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Liberate Free Thought
Topic Started: Jan 6 2010, 02:55 AM (2,403 Views)
Trav-Coch
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sedge
Jan 6 2010, 06:50 PM
Maybe:

"CONCERNED that given the track record of attempting to grief regions which The LKE, The New Inquisition , Europeia and Unknown have, that it is likely that The LKE invaded the region with the motive of refounding the region under their rule;"

I think that clause specifically should follow the previous OBSERVING clause through (like commenting on the implications or the wording itself of the new WFE). The invader coalition can be mentioned in another clause.

Or perhaps:
CONCERNED by the implication that The LKE has invaded the region with the motive of refounding the region under their rule, which is possible given their track record and those of TNI, Europeia and Unknown, the other regions which participated in the raid;

(I don't actually recollect Unknown and Europeia griefing regions, while TNI most probably has. Anyway, the proof of all this should be posted in the SC forum for all to see)

sedge
Jan 6 2010, 06:50 PM

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DISGUSTED by this colossal overreaction by The LKE;

Should be have this? I don't think so.


Well there needs to be some sort of disapproval clause, specifically one which mentiones the disproportionate reaction of The LKE to a jibe about their flag.

Maybe you're right but,
DISGUSTED by this colossal overreaction by The LKE;
doesn't look professional.

Maybe:
DENOUNCING The LKE's over-reaction to the jibes made by Free Thought's natives about its flag; ?

But again, have they actually said so (that they raided Free Thought because of the jibes)?
Edited by Trav-Coch, Jan 6 2010, 07:16 PM.
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SECURITY COUNCIL

Posted ImageLiberate Free Thought
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation | Nominee: Free Thought | Proposed by: Sedgistan


The Security Council,

DEFINING "griefing" as any act wherein where a group of nations, not native to a region, move to it with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position; and then, having seized this position, proceed to forcibly remove natives from the region;

AWARE that The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) originally raided Free Thought on the 4th November, leaving after a brief occupation which involved raising their flag over the region;

NOTING that The Land of Kings and Emperors took offence to the natives of Free Thought removing said flag, and referring to it as "that darn flag";

FURTHER NOTING that The LKE invaded Free Thought again on the 22nd December, installed a secret password, and ejected The Tofu Islands, a native of the region;

DENOUNCING The LKE's over-reaction to harmless jibes made by Free Thought's natives about its flag;

OBSERVING that The LKE have changed the World Factbook Entry of Free Thought to read "This once rebellious region has been conquered by The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) and now forms a permanent part of our continually expanding empire";

CONCERNED by the implication that The LKE has invaded the region with the motive of refounding the region under their rule, which is possible given their track record and those of The New Inquisition, and Unknown, the other regions which participated in the raid;

RECOGNISING that the natives of Free Thought, including Polynumina and Luna Amore, desire to have the region restored to their control;

RESOLVING that this can only be done through the intervention of the Security Council;

HEREBY Liberates Free Thought.

Co-authored by Travancore-Cochin.


I think that incorporates most of your points, let me know if I've missed/mis-interpreted anything.

Unknown do have a record of griefing regions - the region 'Unknown' itself was griefed - by The Brotherhood of Blood, who invaded, passworded & ejected natives, before re-founding it as their new home region. Europeia are less clear-cut, but they've assisted other regions (predominantly The LKE & TNI) when they've griefed.

The LKE have also said that they invaded because of the 'insults' about their flag.
Edited by sedge, Jan 6 2010, 08:39 PM.
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It still does not use the word "griefing" anywhere. There's no need to define it, in that case.

That DENOUNCING clause also needs to be put somewhere else (it looks like an island standing on its own). Now, where to put it... :unsure:

EDIT: The italics in OBSERVING needs to be fixed.

EDIT2: Maybe the DENOUNCING can go before OBSERVING.

EDIT3: BTW, the reply I got from a higher power on a query regarding Unknown and Europeia's griefing activities was along the lines of "Unknown, yes. Europeia, no." But you've got that covered already anyway..
Edited by Trav-Coch, Jan 6 2010, 08:16 PM.
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Jan 6 2010, 08:10 PM
It still does not use the word "griefing" anywhere. There's no need to define it, in that case.

