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Topic Started: Jun 30 2011, 04:06 AM (439 Views)
incognoto
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You know when you're raiding with cav and your cav gets TOUCHED by another cav dude? It slows down right? And you're like FUUUUUUU well that cav is dead. Well, after some thinking and a lot of boring and crude browsing of Aoe3's portugeuse, I managed to get rid of that function. I've edited a few files so that units won't slow down once they're hit by melee attacks.

Why did I do this? I wanted to see how the game played out without this slow function. Obviously raiding and melee cav in general have gotten huge boosts with this. But so has retreating and things like multitasking. This mod spices the game up pretty hard, it might even be game breaking but I need people to actually play it to find out.

I used FP launcher for this mod, meaning that you can play with my mod but you can very easily switch back the normal FP or RE. I've checked and it works, thankfully. You can played rated and online no problem.

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Instructions [NOTE, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE FP INSTALLED AND THIS IS FOR TAD]:

1. Download file that I attached.

2. Unzip it.

3. Go to My Documents/My Games/Age of Empires III/Fan Patches and put "FP 1.2.1" there.

4. Copy "slowtactics" and paste it in "My Documents/My Games/Age of Empires III/Fan Patches/AgeSanctuary 1.2/Data" and "My Documents/My Games/Age of Empires III/Fan Patches/TAD 1.03/Data".

5. Run FP launcher and hit FP 1.2.1.


You should be able to run the game and play TAD FP 1.2 on ESO without the slowing down thing. You have to paste the "slowtactics" folder in the Fan Patches folder because .tactics files are in .bar files in Aoe3's files and .bar files aren't touched when the FP launcher does its thing...

Special thanks to Ha_Luke for telling me exactly what I should change and saving me so much time that I probably would have given up trying. Cheers mate.

Download the .rar here

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Edited by incognoto, Jul 3 2011, 07:35 AM.
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Hey!

In the tactic files for each unit(type) you can find this line under each action that defines a handattack:

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<targetspeedboost>1</targetspeedboost>


Maybe this line defines the slow down of the target unit, I'm not sure. You could try it out, remove the line or change the 1 into a 0.

If it works, you have to do it for every tactics file :P I don't know if there is 1 file where the slow down is defined so that you only have to modify 1 file instead of a few dozen :P
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no slowdown means speed wins, pikes/rods become fking useless, imposisble stopping raids.

but ye

cud be fun to see how it works, and btw come on eso sometime !!! I will be on tonight
Edited by Bart331, Jun 30 2011, 05:09 AM.
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thanks for information luke! with this I SHALL RULE the XML! :D
I'm thinking of using some sort of macro if I have to change every tactics file. it *should* be doable. i hope so either way. i'll keep you updated with my progress

you bring up a good point about melee HI being useless, but i'm not sure if they'll be TOTALLY useless. raiding will definitely get boosted, to what extent I don't know though. that's why we gotta try x) i might come on tonight, cya then hopefully ^^

edit, where is the tactics file? in the dataPY.bar or protoy.xml or techtreey.xml ?

don't i need something to "extract" the bar file?
Edited by incognoto, Jul 1 2011, 04:45 AM.
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To extract files from the .bar files you can use a program called AoE3Ed, which can be downloaded from this topic at HG :)

Good luck modding! Remember to make backups :P
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Since I did't ever find any datas about this in the XML files, I assume it's coded in exe.
The same when a formation is turning: the inner units slow down - the outer run quicker.

