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Liberate Free Thought
Topic Started: Jan 6 2010, 02:55 AM (2,396 Views)
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I might propose this -- The Land of Kings and Emperors & a few other regions invaded it & have passworded it - and are kicking out natives. They'd originally invaded it just for a brief raid, but when the natives removed the flag that The LKE imposed and then made a couple of comments about it, The LKE came back and invaded.


Ejected natives: The Tofu Islands

Natives remaining: Luna Amore, Polynumina

EDIT: Have contacted those 3, and if I hear back, I'll enquire as to whether there are other natives around who've already been kicked.

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The Democratic Archipelago of The Tofu Islands
Received: 81 minutes ago I was the newest of the natives (I had been there since August, maybe a bit earlier). I'd support a liberation, but it's not that critical to me.
Edited by sedge, Jan 6 2010, 09:52 AM.
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you know, I was thinking I'd actually support this. I'm all for raiding but, I mean they already did, and keeping the natives under that tight of control is just mean. however, I am inclined to believe that this is simply an attack on raiders, the natives have done more than just change the flag, I believe they have said things to annoy the raiders occupying it in some way. They were baiting them. Also IMO if someone want's to password grief, they should be able too
Edited by Kalibarr, Jan 9 2010, 09:29 PM.
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Jan 6 2010, 03:27 AM
you know, I'd actually support this. I'm all for raiding but, I mean they already did, and keeping the natives under that tight of control is just mean.
*nod*

You have my support, Sedge.
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SECURITY COUNCIL

Posted ImageLiberate Free Thought
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation | Nominee: Free Thought | Proposed by:


The Security Council,

DEFINING "griefing" as any act wherein where a group of nations, not native to a region, move to it with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position; and then, having seized this position, proceed to password-protect the region, eject and ban natives and possibly refound under their aegis;

NOTING that Free Thought was invaded by The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) on December 22, 2009, and that their delegate has now password-protected the region;

FURTHER NOTING that the World Factbook Entry of Free Thought reads, at the time of drafting this resolution, thus:
This once rebellious region has been conquered by The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) and now forms a permanent part of our continually expanding empire;

CONCERNED over the implication of the World Factbook Entry that The LKE has invaded the region with the motive of possibly refounding the region under their rule;

FURTHER CONCERNED over the ejection and banning of The Tofu Islands, a native of the region;

AWARE that The Tofu Islands has expressed his desire for the region to be liberated;

CONCLUDING that the actions of The LKE amount to griefing;

HEREBY liberates Free Thought by lifting the password on the region, and forbidding the region from being password protected by its WA Delegate.


Here's a draft I prepared. I wouldn't want this to be submitted until there's more native support. Luna Amore appears apathetic to the invasion itself, but has questioned The LKE's banjection of The Tofu Islands.
Edited by Trav-Coch, Jan 6 2010, 12:54 PM.
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Just got this telegram:
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The Strategic Geniuses of Luna Amore
New. Received: 3 hours ago I'm all for it. These invaders have lost their novelty.
Thanks for the help.


I'll look over that draft pretty soon and hopefully get a finished version done by the end of the day, as I want to get this submitted ASAP.
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SECURITY COUNCIL

Posted ImageLiberate Free Thought
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation | Nominee: Free Thought | Proposed by: Sedgistan


The Security Council,

DEFINING "griefing" as any act wherein where a group of nations, not native to a region, move to it with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position; and then, having seized this position, proceed to forcibly remove natives from the region;

AWARE that The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) originally raided Free Thought on the 4th November, leaving after a brief occupation which involved raising their flag over the region;

NOTING that The Land of Kings and Emperors took offence to the natives of Free Thought then removing said flag, and referring to it as "that darn flag";

FURTHER NOTING that The LKE invaded Free Thought again on the 22nd December, installing a secret password, and beginning to grief the region by ejecting The Tofu Islands, a native of Free Thought;

OBSERVING that The LKE have changed the World Factbook Entry of Free Thought to read "This once rebellious region has been conquered by The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) and now forms a permanent part of our continually expanding empire";

CONCERNED that given the change to the World Factbook Entry, and the past record of The LKE and its partners-in-crime, The New Inquisition , Europeia and Unknown, who all have a record of attempting to grief and re-found regions to incorporate them as part of their empires, that it is likely they will attempt the same here;

DISGUSTED by this colossal overreaction by The LKE;

RECOGNISING that the natives of Free Thought desire to have the region restored to their control, and that this can only be done through intervention by the Security Council;

HEREBY Liberates Free Thought.

Co-authored by Travancore-Cochin.


I'm not sure about the phrasing of some of the clauses, and also the ordering of them, but it includes the content which I want in the resolution.
Edited by sedge, Jan 6 2010, 05:37 PM.
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World Factbook Empire?

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Jan 6 2010, 05:23 PM
World Factbook Empire?

:D
Woah - I shouldn't write things so soon after waking up :blink:
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Okay, now for real suggestions..

