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Liberate Haven
Topic Started: Feb 18 2010, 01:33 AM (1,219 Views)
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I understand there's the concerns with the second part (targetting regions like Haven), but I don't see how a liberation resolution would affect a raid (where the invaders have no intention of passwording)?
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Feb 19 2010, 09:29 PM
Yep, I want to create anti-Liberation sentiment, as I believe that they are dangerous and abusive, you don't share my view but many others do.

I know Pyth and Violet love them, but I think that there is a genuine case that they're killing raiding, even if you do view refounding as utterly unacceptable. They won't get rid of them, but I have other ideas.
You've proven your point.

It is possible for a high-ranking important roleplaying group to have a liberation against them reach the voting floor by the will of a manipulative high-ranking delegate with a lot of raider friends who is trying to warn people of liberations being exploitable by exploiting them.

That sets a real precedent to be scared about. Thanks for that. ;)
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I saw a gaping hole in the system, nobody listens so I highlighted the hole by exploiting it. I don't see what's bad about that, and it's part of a wider point that defenders are abusing Liberations too (LoL anyone?)
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Oh My Days
Feb 21 2010, 04:27 PM
(LoL anyone?)
:D

I do think it's sort of funny. I wouldn't want to see Haven actually invaded, but they're an unpleasant bunch and it's kinda fun to see them poked with a stick like this.
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Feb 21 2010, 06:16 PM
Oh My Days
Feb 21 2010, 04:27 PM
(LoL anyone?)
:D

I do think it's sort of funny. I wouldn't want to see Haven actually invaded, but they're an unpleasant bunch and it's kinda fun to see them poked with a stick like this.
Isn't it, though? Nothing like watching humorless blowhards go completely off the rails. And it proves a point quite nicely in addition. Always a plus.
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Well now that Have have invaded Union of the Snake, you could probably write a liberation resolution for Haven saying that its cowardly that they invade another region whilst hiding behind a password - and that if they insist on invading innocent founderless regions, they should be opened up so that they can suffer the same kind of treatment too.
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Lol, that might work but then I would have to write a strongly anti-raider resolution. It would also call into question the idea of raiders protecting themselves from invasion by having founders.
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Let's see how they react to a condemnation.
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Badly it seems, I doubt that they will ever show a willingness to debate. I haven't got the link, so I don't know for sure but apparently they spread a lie that I had my ambassador shot for failing to get the proposal to quorum. I find this hilarious.
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atleast they've increased in maturity: from primary school students fighting on the playground to middle school students spreading rumors
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