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Ultimate Edition 2.4
Topic Started: Nov 12 2009, 09:11 AM (804 Views)
Phaedrus
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You can download it early via the UE forum:
http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=65&t=4034

Its very slow at the minute.
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Gina
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Yes, I'm downloading it now and only getting around 70 KB/s download speed. 8 hours left :whistle

Thanks for the info Trev :) but I checked last night on the laptop (in bed) and it was uber-slow then too so left it till today to download on AMD64.

The UK mirror site isn't working for me so using main site and unixheads, though there doesn't seem to be much difference between those. We could be with bittorrent for this :lol
Edited by Gina, Nov 12 2009, 10:10 AM.
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Phaedrus
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Its so slooooooow. I tried the Italian server which was the same. The Ozzie one is for Bigpond customers and is IP filtering.
6hrs47min...............
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Gina
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About 5 or 6 hours left for me now :( I suppose like British Railways used to say "We're getting there" Though they left out the "slowly" :lol I'm downloading both 32 and 64 versions at the same time and the race is on as to which finishes first :lol With the speed being limited at the server end there is no loss of speed on the individual files.
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Phaedrus
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Disaster. I left my laptop on battery and it ran out. I lost the download!

Starting Again :shakehead
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Phaedrus
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OK rebooted to Ubuntu (I was in Windows when I`d started the last download). Started the download again in UE using the UK server, and it`s coming in at 700+kB/sec 45minutes to go. :thumbsup
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Gina
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AH!!! The UK server's working then? :) I'll try that. I had a disaster too - darn system locked up and I had to reboot :( The servers I'm downloading from ATM are running ultra slow - a few tens of KB/s - 11 hours on one and over a day on the other - which is useless! :(
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Gina
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Well, I can't find the UK d/l site now and the ones listed on the UE page all seem pretty slow :( Can you give the the URL of the server you're using please? :)
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Phaedrus
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http://xlab.in/ultimate-edition-2.4-x86.iso
Thats for the x86 version obviously

And the 64
http://xlab.in/ultimate-edition-2.4-x64.iso
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Phaedrus
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The iso is in and burning with k3b as I type :)
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Gina
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Thanks Trev :) :) Good luck with your installation :)

Still only getting 30-50KB/s d/l speed :conf Strange - maybe there's a slow link in the path my data is taking.
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Phaedrus
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Running it off the disc and first impressions are good. I didn`t like the default theme in 2.3. Its better in 2.4, but still a bit goth for me. Its easily changed though.
Even though I`m running off the disc and will lose settings I still configured Compiz. I`m so used to working in 3 dimensions now.
I can see there are apps that were not included in the default install of 2.3 but can`t see any major reason to change from 2.3 tbh.
I`ll install it on the desktop upstairs, but keep 2.3 on the lappy.
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Gina
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I wondered what extra there was to account for the ISO size increasing from about 2GB to 2.4.

I'm going to install it so that I can have everything on my AMD64 booting with grub2. Then I can have Lucid Lynx development version running beside UE2.4

5 hrs left for 32 bit d/l and 6.5 for 64 bit. Slowly getting there :) If no crashes I shall have both ready for tomorrow.

I've been running U 9.04 in VB under Win XP on my P4. Gawd it's slow!! Probably lacking memory - I've only got 1GB on that machine. I've looked at adding extra RAM but it's expensive. Also, been trying to run webcam to handle my weathercam but have v4l problems to sort out. Need to do some thinking...
Edited by Gina, Nov 12 2009, 10:35 PM.
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Gina
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No crash overnight :) 32 bit version has just completed downloading and the 64 bit has 40 mins to go. So I expect to be installing today. I'll check it before actually installing.
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Phaedrus
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Good luck with the installs. :)
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Gina
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Both versions downloaded successfully and md5sums checked. Put 32 bit version on USB stick and been trying it from there - looks good :) I'll probably change the theme. Like you, I think it looks a bit too goth.

