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Air combat; We need more flying units :P
Topic Started: Jan 12 2010, 11:02 AM (1,868 Views)
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They would need to be properly balanced of course. Outposts should rape airships hard so you cant lame them. And TC's need a large bonus vs. them, as well as forts, and artillery.

I just think it would be kewl with a mothership lol :P
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Lord_Sami
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no.
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no to what?
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Less is more :P
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Lord_Sami
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motherships... go play soase if you want to fight with flying caravels and motherships ffs
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1'm 4 l1ttl3 p1ggy, 01nk 01nk 01nk
lol

taunt 2
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Mariomasta
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Yah stick with what we have
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We now have flying ships, but IMO we need more unique ones (that replace the normal ones for certain civs). Ideas?
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hmm IMO don't go too overboard with flying ships, IMO 3 flying ship per civ is fine
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Umm each civ already has 3 types...and I wont make any more. But some unique ones in replacement for the original ones must be ok?
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Veliem
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Well if you guys are looking for ship replacement for civ, i got some indea for natives and asian.

Aztec, Iroquois, and Sioux: (light flyer) - canoe
(airship) - war canoe
(bomber) - Tlaloc Canoe

Chinese: (light flyer) - canoe or fire junk
(airship) - the huge TAD campaign ship for chinese or war junk
(bomber) - fuchuan

Japanese: (light flyer) - Fune
(airship) - Atakabune
(bomber) - Tekkousen

India: India uses westernize ships since it is colonize by Britain while Japan is independent while China isn't completely taken over yet.
(light flyer) - caravel
(airship) - galleon
(bomber) - monitor

Euro: (light flyer) - caravel
(airship) based on general location in Europe and specialize ships for turks and dutch according to their docks.
- galleon for Britain, France
- galley for Turks
- frigates for german and russsia
- privateer for spain, portugual
- fluyt for dutch
(bomber) - monitor or iron clad

*knight*
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Well that wasn't excactly what I meant but thanks anyway :)

Also I don't want to use the huge ships, since they look even bigger when flying lol.

Ideas I have for unique ships:

Japan: Kamikaze ship (suicide "bomber", replaces light flying, does bonus damage vs. water ships and buildings)
Dutch: flying dutchman (already implemented, flying stealth unit that can also train Ruyters, replaces heavy flying)
(some civ): a small flying stealth ship that can fly fast, can stealth has a big LOS and the spyglass ability, but cant attack (idk what it replaces, if it replaces anything at all)
(some civ): jet plane (fast, light plane that can fire and move rapidly, but has low HP)
(some civ): transport plane (can transport a large ammount of units, no attack)
Aztecs: something that replaces the heavy flying ship, and can train Arrow Knights

Btw we could make some OP new textures for the flying ships, instead of having them just look like normal ships ;)
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yeah pls don't use the large ships because they'll take up too much room and look ugly, max size should be around caravel or something
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lool flying ironclad would cause tremendous lag IMO rofl
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Veliem
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Oh i see.

well that jet plane can go to german since they do use blitzkrieg a few hundreds years later :P

China or Russia should be transport plane since they spam units. :P

Japan would make a good spy plane with all the ninjas it has, sadly i think the kamikaze is better. So Britain, to complement their rockets. Spy where enemy are, rocket that place :D

For aztec, how about a slow moving impregnable plane with a very weak attack (of about 5-10 siege damage around 10 regular attack with a range of 14), that can train arrow knights of batches of 10(if possible) Meant to me a super seige ship, but rely on arrow knights for its siege power :D Hp probably about 2 times that of the heavy flying ship with .1 more resist with a speed that is 30-40% that of heavy flying ship.

And a few more suggestions of unique plane for some civ:
As i mentioned earlier in my post Turks should get galley for its airship since it is a unique ship already made for them like the dutch fluyt. However, i say they get an increase in speed compare to airship, increase in attack, decrease in hp and decrease in resist by .05 or .1 Cause when i think of galley, i think of a fast agile/fragile ship.

hmm How about some civ get like those cluster bomber plane? A heavy flying that can attack ground units and building. It attack like the organ gun 4-6 rapid fire attack with a range of 3, speed is 80% of heavy flying ship, damage set to 35? with a 10-15 multiplier against building, 1.5or2 multiplier against infantry, .75 multiplier against cav. With a 60ROF and an aoe of 4-6. Make it like of those planes that drop a load of bomb as it is flying to cover more area.

