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The Nazi Europe Project
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Topic Started: Nov 22 2010, 09:45 PM (785 Views)
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A mean old man
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Nov 22 2010, 09:45 PM
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Summit thread for the resolution of the NAZI EUROPE ideology conflict here in the SC.
PLAN:
Create new condemnation based on NE's idiosyncratic history rather than on an ideological basis,
Repeal old condemnation,
End this shit.
I've asked AD if he could be present here to aid in this attempt. Any help he can provide will be very much appreciated, and I will list him as a co-author of the resolution unless he would like me to do otherwise. AD has declined.
Condemn NAZI EUROPE - OLD - Quote:
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RECOGNIZING the Nazi ideology as one of hate,
ASSERTING that any region condoning and encouraging such beliefs is a danger to a large range of minorities and cultures,
FURTHER ASSERTING that it is our responsibility to discourage this kind of intolerance,
HOPING that an official condemnation from the World Assembly will discourage people from listening to or believing any messages of hate or intolerance from this region,
the World Assembly hereby condemns the region of NAZI EUROPE.
Condemn NAZI EUROPE - NEW - Quote:
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The World Assembly,
UNDERSTANDING that, during this particular resolution's time at vote, there is already another WASC condemnation of NAZI EUROPE in effect, however recognizing that there has been an ongoing and massive controversy sparked over the other condemnation's denouncement of an ideology and lack of relevance to the region of NE itself and seeking to end said controversy by replacing the other condemnation with a proper piece of WASC legislation,
RECOGNIZING [region]NAZI EUROPE[/region] as a region with a history loaded with particularly heinous acts of hostility and intolerance,
NOTING that NAZI EUROPE has initiated the invasion and destruction of numerous regions, and tends to target regions with a predominant Communist ideology,
FURTHER NOTING that some of these regions, as a result of NAZI EUROPE's detrimental involvement in their affairs, have been utterly annihilated, and recognizing some of said demolished regions as: • The "Alliance of bolshevik states," which, according to its world factbook entry after it was invaded, was "taken from the communists by Nazi Europe," • "Nazi Rehab," the WFE of which, after a foreign invasion, read similarly to the WFE of the Alliance of bolshevik states: "another Communist hell-hole bites the dust courtesy of Nazi Europe," • "Anarchy and Socialist Utopia," which was invaded in late July of 2009 by invaders from Nazi Europe who succeeded in ejecting all the native nations from the region and, despite the revival of the region's founder nation and the dispersal of the NE invaders, evidently succeeded in causing enough lasting damage to the region to bring about its ultimate demise,
DISFAVORING the acts of inhospitality and intolerance made by nations of NAZI EUROPE towards their own subjects and towards other nations in the world, and recognizing some of these acts as: • The hostility expressed by the representative from [nation=short+noflag]Laos Refugees[/nation] when he is communicating with the representatives of other nations in the World Assembly forums, • The deplorable behavior of the representative from Laos Refugees during multiple international summit meetings which has caused said formerly calm and controlled meetings to crumble into heated, hostile arguments between groups of national representatives, • The attempted provocation of Communist nations by the government Laos Refugees, which sought war with said Communist nations, • The attempt of the former delegate of NAZI EUROPE, [nation=short+noflag]Oh My Days[/nation], to liberate the isolationist region "[region]Haven[/region]," which resulted in significant, long-term confusion in the WASC and the inspiration of multiple members of Haven to blacken their reputations in a petulant retaliation against the World Assembly and against the allied regions of NAZI EUROPE (in the form of invasions), • The warlike nature of the nation of [nation=short+noflag]Scarsaw[/nation] (elaborate), • An absurd declaration of war by former nation "The New Aryan People," which stated that all of NAZI EUROPE was to band together against the World Assembly and destroy it,
BELIEVING these actions to be especially abominable and to be in utter opposition of the WASC's goal of spreading interregional peace and goodwill,
HEREBY CONDEMNS NAZI EUROPE.
