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Topic Started: Nov 12 2009, 09:11 AM (805 Views)
Gina
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Re. grub version number - yes it's called 1.97 or something like that. It's a Beta version for grub2. They aren't actually labelling it grub2 yet! It's THAT rough!

RE. ticks - yes, I expect you're right. I'll look at the standard Ubuntu 9.10. I might install that on my P4 and see if the new grub allows booting of XP too. Any problem and I can soon reinstall 9.04. All I want on that machine is one version of Ubuntu and XP. I seem to have changed my PC usage :lol The AMD64 has become my main machine of choice with the P4 relegated to running XP and my weather station software. Of course, it's not really surprising that I want to use my newest and fastest machine most of the time :lol

So, I shall be having a big think :conf about my various computers.

P.S. I've another post on the previous page of this thread about Karmic.
Edited by Gina, Nov 13 2009, 04:39 PM.
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Yes. I was saying exactly that - there was just one poor release out of about 8 releases (was it feisty? or edgy?). Anyway I hope they get things back on track for the next one.
Once I got the nvidia drivers on it all went well, but not getting to desktop is not acceptable especially considering it worked perfectly in the previous release and also worked perfectly from the live CD.
Not sure what went wrong really? If it installed the wrong driver or it detected this nvidia card decided it needed a specific nvidia driver for it that wasn`t on the disc, so it just gave up?
Its one of those where the driver needs to be downloaded from the web, but if you can`t get to the desktop/web you`re screwed.
There should be a way of just asking it to use a basic working driver (ie the one the have on the live cd) if a certain driver fails for whatever reason. I tried to reconfigure the xserver but it wasn`t having it.
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Yes, good point! And yes, if it worked from DVD it should be alright when installed. There is obviously a working driver on the disc for it to work with DVD. I hadn't picked up that point - must be a bit dopey today! :lol There seem many odd things about this release. Just wondering if they're using HAL for the DVD running. Will have to check the text mode startup and see if it uses HAL.

I was trying to think which version was the duff one - it was Edgy, I'm pretty sure.
Edited by Gina, Nov 13 2009, 09:10 PM.
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Those ticks ARE the UE theme and not native to Karmic. The latter has little square boxes with rounded corners that show a tick for format, white inside for "don't format" and grey for partitions not used in the installation. That is quite clear :) What isn't quite clear is how to get it to install as I posted elsewhere. Maybe I'll have more success tomorrow.
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I`d retry Gina. Its just a borked install by the sounds of it.

Back on the UE themes - I`m not a huge fan tbh. I know a lot of work goes into UE and some of the theme stuff is brill, but some of it just doesn`t work for me. This is a case in point where the theme features make the interface less clear. I found some of the menus difficult to read with some of the UE default themes.
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Yes, I'm going to retry. I gather the systems installed but the grub install failed. So I'm going to do what was suggested in Ubuntu Forums - create a small (20MB) partition, install grub legacy into that and set it to chainload other OSs. I understand that. So the MBR will point to the grub menu list in the new partition and that loads everything from there. I'm about to set all that up :)

Actually, thinking about it I might just try adding a chainload link to K from the current menu list, which is loading everything else fine.
Edited by Gina, Nov 14 2009, 10:42 AM.
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OK... done that and it booted into UE 2.4. Then I ran Firefox and it checked plugins and upgraded a whole dose of them. Then the system restarted, all on it's own!! When I tried running Firefox nothing happened! :( :( Back to the drawing board! Thinking cap on - what to do next. Maybe try standard Karmic. Meanwhile I'm typing this on the laptop...
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:rofl I thought you`d cracked it for a minute.
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Gina
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Yes! This is turning out to be a hard nut!! :( Going to have another go with plain Karmic.
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Set up the chainloader link in menu list but it couldn't find Karmic. So I tried reinstalling Karmic, specifying the location to put the loader. Again it came up with the error that it couldn't install grub and that the new system would not be bootable!! GRRR!! Hopeless! Perhaps I'll see if I can install grub2 manually, but so far it seems like trying to travel uphill on ice - getting absolutely nowhere!!! Maybe I'll post in Ubuntu Forums or at least have a read. If I can be bothered anymore!!! :( :(
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:rolleyes :shakehead :rolleyes
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I've posted in Ubuntu Forums in the Lucid Lynx Dev forum so we'll see what answers I get, if any :)
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Had a couple of replies but only of the type "should work" and "just the sort of environment for grub2" :whistle

I've just tried installing standard 9.10 (32 bit) in a brand new partition on my AMD64 - got to "Installing grub2 into /dev/sda12" and crashed!! So back in UE 2.3. :rolleyes
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This (attached) is the error when installing onto P4. It was suggested that I try installing without a separate /home and see - but it made no difference. Which I have reported back.
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Edited by Gina, Nov 14 2009, 08:50 PM.
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Got some more things to try. That will be tomorrow - I've had quite enough of it today!! :lol

Not a lot achieved in the last two days!!!! :( :rolleyes
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I have had several replies in Ubuntu Forums and done some testing. I won't copy it here as it's now on the 3rd page but here is a link to my thread :-
Ubuntu Forums - Ubuntu 9.10 won't install grub
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I read your topic. If I had any hair left it would have been wafting in the breeze as it went straight over my head :rofl

There are some uber geeks at the Ubuntu forums.
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:lol Yes, pretty high powered stuff I'd have to agree. I was most chuffed at ranch hand's comment on my setup :) And I was amused at his 4 HDs and 22 OSs :lol

Seems to me this latest version is alright either on it's own or alongside Windows but it's not happy alongside other versions of Linux.

I have a few thoughts and a couple of things to try to get grub2 tamed! I've got the bit between my teeth and I don't give up easily! :lol I can be an obstinate so-and-so at times :lol
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WELL!! I've now got 9.10 working on my P4 by using the Alternate CD and setting grub2 to install into the MBR - it still refused to install into sda12 - giving a fatal error. To I went back a step and ran the boot loader part again, this time specifying the MBR, which worked.

Next step is to see if the other OSs will boot :whistle

I'm in 9.10 now.
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A boot loader failure is unacceptable. They really ought to get this fixed for the LTS.
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