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| Tweet Topic Started: 3 Jun 2008, 10:30 PM (683 Views) | |
| cuttertree | 3 Jun 2008, 10:30 PM Post #1 |
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| hoplophobic | 17 Jun 2008, 04:28 PM Post #2 |
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lo - first customer :) bit of an unusual one. My dads got a static caravan and the main pipe to the waste from the toilet doesnt have the usual rubber gasket around it. Would this be intentional as toilets in caravans dont have the usual vent above the waste pipe do you think? We were tempted to fit one (less pongs) but are worried about build ups of gas (insert pun here ;) ) - Cheers |
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| megadeth32 | 17 Jun 2008, 04:30 PM Post #3 |
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can you get any pics? |
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| hoplophobic | 17 Jun 2008, 05:47 PM Post #4 |
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could do next time im down - but basically its the main waste pipe from the toilet (heading down) into a large bore brown plastic pipe ive fitted them at home and they usually have a black ribbed rubber gasket - this one doesnt. I know that your supposed to have waste pipes vented to stop methane building up so wonder if this has been left off intentionally? |
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| megadeth32 | 17 Jun 2008, 07:12 PM Post #5 |
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difficult one without seeing it and also because its a caravan. my guess would be that it should have the rubber because the smell will come through from that gap - the water in your toilet bowl is to stop smells so any gaps in the pipework would let the smell out not to mention the water your trying to flush. and yes you should have a vent for the waste pipe, i cant think of another way that you could vent that in a caravan. sorry i cant be more help, but its a hard 1 without looking at it. |
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| cuttertree | 17 Jun 2008, 07:27 PM Post #6 |
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Does it look like a typical caravan toilet set up? These normally feed into a waste compartment that is periodically emptied so i would have thought that would be the reason for not having a air pipe. If it now leads into a permanent soil pipe then yes a vent pipe should be fitted. From what you say a rubber gasket is fitted so that the piping is semi fixed, as in, it can be pulled apart. Otherwise the only way to connect pipes would be with a chemical compound that acts as a permanent seal. Personally i would have a rubber gasket, do it as you would at home, particularly if it is lived in on a regular basis. Let us know how it is connected up. Is there a permanent soil pipe to a waste soak away or do you have to empty a compartment every so often. |
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| hoplophobic | 17 Jun 2008, 07:41 PM Post #7 |
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its a static caravan and feeds directly into a waste pipe that services the whole field and is connected up to the main sewer - like you say a sewer needs venting so I guess that must be why its left like this. Maybe we need to speak to the farmer who owns the site to check. |
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| cuttertree | 17 Jun 2008, 08:11 PM Post #8 |
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i would check with farmer and other statics on site if there are any. |
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| hoplophobic | 18 Jun 2008, 08:29 AM Post #9 |
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will do ;) will let you know what the verdict is |
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| ranger54321 | 20 Jun 2008, 02:16 PM Post #10 |
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Not sure if you can help me with this one. Heating system. My Switchmaster is stuck on Heating and hotwater. When only water or heating required you can hear a loud ticking coming from if but will not turn. Have tried to turn it myself, but seems to be stuck solid. I believe these are not made any more. Do you have any idea as to what replacement I would need, what cost also. How much would a heating engineer charge to replace this item? Cheers |
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| megadeth32 | 20 Jun 2008, 02:26 PM Post #11 |
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try ebay bud you might find the same 1 on there. never heard of a switch master but a time clock is very easy to fit and would only take less than an hour to fit. cant really tell you what a plumber would charge as its different where ever you are in the country anywhere between £50 - £100ish. but if you find the right guy they may do it for a next to nothing. wiring a time clock in is easy for if your a diyer then it should be no trouble. Edited by megadeth32, 20 Jun 2008, 02:57 PM.
