in the mail to me with a tracking
number within two hours after I ordered it. I expect it to arrive by Saturday.
On another phone forum, I recall someone had posted that he had had a problem with some airtime that he had
bought from ShopCellDeals.. But, this person had contacted him/them, and ShopCellDeals got the trouble fixed
So, I feel comfortable buying from ShopCellDeals.
|ge0rge||June 27, 2013, 11:41 pm Post #1268|
Ten minutes ago, I ordered one-year, 400 minutes from shopcelldeals for $84.99. PIN by email.
UPDATE: Immediately after posting this message, the PIN came in on my email. Can't get much quicker than that.
|marne||June 28, 2013, 1:56 pm Post #1269|
I want to THANK each and EVERY one of you who replied after my post with such helpful valuable info!
From your mentioning, I am itching to buy from shopcelldeal right now, but was wondering if because of
4th of July coming, do they ever have sales for?
Thank you! I will try to hold out to wait for an answer here. I already signed up to get in there and am ready.
|Homura||June 28, 2013, 2:16 pm Post #1270|
||ShopCellDeals has amazing service, the shipping on some of their products is free and takes 3 days to ship.|
|marne||June 28, 2013, 3:20 pm Post #1271|
Amazon has it for $36.99 which comes from Shopcelldeals and Shopcelldeals is $39.99.
Wonder how that can be?
|annepani||June 28, 2013, 4:21 pm Post #1272|
The few dollars difference is often attributable to the various shipping charges imposed by the various sites.
Are you going to get the new fashion forward white color or are you sticking with classic black? This is exciting, isn't it?
You can contact shopcelldeals by email through any of the three sites -- ebay, amazon or shopcelldeals.com --
and ask if they are going to have July 4th sales.
|DoctorM||June 28, 2013, 4:47 pm Post #1273|
@ Marne and all
White LG 840G now on sale at HSN
Special at $99 includes 1400 minutes (a 400 minute card tripled = 1200 minutes plus 200 bonus minutes) and
portable speaker, in black, blue or pink (your choice).
Just my opinion, Marne, bur it is hard to beat HSN when they are on special.
Opps, my bad -- no extra back cover - the colors go with the speakers.
To appreciate this deal, consider that a 400 minute 1-year card costs $99 on TracFone without the 200 bonus
minutes bonus. The best deal on a 400 minute 1-year card is about $85. So the price of the phone itself is any
where between $0 and $15... And that is not considering what the portable speakers might be worth.
|marne||June 28, 2013, 7:07 pm Post #1274|
Oh my goodness! ... I don't know if I should hug you or spank you? Decisions, decisions.
My problem is----I was planning on buying the phone now to play with. (familiarize) Then---when I buy my yearly
card when due in August, I was going to get the store here to do all the transferring over of my LG 420g minutes,
+250Promo minutes, + the 1200 triple minutes I am paying for as I do not have any idea how to do all that.
Thanks soooo much for letting us know and especially for the url because I am anxious so see it on TV to get an
idea of what it looks like and does.
|DoctorM||June 28, 2013, 7:36 pm Post #1275|
HSN ususlly gives the same thirty-day trial period as TracFone (and I believe ShopCell Phone Deals does the same).
However, I did not see the normal return policy statement in the HSN ad page for this product (you can call them and ask.)
I think all three sources require you pay return shipping if you return it.
HSN also allow payment in 4 increments without any interest.
HSN also has the black face & back model -- same special.
|marne||June 28, 2013, 8:41 pm Post #1276|
||I have been running ragged trying to find when it is going to be aired on HSN?|
|DoctorM||June 28, 2013, 10:16 pm Post #1277|
Probably won't be aired. Just go to the website by the link I included above (and below) and there is a video
EDIT -- Opps, I do not see a video link in the ad. Might be one on youtube.
Try this link on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lg+840g+review&oq=LG+840G
|marne||June 29, 2013, 5:43 am Post #1278|
Shipping is free at both places.