Just a slight hiccup on the part of the operator :lol Tried to put 2.4 GB on a 2GB stick :whistle No prob with the 4GB one :)
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Well it looks like UE 2.4 is a NO GO!! :( :( I ran the 32 bit version from USB stick on my AMD64 as I said and it looked alright. Then I tried installing it. I started to install it over v2.3 but things didn't look right so I aborted before any HD changes were applied. Then I checked my partitions and found one I didn't want of 18GB - perfectly adequate IMO. So decided to install into that. It gave a warning that there was only 5.9MB of disk space left, which is ridiculous. There are no full (or nearly full) partitions all have several GB of space and there is an unused section of the 500GB HD of several tens of GB. The USB stick is using 2.4GB out of an available 3.7 so it's not that either.

Anyway, I carried on (with care) having clicked on "Check" which scanned all the HD and USB drive and confirmed what I knew. Then clicked the "Ignore" button to sent the msg away and carried on with the installation. There are things I don't like about the user interface. In the partitioning screen (manual) there is a Format column with a column of white ticks. That rang alarm bells!! Naturally. BUT it didn't mean it was going to format every partition!! When you set a partition to be formatted the tick turned from white (or pale grey) to yellow. I was unhappy - and I'm a died-in-the-wool computer geek! what would a lesser experienced user think??!! Probably "I'm not touching this with a bargepole!"

Being a proper "clever clogs" I carried on - assigning root to sda5, with format and /home to sda8 (previous /home) with no formatting and carried on. As per instructions in Ubuntu Forums, when the time came to assign where to put the grub2 boot file I set it to sda5, the system partition. Apparently if you assign it to the whole drive, all other partitions become unavailable! A nasty bug that they expect to cure in Lucid Lynx.

OK installation proceeded (more slowly than with previous versions) and duly completed and I told it to restart. The grub menu seemed to be as before but with no sign of 9.10. At the top was 9.04 which is UE 2.3 and which I'm in now, as if nothing had happened. I just wonder what would have happened if I'd installed UE 2.4 over (and deleting) 2.3. I think I'd be posting from my laptop!!

I'll investigate further sometime but for the moment I'm sticking with UE 2.3. Now I think I'll go and have a lie down!...
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I had problems installing UE 2.4 on the desktop. :bugeyes
The nvidia driver wouldn`t load and so I was stuck at a command prompt - which meant I couldn`t get to the Desktop to configure the wireless internet connection (via a dongle) to fix it. :rolleyes
Had to run a long LAN cable upstairs and boot to a root shell (with networking) and installed the nvidia 173 driver manually from there. (apt-get install nvidia-glx-173).
Luckily i`m not phased by the terminal but a noobie would have been stumped. :shakehead
Well its up and running now and the wireless dongle is working after putting in the pass key.

Karmic is looking like a one step forward-two steps back release for some users. I hope they do a better job with Lucid in April.
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Oh btw I know what you mean about the grey to yellow ticks. I presume this is a UE 2.4 theme thing rather than a Karmic thing? Its the same when you are changing settings in Compiz. The light ticks are there when something isn`t selected and change to yellow when selected.

Dunno about Grub Gina? Unless i`m missing something? I thought I saw Grub 1.9 beta or something? I`ll have to check on the next boot.
I opted to use the previous Jaunty install (leaving 3 other partitions) and put Grub at "/" root.
I formatted to Ext4 which was Ext3 previously. All partitions are active and working normally.
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I think Karmic is a Beta or even an Alpha for Lucid and 10.04 LTS :whistle Although I haven't been testing, I have been following some of the stuff in Ubuntu Forums - Karmic Koala Development forum. The discussion is continuing in the Lucid Lynx Development forum. There have been several major changes this year. Grub replaced by grub2, HAL (Hardware Access Layer) has been replaced too (forget with what) and one or two other changes I forget now. The grub mismatch problem has been mentioned as a "show stopper". There is a problem too with the HAL replacement not recognising some hardware. To my mind it's a mess :( I'm far from the only one thinking that too. Some have said they think 9.10 wasn't ready for release! I'm afraid I can't recommend it! However, it's only the second duff release I've seen while I've been involved in Ubuntu though, covering 8 or 10 version releases. So I guess that's not a bad average. M$ had a duff one with ME and Vista was rather poor, with W7 reckoned to fix all that was wrong with Vista. I think XP was (and still is) a pretty good version of Windows, having been patched.
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