| Touchy Subject; Intelligent Design vs. Evolution | |
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| Icicle Sunshine | Apr 9 2009, 02:08 PM Post #1 |
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I've just finished reading a book. A well-written one at that, and I can't help but to feel that one of the characters has a point. Within this book, Evolution, Me & Other Freaks of Nature, there is a huge commotion and disagreement over Intelligent Design and Evolution. What are your thoughts? {And please no badgering people about their thoughts.} |
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| Ryan Pkmn | Apr 9 2009, 09:39 PM Post #2 |
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I think we all live in the present, the past is a mere illusion because we can not prove it's existence. Evolution is then an illusion from this stand point. We our society lacks is that the age of 'pure' understanding has fallen apart. We now taken certain facts as truth, without having the chance to prove it to ourselves. |
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| Friar | Apr 9 2009, 11:55 PM Post #3 |
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Agnosticism = I don't know, I wasn't there, so I ought to keep wondering, never to be sure. As per my actual beliefs, I'll have to refine that spiel a bit. So, for now, we'll stick to what I consider pc. (See above) |
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| Icicle Sunshine | Apr 10 2009, 04:53 PM Post #4 |
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Alright so two votes for what? I'm not exactly quite sure. If we live in the present and cannot prove the past (Or evolution for that matter) was real, is that a tally toward Intelligent Design? And you're not quite decided on which you put your faith in? |
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| Friar | Apr 11 2009, 02:44 AM Post #5 |
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( Keep in mind the use of cheerful sarcasm. This is light-hearted banter. Looking over it, it may have come off as bitter. That is not the case. ) If I might be so bold as to steal a quote; All I know is that I know nothing. Evolution is a theory. Intelligent Design is theological doctrine. Theory is based on a variety of scientific facts, and the conclusions drawn when one takes it upon them-self to cross-reference those facts. Scientific method, and whatnot. So, it's got that going for itself. Theological Doctrine, on the other hand... Um... Well, somebody had to have written it down, originally. So.... Um... "Why not god?" Makes perfect sense. In any case, both ideas have some flaws. Namely, I have some trouble believing that single-celled organisms just decided to pop out their own asses one day, and thus began life on Earth. Life... In a primordial, genetic cesspool. And before you go on about amino acids, and whatnot, save your breath, we've all taken Biology. Intelligent Design, according to Genesis? Seven days? God ripped out Adam's rib, from which he crafted Eve?.... I find it just as likely that existence is a fluke, resulting from God's double-bowel movement which followed a night of heavy drinking and feasting on pretzels. So, I guess you can tally me as undecided, though leaning toward evolution. I hold little stock in the Primordial Soup bit, though. The main reason being is that all further truths regarding the meaning of human existence boil down to nothing; Coincidence; Fate. Who am I kidding, though? The logic behind it is sufficient. Edited by Friar, Apr 11 2009, 02:56 AM.
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| Ryan Pkmn | Apr 12 2009, 09:01 AM Post #6 |
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I do not know too much about evolution, is it like, on the Galapagos islands, when a certain turtle reaches out for taller plants, so much that it's children are able to do so as well? That sounds like a product of conditioning almost. Why some members of the same species evolve, and others do not...some apes stay apes, other apes become humans after a very, very, long time, in which case, we will never see this take place because the change is so gradual and insignificant? I would rather see evolution limited per species. But then again, the origin of life comes into play. So on our perfect Earth, [because it is in the right spot and everything] We have Jupiter to suck up meteors and things; everything seems to be just wonderful...So then it just happens that life appears...and over years and years it gets better. Why should I base my own existence on evolution, which has been created by the ideas and thoughts of other humans, in which I can not prove their existence, or prove that what they have found is true. I know I exist, and that from what I can tell, I am very much human, and I am certain that my ancestors did not come from some primitive species and then became human after a long series of intelligent breakthroughs...like that movie with the giant black...stone thingy. Instead, intelligent design, outside of any theological standpoint, is much more possible, than evolution. All science is flawed because it was observed by humans. |
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| Icicle Sunshine | Apr 12 2009, 09:58 AM Post #7 |
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If I might interject my thoughts in agreeance with both of you. I wouldn't like to put my faith in one single thought of how all of this came to be. So maybe, a God, not one in particular, but a singular God, created the universe. And then with in that fact gave the single-celled organisms the power to rise from their own primordial muck. And let them discover and create on there own whilst leaving some stuff to mystery. Like how only 10% of the Human Genome is yet to be mapped, perhaps that is the part we're supposed to wonder until a God decides humans are ready for that knowledge. |
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