Yes, I am pushing for the white one.
Yes, I am very excited from all I have been reading here on it.
One thing that puzzles me tho is, on a review I read a QUOTE: "It is not a smart phone but it has the ability to be
used in many of the same common ways people use one, like taking pictures or just sharing photos with others.
It has wi-fi or will dial-up an internet connection."
Will dial-up an internet connection? How on earth can it do that without a modem?
|marne||June 29, 2013, 6:05 am Post #1279|
Yes, I do see where you can click on the video at the HSN site (thank U) but I am on dialup and with 19 minutes
to DL to see it would take ??
Edit: Too long to DL.
|DoctorM||June 29, 2013, 9:16 am Post #1280|
The LG 840G can connect direct to the internet thru its 3G data connection (No need to dial -- just tap the Browser
icon) which will cost minutes, or for free through its WiFi capability (requires a WiFi hot spot, either in your home
network, or at a place like Starbucks, Barnes & Noble, etc.) In the case of connecting thru the WiFi, you have some
choices to connect - with SNS mobile apps (Facebook, Twitter, MySpace) included on the phone, or by tapping the
|marne||June 29, 2013, 10:20 am Post #1281|
Thank you... I misunderstood that quote they meant connecting thru data. I had computer on my brain.
Our town Library has free Wifi and after hours when closed & on weekends, you can sit in your vehicle to get online.
I am planning on using it in a little while to see if I can do the "UTubes"' on a tablet.
The more I read, the more I am getting excited! I just wish we had more stores here that would have those phones
on display to see. The only one is Radio Shack, which I intend to go to, to see the black one that is on display.
Thank you DoctorM for being so patient with me in telling & explaining.
|annepani||June 29, 2013, 11:30 am Post #1282|
Various Kmarts, Targets and BestBuys have the LG 840g on display in black... Are you near any of these?
Maybe even Dollar General or Family Dollar, although probably not on display.
|DoctorM||June 29, 2013, 2:02 pm Post #1283|
If you are inclined towards the HSN deal, I wouldn't wait too long. The phone is a very popular seller and it often
doesn't stay on special for more than a few days -- then it goes up in price to $119+, after which you won't see it
on sale for several weeks...
|phoenix1||June 29, 2013, 2:29 pm Post #1284|
I was just at Amazon and Shopcelldeals now has the LG 840g in white including 600 minutes for $54.99 + $4.99 shipping.
It says they've already tripled the minutes and it's a 90 day card.
|annepani||June 29, 2013, 3:36 pm Post #1285|
Here is the info for shopcelldeals through ebay. Probably pretty much the same if you get it directly from shopcelldeals.com.
LG 840 Shopcelldeals available in white or black Price includes shipping. Note the 600 mins/90 days includes a
$10 Lunch Gift card, bringing the net to $49.99
$36.99 Phone Only
$59.99 600 Minutes/90 Days includes $10 Lunch Gift Card item #140971059663
$99.99 1350 Minutes/90 Days
$109.99 1200 Minutes/One Year
|marne||June 30, 2013, 9:00 am Post #1286|
I want to thank all you kind people here for your help in my buying a new upgrade to the LG 840g.
I have to buy the phone only and purchase a one year card at the local store here in town where I bought my LG
420G in hopes to get everything transferred over as I have no idea how to.. I want a white one and being Radio
Shack here has only the black and if they could order me a white one, it would be more $$ than if I got one from
Shopcelldeals which I have faith in from what I have been reading here.
I want you to know you all made me so happy and I really appreciated all your replies here... THANK you.
I am thinking of ordering after I look at the black one at RS today to be sure colorwise. Hope I don't get too excited
to where I buy it being $$$$ more? (smiles) Sad to have to pass up the HSN deal but with my lack of knowledge, I
have to go the route I decided on. After I get this phone and have all those minutes to play with, I shall try and learn
the how to's so I would be able to do what I should do now to not be in this predicament.
|marne||June 30, 2013, 7:19 pm Post #1287|
Went to see the black LG 840g and think I like it real well. I don't think I like the black frame around the window
of the white ones shown online.