That DENOUNCING clause also needs to be put somewhere else (it looks like an island standing on its own). Now, where to put it... :unsure:

EDIT: The italics in OBSERVING needs to be fixed.

EDIT2: Maybe the DENOUNCING can go before OBSERVING.

EDIT3: BTW, the reply I got from a higher power on a query regarding Unknown and Europeia's griefing activities was along the lines of "Unknown, yes. Europeia, no." But you've got that covered already anyway..
As I said before, I've said 'grief' in the resolution a couple of times - I'd like to add the word griefing - maybe replacing the 'Concerned' clause with "CONCLUDING that The LKE are griefing Free Thought, especially given their track record, and those of The New Inquisition, and Unknown, who have also participated in the raid;"

I've fixed the italics, and moved the denouncing clause as suggested. The above edit ('concluding' clause) would remove reference to Europeia if I went for that change.
Edited by sedge, Jan 6 2010, 08:24 PM.
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Jan 6 2010, 08:24 PM
As I said before, I've said 'grief' in the resolution a couple of times - I'd like to add the word griefing - maybe replacing the 'Concerned' clause with "CONCLUDING that The LKE are griefing Free Thought, especially given their track record, and those of The New Inquisition, and Unknown, who have also participated in the raid;"

I've fixed the italics, and moved the denouncing clause as suggested. The above edit ('concluding' clause) would remove reference to Europeia if I went for that change.
I didn't (and still don't) see "grief" or "griefing" in the latest draft, that's why I raised the issue, but the suggested change is perhaps the best (CONCERNED -> CONCLUDING).

BTW, I was talking about this "higher power" from my perspective. You're the Arch Chancellor of the FRA, and you have evidence and records much like this "higher power" of mine has. If you've seen Europeia griefing, let the references to them remain.
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SECURITY COUNCIL

Posted ImageLiberate Free Thought
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation | Nominee: Free Thought | Proposed by: Sedgistan


The Security Council,

DEFINING "griefing" as any act wherein where a group of nations, not native to a region, move to it with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position; and then, having seized this position, proceed to forcibly remove natives from the region;

AWARE that The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) originally raided Free Thought on the 4th November, leaving after a brief occupation which involved raising their flag over the region;

NOTING that The Land of Kings and Emperors took offence to the natives of Free Thought removing said flag, and referring to it as "that darn flag";

FURTHER NOTING that The LKE invaded Free Thought again on the 22nd December, installed a secret password, and ejected The Tofu Islands, a native of the region;

DENOUNCING The LKE's over-reaction to harmless jibes made by Free Thought's natives about its flag;

OBSERVING that The LKE have changed the World Factbook Entry of Free Thought to read "This once rebellious region has been conquered by The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) and now forms a permanent part of our continually expanding empire";

CONCLUDING that The LKE are griefing Free Thought, especially given their track record, and those of The New Inquisition and Unknown, who have also participated in the raid;

RECOGNISING that the natives of Free Thought, including Polynumina and Luna Amore, desire to have the region restored to their control;

RESOLVING that this can only be done through the intervention of the Security Council;

HEREBY Liberates Free Thought.

Co-authored by Travancore-Cochin.


Regarding Europeia, I also remembered that the FRA has an embassy with them, and that they helped us in Feudal Japan, so I'd be cautious about calling them griefers, although they have helped beforehand.

I think this latest draft is pretty good, I'll leave it for a while so that Uni & others can comment.
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this is just my opinion but "griefing" to me is ether re-founding or locking down a region to use as a trophy, clearly Unknown does not use Unknown as a trophy it build the region up. perhaps a record for those regions listed as "having a track record" could be provided.
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I'll make sure that such a list is provided in the thread on the NS forums, but I'd rather not include that in the resolution text.
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We have submission, which means its time for a telegram campaign!
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Jan 6 2010, 08:46 PM

Regarding Europeia, I also remembered that the FRA has an embassy with them, and that they helped us in Feudal Japan, so I'd be cautious about calling them griefers, although they have helped beforehand.

I think this latest draft is pretty good, I'll leave it for a while so that Uni & others can comment.
Europeia's delegate supported neither "Liberate Utopia" nor "Liberate Land of the Liberals" (I later said thank you to him for not voting for it). However, he has supported the condemnation of Macedonia, which I don't even support. The next resolution I submit, I'll make sure I have his support first. :P
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