Posted at HG, I know almost nothing about modding, but still play around with it :D
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how is it done exacatly? units get a 25% slowdown while under atk?
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exe... what the goose is exe.

also i tried extracting the .bar files but after looking around a bit in the different xmls that i found i wasn't sure what to edit. i changed a few things but nothing worked.

looking through random .xmb files now... LOL i found the xml for the world filter with a gazillion swear words in it. xD "prwordlist.xml" haha

EDIT: HOLD EVERYTHING, after a lot of effort on my part i finally found out the exact portugeuse luke was talking about so brb gonna try that.

edit2: check this portugeuse out: http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4759/yeraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.jpg

edit3: lol word filter for portugeuse

EDIT4: WELL GUSY LUKE WAS LIEK 100% RIGHT i changed the targetspeedboost thing and voila, speed thing gone. FP1.3 here i come.

thanks guys, gonna get back to you when i've edited everything :)

edit5: gonna take a while to get rid of every melee attack but np
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-find-and-replace-words-in-multiple-files/

trololo






edit6: think i'm done thanks to notepad++

edit7: it works :) brb gonna make big post :D

Edit8: god damn it, i tried to run normal patch after modding the game and units didn't slow down anymore. mananged to fix it though, thank god. ^^

edit9: this post is too gross for me to post it here, i've edited the first post of this thread
Edited by incognoto, Jul 3 2011, 07:30 AM.
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Nice! Will definitely try it out!
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Nice. This sounds like fun, maybe it could be added to the TE funpatch. I agree its frustrating when a cav gets hit once by the enemy and its practically dead, and thats the kind of frustration I think the funpatch should get rid of B-)
If it turns out to work well, would you mind if we used it in the funpatch?

Btw lol @ this in your topic at HG:
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Well, after some thinking and a lot of boring and crude browsing of Aoe3's portugeuse, I managed to get rid of that function.
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You guys can totally use this for TE funpatch, heck, I don't have the right to tell you what you guys can and can't mod. :p

oh yeah haha i copy/pasted everywhere and apparently you guys were HG's source. :p
Edited by incognoto, Jul 3 2011, 12:33 PM.
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only ppl posting on HG with more then 1 braincell come from this clan
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oh bart btw, i know you have speedpatch installed so i gotta warn you about nilla going OOS. thought FP launcher would prevent this but it apparently doesn't -_- i'd have to rewrite launcher so that it works fine but idk how to do that. anyway the fix is pretty simple.

go to my computer/program files/microsoft games/aoe3/data

then find "slowtactics" and/or "tactics" folder. inside there should be a portugeuseload of .tactics file for every unit/unit-type. getting rid of all of those .tactics files gets rid of speedpatch and fixes your gamE. you can do that by deleting or moving "slowtactics" and/or "tactics" folder. gs had both for some reason. -_- lol

posting this here cuz you're like the only dude who installed speedpatch nesides gs
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lamesauce, l2make patches noob. I already had doubts when i saw ur installation procedure. Patch launcher only replaces and cannot delete ur noob files. By putting seperate files in the map tactics in the patch these maps will get copied in my whole damn data map unable to delete em. (@($@#($@)#*%*()#)*(*%@#(*)%#@)(*

ill make proper patch if i got time k

this is too noob
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Is it possible to make them speed up instead??
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Lol (@ Sunil, Incog and Bart's posts).
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talking of this-- bart during your game with loko the other day (dw won't say who won *wink* ) i noticed you shook of his pursuing cav once by neatly swapping your trailing unit and once by making them ride abreast not in train- how do ye do that portugeuse?
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Rofl sunil that would be so awesome xD
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Jul 6 2011, 04:17 PM
talking of this-- bart during your game with loko the other day (dw won't say who won *wink* ) i noticed you shook of his pursuing cav once by neatly swapping your trailing unit and once by making them ride abreast not in train- how do ye do that portugeuse?
manual click one unit atk chaising units, then click rest of units really short distance (so they dont do train). And then proceed. U can keep runnig wide by clicking multiple times short distance really fast. :wub:

and ye i apreciate u didnt talk about who won :X
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i do:
loko won
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yeh was azzies(me) vs german(defeated nub) ;p
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u lieing about being rusty blablabla and then haxing 140 f 95 w treausre and haxing fake rush then pwning me with lame jags. fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

come nilla and ill pwn u!
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Lol nilla laming nub
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