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Topic Started: Oct 30 2010, 11:40 PM (982 Views)
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There's a dirty raider proposal attempting to discredit the liberation which has been submitted:

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Liberate Eastern Europe

A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region


Category: Liberation


Nominee (region): Eastern Europe


Proposed by: Independent Vojvodina

Description: WHEREAS Eastern Europe has a long, rich, history of being invaded

CONSIDERING that the current delegate of Eastern Europe, as well as all other residents are native to the region, thus contradicting this long-standing tradition of foreign rule

REMEMBERING that when successive invasions of the region several months ago resulted in 7 delegates in a span of 16 days, it was considered the Golden Age of Eastern Europe

And CONCLUDING that removal of regional password protection will restore this historically accepted reality and tradition

BE IT RESOLVED that password protection be removed from the region of Eastern Europe and no nation, no matter their history, their intent, or their loyalty to the region, be barred from entering Eastern Europe


I reported it for rules violation, as the last clause tries to attempt ejecting/banning nations from the region.
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Got this TG from Flobos:
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The Imperial Democracy of Flobos
New. 9 hours ago Hard to describe. He updated the region description to link the ancient forums for EE. He's somehow gotten through all the security on those as well, and has deleted everything except for one post in which he rants about his victory against some unknown assailant. http://z4.invisionfree.com/Eastern_European_HQ/index.php?showtopic=2289&st=0&#last
and the only other post he's kept:
http://z4.invisionfree.com/Eastern_European_HQ/index.php?showtopic=2240&st=0&#last
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I got the same one. And no ejected list, do you know that natives were ejected though? I haven't been watching the region.
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Post #15 contains a list of nations who were in the region who aren't any more. I don't think they're all natives (judging by the size of them) but its worth contacting all of those with a population of 1 billion and over.
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The World Assembly,

Observing [region]Eastern Europe[/region] has been the victim of numerous raids throughout its history,

Recognizing that both recent delegates [nation]Romani Romania[/nation] and [nation]Czech Mate[/nation] have ejected natives from behind a hidden password,

Outraged that all of the following nations are known to have been ejected from the region by either Czech Mate or Romani Romania:
• The Dog Hold
• Wszechslawia
• Poppapdda
• Carestil
• Zilmatov

Considering the belief of long-time native and former delegate [nation]Flobos[/nation] believes Czech Mate to be a former member from years past attempting to get vengeance upon the region,

Fearing that without intervention the regions doom is imminent because no new nations may enter the region and almost every nation not aligned with the region destroyers have been removed,

Believing Flobos and other natives do not deserve to reside in their region only long enough for the raiders to obtain the influence needed to eject their nations,

Hereby:

Liberates the region of [region]Eastern Europe[/region].

Any suggestions for corrections, additions, or omissions are appreciated. I'll post on NS forums soon, and will submit it early next week I think.
Edited by Topid, Nov 6 2010, 10:13 PM.
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You might want to mention that Eastern Europe were attempting to re-found, but that this process was hi-jacked by Czech Mate et al. I'd also say in the 'recognising' clause that those two have been working together on behalf of an unknown raider group.

I don't know if it's worth listing ejected nations - it might just be better to say something about 'numerous' nations being ejected against their will.

You should probably add that the natives support the liberation, as they want their region back.

The forums could be referenced - the legitimate forums have been 'un-linked' from the WFE, though Rule 4 would make the phrasing tricky.

Finally, you might want to have a different concluding clause to the 'believing' one - something stronger would be better - maybe asserting the right of natives to run their region as they choose.
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The World Assembly,

Observing [region]Eastern Europe[/region] has been the victim of numerous raids throughout its history,

Impressed that the natives of [region]Eastern Europe[/region] attempted to defend themselves by refounding the region,

Upset that the current delegate [nation]Czech Mate[/nation] and the previous delegate [Romani Romania[/nation] have taken control of the refounding effort,


Recognizing that both recent delegates [nation]Romani Romania[/nation] and [nation]Czech Mate[/nation] have ejected natives from behind a hidden password and are working for an unknown raider group,

Outraged that numerous nations are known to have been ejected from the region by either Czech Mate or Romani Romania,

Further outraged that the oppressors have taken emphasis away from the region’s forums,

Considering the belief of long-time native and former delegate [nation]Flobos[/nation] believes Czech Mate to be a former member from years past attempting to get vengeance upon the region,

Fearing that without intervention the regions doom is imminent because no new nations may enter the region and almost every nation not aligned with the region destroyers have been removed,

Knowing the natives of the region support a liberation,

Asserting
Flobos and other natives do not deserve to reside in their region only long enough for the raiders to obtain the influence needed to eject their nations,

Hereby:

Liberates the region of [region]Eastern Europe[/region].
Edited by Topid, Nov 7 2010, 12:05 AM.
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Definitely better. Having thought about it, 'unidentified raider group' sounds better, and avoids people confusing it with the region Unknown.

I'd also say 'legitimate forums', as they've kept a link to some ancient Eastern Europe forums from years back, which hasn't been used for a long time. There might be a better alternative to 'taken emphasis away from', but at the moment I can't think what that could be replaced with. Maybe just 'removed connections to', as that implies a link while remaining R4 compliant.

I still don't like the 'asserting' clause - it seems too timid, saying that the natives don't deserve to be eventually ejected from their region. You should aim for a bit more than that - that the natives have a right to reside in their region, to run it as they choose, free from outside interference... that kind of stuff.
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I hate Rule IV.
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The World Assembly,

Observing [region]Eastern Europe[/region] has been the victim of numerous raids throughout its history,

Impressed that the natives of [region]Eastern Europe[/region] attempted to secure themselves against invasions by refounding the region,

Upset that the current delegate [nation]Czech Mate[/nation] and the previous delegate [Romani Romania[/nation] have taken control of the refounding effort,

Recognizing that both recent delegates [nation]Romani Romania[/nation] and [nation]Czech Mate[/nation] have ejected natives from behind a hidden password and are working for an unidentified raider group,

Outraged that numerous nations are known to have been ejected from the region by either Czech Mate or Romani Romania,

Further outraged that the oppressors have removed the connection between the region and the region’s legitimate forums,

Considering the belief of long-time native and former delegate [nation]Flobos[/nation] believes Czech Mate to be a former member from years past attempting to get vengeance upon the region,

Fearing that without intervention the regions doom is imminent because no new nations may enter the region and almost every nation not aligned with the region destroyers have been removed,

Knowing the natives of the region support a liberation,

Asserting Flobos and other natives deserve a region where they will not be ejected, and where they have the ability to control its fate themselves,

Hereby:

Liberates the region of [region]Eastern Europe[/region].
Edited by Topid, Nov 7 2010, 02:10 AM.
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One last suggestion - "Impressed that the natives of [region]Eastern Europe[/region] attempted to defend secure themselves against invasion by refounding the region,"

You might want AMON to do a grammar check, and Uni to have a look too, as it's always best to get several opinions.
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