Repeal "Condemn NAZI EUROPE" - Quote:
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The World Assembly,
NOTING that a second condemnation of [region]NAZI EUROPE[/region], which addresses the region's idiosyncratic faults rather than an only an ideology referenced in the region's name, has been passed by the World Assembly,
FURTHER NOTING that there have already been five previous attempts to repeal the original condemnation of NAZI EUROPE in the past and fearing that, if no compromise is made between the large number of WA members calling for a condemnation of NAZI EUROPE and the members of the SC that are unwilling to allow WASC legislation to condemn a nation for its ideology alone, the conflict over SC Resolution #3 could continue indefinitely,
UNDERSTANDING that having two condemnations of the same region is fairly redundant, and that, since the second condemnation is of much higher quality and is much more relevant to the history of the region that it condemns than the first condemnation, it is only practical to nullify the former condemnation,
ITERATING that it recognizes the poor quality of the first condemnation of NAZI EUROPE and further noting that the original condemnation of NAZI EUROPE sets a precedent of condemning ideologies, or processes of thought,
BELIEVING that, while certain ideologies may be frowned upon by the majority of the WA Member nations of the world, it is not the right or the purpose of the World Assembly to infringe upon people's right to think for themselves,
FIRMLY ASSERTING that the World Assembly is a body that normally works for the spread of freedom and therefore must not inhibit the right to freedom of thought,
RECOGNIZING that, even if the members of the World Assembly would like to abuse the institution's powers by using the WASC to condemn a process of thought, the constant repeal attempts of WASC Resolution #3 are an incredible waste of the WA's time and that the World Assembly will have spent over two and a half weeks of voting time on repeals of WASC Resolution #3 by the end of the vote on this repeal,
FURTHER RECOGNIZING that the representatives from many WA nations are getting terribly, terribly sick of all this and would really like for it to end, please, if that isn't too much to ask,
HEREBY REPEALS WASC Resolution #3, "Condemn NAZI EUROPE."
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Nov 23 2010, 02:16 AM
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Posts of interest from the debate on Uni's repeal:
http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=677053#p677053 - Vaults of Auschwitz as a colony http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=688082#p688082 - details on 3 invasions http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=690093#p690093 - details on another couple of invasions http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=690566#p690566 - more on the above
Yep, they're all my posts OMD did respond to them, and AD might've commented too, so that's worth checking out.
Either way, there's plenty of invasions there to include, even if they are all from a while back. Not sure yet if the Vaults of Auschwitz reference can be put in without violating Rule 4 - there may be a way to sneak a reference in, but I haven't thought about how yet.
Also, you should probably contact all the feeder delegates about this in advance.
Edited by sedge, Nov 23 2010, 02:17 AM.
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A mean old man
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Nov 23 2010, 02:48 AM
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Thanks, Sedge!
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Nov 23 2010, 03:04 AM
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OMD did say that he password raided at least once. He admitted that to me. So let's find the history there.
We could include their roleplay atrocities now that we have Rule IV to confuse gameplay and roleplay, but we'd need something done by an established member, or something representative of Nazi Europe.
Edited by unibot, Nov 23 2010, 03:06 AM.
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Nov 23 2010, 03:25 AM
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Here's some roleplay links I'm making note of, and will research them later.. http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8828 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=39940&p=3676986 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=28897 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=38562 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=318812 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31805 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31430 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30596 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26500&p=1061391 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8172&p=1061000 http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6566&p=216973
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Nov 23 2010, 09:27 PM
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-draft moved to OP post-
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Nov 24 2010, 12:41 AM
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"World Assembly forums"
Is that accurate, didn't those events actually take place in International Incidents? (which also can be bluntly referred to by name .. *whistles*)
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Nov 24 2010, 12:58 AM
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http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=37390
HOW COULD WE FORGET THIS ^^^
Oh, and this seems like an indication of some trouble : http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=56236&p=2388912
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Nov 24 2010, 02:53 AM
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"World Assembly forums"
Is that accurate, didn't those events actually take place in International Incidents? (which also can be bluntly referred to by name .. *whistles*)
No, I was actually thinking of the WA forums. Laos has been a dick in many places, Uni.
(insert penis joke here)
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Ah, yes. "Liberate Haven." Though I have to admit, I was somewhat fond of it. 
Especially after they decided to be a group of asshats in the forums.
But it could certainly be considered condemnable. Whatever material I can use, I suppose.
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Nov 24 2010, 05:38 AM
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"World Assembly forums"
Is that accurate, didn't those events actually take place in International Incidents? (which also can be bluntly referred to by name .. *whistles*)
No, I was actually thinking of the WA forums. Laos has been a dick in many places, Uni.  ( insert penis joke here)
We're the World Assembly, not the World Vagina. 
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Ah, yes. "Liberate Haven." Though I have to admit, I was somewhat fond of it.  Especially after they decided to be a group of asshats in the forums. But it could certainly be considered condemnable. Whatever material I can use, I suppose.
Well, I mean, it was certainly condemnable of Oh my Days to try to manipulate the SC into liberating a totally fine region.
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