OBSERVING that The LKE have changed the World Factbook Empire Entry of Free Thought to read "This once rebellious region has been conquered by The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) and now forms a permanent part of our continually expanding empire";

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CONCERNED that given the change to the World Factbook Empire, and the past record of The LKE and its partners-in-crime, The New Inquisition , Europeia and Unknown, who all have a record of attempting to grief and re-found regions to incorporate them as part of their empires, that it is likely they will attempt the same here;


I'm not sure whether it's prudent to have such a clause, especially with phrases like "partners-in-crime".

Suggested rewording: CONCERNED by the implication that The LKE has invaded the region with the motive of refounding the region under their rule, which is possible given their track record;

('Track record' may need to be presented to the SC forum for all to see)

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DISGUSTED by this colossal overreaction by The LKE;

Should be have this? I don't think so.

I suggest that this clause be preserved:
CONCLUDING that the actions of The LKE amount to griefing;

It's because the resolution has defined what "griefing" is, but hasn't used the word in a clause.

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RECOGNISING that the natives of Free Thought desire to have the region restored to their control, and that this can only be done through intervention by the Security Council

Examples can be put directly into the clause itself, and the second part needs to be snipped and moved into a clause of its own.
RECOGNISING that the natives of Free Thought, including The Tofu Islands and Luna Amore, desire to have the region restored to their control;

RESOLVING that this can only be done through the intervention of the Security Council;

So, the draft with my suggestions should look like:
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SECURITY COUNCIL

Posted ImageLiberate Free Thought
A resolution to strike down Delegate-imposed barriers to free entry in a region

Category: Liberation | Nominee: Free Thought | Proposed by: Sedgistan


The Security Council,

DEFINING "griefing" as any act wherein where a group of nations, not native to a region, move to it with the aim of seizing the WA Delegate position; and then, having seized this position, proceed to forcibly remove natives from the region;

AWARE that The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) originally raided Free Thought on the 4th November, leaving after a brief occupation which involved raising their flag over the region;

NOTING that The Land of Kings and Emperors took offence at the natives of Free Thought then removing said flag, and referring to it as "that darn flag";

FURTHER NOTING that The LKE invaded Free Thought again on the 22nd of December, installed a secret password, and ejected The Tofu Islands, a native of Free Thought;

OBSERVING that The LKE have changed the World Factbook Entry of Free Thought to read "This once rebellious region has been conquered by The Land of Kings and Emperors (The LKE) and now forms a permanent part of our continually expanding empire";

CONCERNED by the implication that The LKE has invaded the region with the motive of refounding the region under their rule, which is possible given their track record;

CONCLUDING that the actions of The LKE amount to griefing;

RECOGNISING that the natives of Free Thought, including The Tofu Islands and Luna Amore, desire to have the region restored to their control;

RESOLVING that this can only be done through the intervention of the Security Council;

HEREBY Liberates Free Thought.

Co-authored by Travancore-Cochin.


But I still have concerns, mainly because of this:
FURTHER NOTING that The LKE invaded Free Thought again on the 22nd of December, installed a secret password, and ejected The Tofu Islands, a native of Free Thought;

This implies that all these actions took place on the same day (they didn't).
Edited by Trav-Coch, Jan 6 2010, 06:13 PM.
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Jan 6 2010, 05:39 PM
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CONCERNED that given the change to the World Factbook Empire, and the past record of The LKE and its partners-in-crime, The New Inquisition , Europeia and Unknown, who all have a record of attempting to grief and re-found regions to incorporate them as part of their empires, that it is likely they will attempt the same here;


I'm not sure whether it's prudent to have such a clause, especially with phrases like "partners-in-crime".

Suggested rewording: CONCERNED by the implication that The LKE has invaded the region with the motive of refounding the region under their rule, which is possible given their track record;

('Track record' may need to be presented to the SC forum for all to see)
Well I want the other participants mentioned, and their track record in attempting to grief regions to be mentioned in the resolution.

Maybe:

"CONCERNED that given the track record of attempting to grief regions which The LKE, The New Inquisition , Europeia and Unknown have, that it is likely that The LKE invaded the region with the motive of refounding the region under their rule;"

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DISGUSTED by this colossal overreaction by The LKE;

Should be have this? I don't think so.


Well there needs to be some sort of disapproval clause, specifically one which mentiones the disproportionate reaction of The LKE to a jibe about their flag.

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I suggest that this clause be preserved:
CONCLUDING that the actions of The LKE amount to griefing;

It's because the resolution has defined what "griefing" is, but hasn't used the word in a clause.


Well I've said 'grief' a couple of times, though not griefing.

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RECOGNISING that the natives of Free Thought desire to have the region restored to their control, and that this can only be done through intervention by the Security Council

Examples can be put directly into the clause itself, and the second part needs to be snipped and moved into a clause of its own.
RECOGNISING that the natives of Free Thought, including The Tofu Islands and Luna Amore, desire to have the region restored to their control;

RESOLVING that this can only be done through the intervention of the Security Council;


True, I like that.

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But I still have concerns, mainly because of this:
FURTHER NOTING that The LKE invaded Free Thought again on the 22nd of December, installed a secret password, and ejected The Tofu Islands, a native of Free Thought;

This implies that all these actions took place on the same day (they didn't).


Yep, I'll re-write that slightly. Latest draft will be in a new post, as this one is long enough already.
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