Victor vs LMZF world VI

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Victor vs LMZF world VI; An idea
Topic Started: 20 Aug 2008, 01:59 AM (245 Views)
DarudeXII	20 Aug 2008, 01:59 AM Post #1
Sergeant First Class Posts: 161 Group: Foxtrot Member #385 Joined: Jun 8, 2008	I thought about this the other day - how about Victor - winner of season 1 and dominating season 2 - have a squad match against the best that the rest have to offer? And for charity? The way how the charity would work is that those in either match pay a set amount to play in the game and the winning team wins their money back. The "Best VI" would be chosen by members of this forum in a poll. I think its a good idea - and its for charity. What do you think?



kingdingaling99	20 Aug 2008, 02:16 AM Post #2
Director of Tournament Posts: 1,632 Group: X-Ray Member #276 Joined: May 22, 2008	no one should win there money back though all funds should be given to the charity :-) but thats if the victor boys are up for it that is . But tbh i would still bet that victor win and not just because i was with them but the fact that they work as 1 unit and even if the best of the best cod players from lmzf would not stand a chance as there would be no teamwork . And there is only so many kills you can get from one game :-) good for the charity though



Dandandandaman	20 Aug 2008, 08:48 AM Post #3
Posts: 294 Group: LMZF Moderator Member #283 Joined: May 22, 2008	I can't speak for the rest of Victor but I think it is a good idea. Only thing is I remember something being mentioned previously about putting together a best of the best team and there was a lot of people against the idea. People thought that trying to identify the best players is really difficult and may lead to some people felling alienated. Probably best to see what the majority think



kingdingaling99	20 Aug 2008, 08:57 AM Post #4
Director of Tournament Posts: 1,632 Group: X-Ray Member #276 Joined: May 22, 2008	@ dan ,,, yup i remember that well lol ,, could work if each team puts forward a candidate by poll ,, so if each team put a poll in there squad rooms listing there players then the winner of said poll gets put forward so that way there should not be the feeling of eliteism... but hey im just thinking its a good way to get some money rolling into the new charity ...



Dandandandaman	20 Aug 2008, 09:08 AM Post #5
Posts: 294 Group: LMZF Moderator Member #283 Joined: May 22, 2008	That sounds like a good idea to me but why not then allow each person chosen to take part, I mean there is what - 11 squads so it would just mean a few would have to rotate and there is never going to be a day/time when everybody can make it



Ivor_Bigun	20 Aug 2008, 09:10 AM Post #6
Professional::Killer Posts: 3,439 Group: LMZF Moderator Member #252 Joined: May 21, 2008 PSN name Ivor_Bigun	Yep, well spotted Dan! The "elite" teams thread got out of hand and caused many arguments. Who's the best is not what LMZF is all about. I like the idea in principle though.....and it's for charity but if it starts to cause problems like before then it will have to be scrapped i'm afraid!! A player from each squad is a good idea rather than a vote on here. Edited by Ivor_Bigun, 20 Aug 2008, 09:12 AM.



RSM71	20 Aug 2008, 09:16 AM Post #7
Prestige Level 2 Posts: 1,252 Group: Victor Member #331 Joined: May 22, 2008	Tricky 1 !! Anyway y has everyone got it in for us :bigrofl



danf_42	20 Aug 2008, 09:20 AM Post #8
Prestige level 7 Posts: 2,816 Group: X-Ray Member #286 Joined: May 22, 2008	Why don't we do the same as the 'Mods vs everyone' match? Where anyone can pay and play for a stab at Victor :gr8: That way we avoid the whole 'who's better than who' thing.



kingdingaling99	20 Aug 2008, 09:21 AM Post #9
Director of Tournament Posts: 1,632 Group: X-Ray Member #276 Joined: May 22, 2008	hmmmmmm wonder why lol wouldn't be the many 5-0 thrashings you dish out would it lol pmsl....



RSM71	20 Aug 2008, 09:22 AM Post #10
Prestige Level 2 Posts: 1,252 Group: Victor Member #331 Joined: May 22, 2008	Good idea Danf, better than the my c##k is bigger than yours thingy. :teehee Lets do it and help this little girl get to America. :) Edited by RSM71, 20 Aug 2008, 09:25 AM.



kingdingaling99	20 Aug 2008, 09:23 AM Post #11
Director of Tournament Posts: 1,632 Group: X-Ray Member #276 Joined: May 22, 2008	good idea dan lol ,,.. the everyone team kicked the mods ass but it weren't half good fun lol ,,,



Ivor_Bigun	20 Aug 2008, 09:37 AM Post #12
Professional::Killer Posts: 3,439 Group: LMZF Moderator Member #252 Joined: May 21, 2008 PSN name Ivor_Bigun	RSM71 20 Aug 2008, 09:22 AM my c##k is bigger than yours thingy i win that one.. :rofl :rofl



danf_42	20 Aug 2008, 09:54 AM Post #13
Prestige level 7 Posts: 2,816 Group: X-Ray Member #286 Joined: May 22, 2008	Ivor_Bigun 20 Aug 2008, 09:37 AM RSM71 20 Aug 2008, 09:22 AM my c##k is bigger than yours thingy i win that one.. :rofl :rofl He said c##k not boobies :nahnah