I am seeing so many different prices for the phone alone and am confused with what shows on Amazon like this:
Besides price difference, what does the code at the end mean?
Also, at Radio Shack, the sales person told me the white ones are coming out with a protruding button replacing
the Back curved arrow? ... Anyone see or hear of that?
|DoctorM||July 1, 2013, 2:05 am Post #1288|
The LG or LGIC in a square would just be the manufacturer. which is LG -- no other meaning.
I would be willing to bet big money that the Radio Shack sales person is just giving you BS to try to impress you
(never trust a salesman)... I'm fairly confident the soft keys won't be replaced by hard keys.
I wasn't aware that the white LG 840G had a black bezel around the screen. But I do see it on the HSN video.
My wife has one -- she is at work right now, but I will check it when she comes home.
|marne||July 1, 2013, 5:20 am Post #1289|
Thank you, I will wait.
Am ready to order but would like to hear how she likes the looks compared to the all black one. (fussy me?)
The reason I questioned the different code was cause I read this when buying a memory card from Amazon:
"QUOTE:Do not buy SanDisk cards that have 'Bulk' attached to the name, or 'Frustration-Free', or anything else other
than "Retail"! The Amazon page for this item secretly contains 2 items:SDSDQ-032G-AFFP (Default item. Counterfeit.
Poor chances of receiving a card that's not a knock-off/counterfeit/lesser-quality item, OR an item that was previously
returned/refurbished/slightly-damaged-but-good-enough-for-hassle-free-packaging.) A deal, but, if given the option
CHOOSE (RETAIL PACKAGING) OR YOU WILL RECIEVE A COUNTERFEIT ITEM. No joke.
That was in the customer reviews which turned me a little sour about ordering from Amazon, plus I had to return
something awhile back that was sold for new when it had every indication it was a return item.
EDIT: I just got done ordering the White one from Shopcelldeals... OH! it's HERE already! (Just kidding)
|phoenix1||July 1, 2013, 8:58 am Post #1290|
@marne, in case you still have questions on the LG 840, Tracfone has a great tutorial page, it might be of help to you.
Hope you enjoy your new phone and don't forget, Amazon has some great cases and screen protectors, just make
sure to shop around, some have better deals than others. Usually I go with the ones that have a 95% and above rating.
|marne||July 1, 2013, 10:06 am Post #1291|
|DoctorM||July 1, 2013, 10:23 am Post #1292|
Buying a bulk item only means it won't come in a bubble pack. The prices for such items should be significantly lower.
Sometimes there is no return or no warranty. Very often the items are returned items. But if the price is right, it may be
worth it. I have bought many such products with no regrets.
What I like specially about Amazon are their no-hold-barred user reviews, and a very good return policy.
Amazon vettes its product line pretty well. I have never had any problem with anything I bought through Amazon.
eBay is a different story, more room for disappointment. But in the case of buying from vendors from Hong Kong
or China, the prices or so low, it is often worth the risk.
The white LG 840G does in fact have a thin black bezel around the screen.
My wife loves her white LG 840G -- because, says says, it looks like an iPhone.
Congrats on your buy -- I think you will be well pleased with it.
|phoenix1||July 1, 2013, 1:32 pm Post #1293|
Hey marne, I knew there was more info that might help... it's a list of FAQ that covers just about everything.
You can check them out here.
Also, if for some reason you need to contact customer service here are two numbers that are supposed to
be the easiest to use, there is one listed at their website, but try these two first.
This one is supposed to be the best one: 1-800-626-4883
And if that one doesn't work, try this one: 1-800-876-5753
|marne||July 1, 2013, 10:59 pm Post #1294|
You are a doll!