For sioux how about a plane that can transport tepee? lol But if the plane die, the tepee die as well.

*knight*
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good idea IMO, join too you have some good idea.
EDIT: I sound like someone that just learnt english lawl.
Edited by KAPOW!, Feb 8 2010, 02:36 AM.
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No flying ironclad invisible!!!!! Flying ironclad is happy, invisible is perfectly fine tho
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how about the flying tapir for Aztecs *rofl*
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Oh i see.

well that jet plane can go to german since they do use blitzkrieg a few hundreds years later :P

China or Russia should be transport plane since they spam units. :P

Japan would make a good spy plane with all the ninjas it has, sadly i think the kamikaze is better. So Britain, to complement their rockets. Spy where enemy are, rocket that place :D

For aztec, how about a slow moving impregnable plane with a very weak attack (of about 5-10 siege damage around 10 regular attack with a range of 14), that can train arrow knights of batches of 10(if possible) Meant to me a super seige ship, but rely on arrow knights for its siege power :D Hp probably about 2 times that of the heavy flying ship with .1 more resist with a speed that is 30-40% that of heavy flying ship.

And a few more suggestions of unique plane for some civ:
As i mentioned earlier in my post Turks should get galley for its airship since it is a unique ship already made for them like the dutch fluyt. However, i say they get an increase in speed compare to airship, increase in attack, decrease in hp and decrease in resist by .05 or .1 Cause when i think of galley, i think of a fast agile/fragile ship.

hmm How about some civ get like those cluster bomber plane? A heavy flying that can attack ground units and building. It attack like the organ gun 4-6 rapid fire attack with a range of 3, speed is 80% of heavy flying ship, damage set to 35? with a 10-15 multiplier against building, 1.5or2 multiplier against infantry, .75 multiplier against cav. With a 60ROF and an aoe of 4-6. Make it like of those planes that drop a load of bomb as it is flying to cover more area.

For sioux how about a plane that can transport tepee? lol But if the plane die, the tepee die as well.

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Those are some very nice ideas Veliem :D

Oh and I guess we can use the flying tapir thing too lol :P
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OOOO i got a fun idea for Iroquois unique ship.

Since i don't believe many people uses the seige unit "Ram" for them, how about replace the light flying with the battering ram :D As a "melee" plane with a range of 1or2 that "ram" other planes with a bonus against heavy flying and airship. Of course since it is a melee plane it should get a slight increase in hp or resistance to make it as good as range light flying, giving it a chance to actually deal damage before getting shot down. Also i'm thinking of giving it a small attack, but a low ROF of about .75-1(since it orginal rof is 1.5)? So it looks like it is ramming the plane alot causing the "metal" exterior to break and cause the plane to sink :D

For India, i can't think of any cool plane, except giving their airship the ability to transport ELEPHANTS only. and maybe be able to train elephants slightly faster than regular? But, if you guys can and want to, you could give india airship a new texture that has "tusk" and kinda resemble an elephant if it isn't too difficult. Kinda like having a flying elephant that "poops" out elephants :D

I believe around this time period, Spain had an amazing armada no? How about making the heavy flying or the light flying shoot cannon balls like the bombard cannon ship in AOE2 or the cannon that come out of fortified tower. With an increase in damage against other plane.

If i think of some more unique ships for other civ i'll post them :D

*knight*
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Feb 8 2010, 08:42 AM
how about the flying tapir for Aztecs *rofl*
omg that's OP!111
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hmmmmm is it possible to give some civ flying animals as pets? flying pets that acts as "petards" against planes. Like ducks getting caught in the plane "engine" causing it to explode or something :D
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Well we do have the flying tapir thing, which would work pretty good for a petard IMO :P

And I guess a flying duck could work too :P (it wont actually flap its wings though :( )
Edited by No_nickname, Feb 11 2010, 10:32 AM.
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Give it to sioux for the zoos
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