Karpathian	20 Aug 2008, 10:17 AM Post #14
General Of The Army Posts: 971 Group: Victor Member #284 Joined: May 22, 2008	I'm up for the idea in principle. But I really hate the idea of a 'Best VI' and I was only having this conversation yesterday since we write match reports but always take the player's names out and we were reviewing this practice. The best can't be determined by scores or kills and I fear this is what will be measured. The person who is the first to the HQ and holds up the rest of the enemy team long enough for the rest of the squad to arrive, but fails to capture or kill anyone might actually be the best player. Also, the person who picks the bomb up in Sabotage time and time again inching it closer and closer to the enemy base even though they have 0 kills 29 deaths might be the squad's most valuable player. So, I would specify one or two things: Get rid of the 'Best VI' and change it to a Handicap match (Victor play a man down) like we have played with the Mercs squad (which was a tough fight for us). That way anybody can play and take part in the destruction of Victor. The last handicap match we played was a very close firefight I seem to recall. And an extra player can make a world of difference. Make Charity contributions optional. Unfortunately, we have a few players who don't visit the forums and I wouldn't like to kick people out because they haven't paid up, and that goes for the Merc squad too. Also, it's too much organisation to check up on whether people are fully paid up. The Mercs host and choose the maps (although Victor has the right to negotiate - e.g bog=lag fest). If Victor have six and the mercs have 12 then the teams will be adjusted 'on the fly' to 8 vs 10 or something to get everyone playing. i.e We don't really want spectators. We'd rather get our behinds kicked than have people sitting out and watching the proceedings but we may need any extra player or two so that we can still compete effectively (or at all :) ). For this to happen we may need to put up with a little bit of lag. Hey, it's for Charity.! That's all I can think of for now.



Ivor_Bigun	20 Aug 2008, 11:36 AM Post #15
Professional::Killer Posts: 3,439 Group: LMZF Moderator Member #252 Joined: May 21, 2008 PSN name Ivor_Bigun	Great points as usual Darren. Agree with you on the "Best". Someone who I consider to be one of the best players wouldn't make it onto the team simply because he doesn't top the score chart regularly and thats unfair IMO. Also agree that taking part and donating should be optional. Forced donations aren't right.



Pilksflyer	20 Aug 2008, 08:57 PM Post #16
Prestige Level 2 Posts: 1,221 Group: Zulu Member #264 Joined: May 21, 2008	here here



DarudeXII	21 Aug 2008, 07:32 AM Post #17
Sergeant First Class Posts: 161 Group: Foxtrot Member #385 Joined: Jun 8, 2008	All points are valid and should be taken into consideration. I think that the idea that a squad member is put forward by each squad, minus Victor, is a good idea



Karpathian	21 Aug 2008, 08:48 AM Post #18
General Of The Army Posts: 971 Group: Victor Member #284 Joined: May 22, 2008	DarudeXII I think that the idea that a squad member is put forward by each squad, minus Victor, is a good idea Sorry, No deal. The only way this can possibly work is Victor state when they can field a squad, anyone who is available on that day and wants to kick our behinds sign up. Having squads nominate players is really bad in itself and could cause animosity in the squads so it's not going to happen as far as I'm concerned. Also, the inevitable would happen with most of the nominated players not being able to make the match night, and there are too many squads for them all to nominate a player and not to have spectators. If the goal is to raise money for charity, then we need as many people in as we can, which means that Victor will probably not be able to match the numbers of the Mercs and that is a challenge in itself. If the goal is simply to defeat Victor then it's probably better for everyone to just pay Xray to do it. :D Victor don't mind losing, we got trounced against the PSN forumers, we had a mediocre record on Gamebattles, the fact of the matter is it's brilliant practice for us. Communications plummets when we are being trounced and it needs to be the other way around, so it something we need to work on. The 'handicap' of playing a man down is simply to compensate for the fact that a group of players who haven't played as a group before will find it a little harder to work as a team than a team who has experience of working with each other. The last time we tried this they were really close battles (I seem to recall a Pipeline domination game being a 201-199 win for Victor). Edited by Karpathian, 21 Aug 2008, 08:49 AM.



danf_42	21 Aug 2008, 09:28 AM Post #19
Prestige level 7 Posts: 2,816 Group: X-Ray Member #286 Joined: May 22, 2008	I agree with Karpy. We had so much hassle with this whole 'who's better than who' thing. And there's no point getting people's backs up cos they weren't put forward. Anyone should be allowed ot play. But I do think that people should pay the charity contribution if they want to play, else it may as well be another merc vs victor match. There shouldn't be a set amount though, people should just pay what they can afford. Makes sense cos it's a charity match, and people don't have to play if they don't want to. The Victor guys shouldn't be made to pay, it's just a 'want a pop at the champs? get your chance and help a little girl' type thing.



kingdingaling99	21 Aug 2008, 10:58 AM Post #20
Director of Tournament Posts: 1,632 Group: X-Ray Member #276 Joined: May 22, 2008	i must agree with karpy cause he is right you cant decide who is the best player out of a team, just because someone gets 100 kills in a game of headquarters dont mean squat if you end up losing the game for failing to capture the thing in the first place it is all about teamwork and each member of a squad is as important as the next member .. everyone contributes differently yes but all are equally important but the important thing here is what seems to of been forgotten HAVE FUN cause if you aint having any there is no point playing ... i hope this goes ahead though as it is for a good cause ... @danf ,, like that title m8 ”want a pop at the champs”



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