THANK you so much... This is a keeper.
|DoctorM||July 2, 2013, 1:04 am Post #1295|
The LG 840G is on a one-day special at QVC for $89 including 1500 minutes and 1 year, and a free cover.
However, it does not appear to be a triple-minutes-for-life phone.
(Please note: If the ad doesn't say it is, then don't assume that it is -- when in doubt, call or email and verify.)
Here is the QVC link: QVC special on LG 840G
|sweetiepoosmom||July 2, 2013, 7:35 am Post #1296|
Doc, I just read the fine print -- it IS a triple minutes for life phone:
"How does the TracFone service work? ... You get all of the above, minus the hassle of activation fees, contracts,
monthly bills, or credit checks. You pay for the service up front, and with this package, you get 1,500 total minutes
and 365 days of service to use when activated within 60 days--but, you also get triple minutes for the life
of the phone, which means you get three times the minutes for every single minute you purchase!"
|tfuser19||July 2, 2013, 6:08 pm Post #1297|
Thanks for the alert on this deal. I just ordered one and did get charged sales tax.
I'm not seeing the Tracfone LG 840G on HSN.com ... wonder why.
Maybe they updated the description, as now clearly mentions triple minutes in four places.
From Description section for either black or white:
* Includes LG 840G TracFone smartphone in white, lithium-ion battery, 2GB microSD card, wall charger, car
charger, colored back in your color/pattern choice, Activation Card for 1,500 minutes/365 days of service when
activated within 60 days, triple minutes for life of phone, Welcome Guide, Service Guide, and Wireless4Life
* Triple minutes offer does not include 1,500 minutes included with purchase.
|DoctorM||July 2, 2013, 8:53 pm Post #1298|
My guess is that HSN ran out of Inventory. In their video, they said it was THE most popular phone they sell.
All things considered, when it is on sale at HSN, it is usually THE best deal anywhere.
|phoenix1||July 3, 2013, 9:48 am Post #1299|
Both QVC and HSN are running almost the same deal...well, HSN now gives the cover speaker with theirs and QVC
is doing the extra backs. But, QVC may have the best deal because they are including the free replacement package
with theirs and they are giving 1500 minutes where HSN is only giving 1400.
QVC - white
QVC - black
HSN - white
HSN - black
|marne||July 5, 2013, 2:06 pm Post #1300|
YAY! My LG 840g came today. Ordered Monday but because of the 4th, it came today.
Is it EVER NICE looking. I have it on the charger now (for 5 hours) so didn't turn it on to see if it works??
I am going to see if I can play with it abit before I buy my yearly service card which is due in August.(End date)
Hated to pass up the TV shopping deals but have to have a store transfer stuff for me (my carry over minutes
etc.) as I would surely mess things up being too excited to think straight! That is why I have to buy the card in
town for that.
"Can't buy Firestone tires and have Goodyear put them on! (crusty)"
As long as Radio Shack didn't carry the white phone, (my excuse to buy elsewhere cheaper) I asked if they
would still change over for someone if they bought a white phone elsewhere but the card from them...
They said yes, so I don't feel gutsy about that.
I did get a Lunch gift card with the phone but didn't look to see what that was all about.
THANK you all for all your help and telling me about Shopcelldeals where I ordered from for the 1st time.
Do you have to be activated to get the calendar M/D/Y to stay where you set it to and for the Clock to show the right time?
Don't know where to set that! (I only have the alarm smack in the middle of screen).
Do you have to be activated for the Send key to bring up Menu Options or does it only work for certain things?
(Mine does nothing)
Any of you have a screen protector and is it the SAME as the protector that came with the phone sticking on the
same way only minus the icons on it?
I was looking at AND would LIKE to have a Slider Case like shown in Best Buy's insert of the Sunday paper,
for the Samsung Galaxy! (If that is a protector of the screen)
OH OH! ... I just seen the $$$$ of it. What can I get to protect the screen while rubbing in my pocket?
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