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| ranger54321 | 20 Jun 2008, 03:04 PM Post #12 |
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Sorry mate should have explained it better. The switchmaster is a Valve which diverts water to either heating, hot water or both. It is currently stuck on Heating and Hotwater. |
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| megadeth32 | 20 Jun 2008, 03:41 PM Post #13 |
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oh the 3 or 2 port motorised valve! very easy to change bud. wont take long for a plumber to change again if your handly at diy i would give it a go! get the serial number and give it to shoreheat or somewhere like that and they'll order you one or something similar. if you cant get the motor or a similar one then the body of the valve will have to be changed and that would likely be a drain down! again its all simple stuff and wouldnt take too long. if im not mistaken the switch master 3 port is made by drayton who are a big plumbing company and you should be able to get a replacement head. (bodge coming up!) get a big screw driver and hold it the wrong way round and give the valve a smack - sometimes the motor gets stuck and that sometimes frees it! also there should be a black slider switch on the side, try moving that back and forth a bit and see if it frees up! Edited by megadeth32, 20 Jun 2008, 03:42 PM.
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| ranger54321 | 20 Jun 2008, 04:34 PM Post #14 |
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Cheers for that mate. Tried the 'bodge' but still wont shift. :bigtears Will buy the part online and get a plumber out to fit it, not confident enough to drain down the system. Thanks for your help. :@work |
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| ranger54321 | 20 Jun 2008, 05:40 PM Post #15 |
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Continued to try and sort and partially did. Eventually removed the motor, drawing blood, and freed up the Valve. :partypeople But the motor is not turning, at least I can manually turn the valve now. Will open the motor and see if I can fix it. Again thanks for the help. :twothumbs |
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| megadeth32 | 20 Jun 2008, 06:19 PM Post #16 |
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no worries bud. let me know how you get on |
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| brightlightsfade | 10 Aug 2008, 06:21 PM Post #17 |
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What a godamn awful day. First off the dishwasher isn't draining and I cant find a blockage, but stiil some wate in it. Not confident enough to take it to bits. Call out for an engineer needed. Then in the middle of a debate with Maureen about who is doing what part of the housework we get no hot water. Quick look at the boiler. No fault code on the display. switching on off and hitting reset button don't work. The notice there's no presuure showing. Try to fill the boiler and it just won't fill. This is gonna cost afortune. Thankfully there's a leisure centre nearby so getting a hot shower won't be a problem LOL |
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| Pedds1 | 10 Aug 2008, 06:37 PM Post #18 |
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Is it a combi boiler? Well at least the boards not showing anything major...possible air lock or blockage...tho strange i must say. Is the pilot light lit? |
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| brightlightsfade | 10 Aug 2008, 07:14 PM Post #19 |
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Combi Boiler. electronic controls not showing a recognised fault. Just arranged for someone to come out and luckily can defray cost as part of a maintenance/service/repair contract. Could be costing us more over the long run but peace of mind cos I can't DIY to save myself Thanks for the concern pedds |
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| Pedds1 | 10 Aug 2008, 08:15 PM Post #20 |
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Will be interesting to know what the boiler fault is...let us know :) |
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| megadeth32 | 10 Aug 2008, 10:49 PM Post #21 |
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hmm strange. if theres no pressure then some of your water in the system must have come out and if you havent noticed any leaks then the water must have come out the pressure relief valve. done the right thing getting an engineer out |
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| brightlightsfade | 11 Aug 2008, 07:39 PM Post #22 |
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Aaaarggggh. Boiler's just been **********ing condemned. Flue fitted incorrectly when house was built and water leaking back into the boiler resulting in the PCB being burnt out. Thus cllassified as an immediate risk to life or property Now need to get a quote to have flue repaired and boiler fixed sent it all off to NHBC to see what the response is gonna be. No hot water for a few weeks at least probably. The position of the boiler in the house means we'll have to get internal plaster board ripped out of one room and have it redecorated what a pain. Goddam cowboy builders as we live in a new build development. Also gonna get the management company to advise other owners to have this checked as the engineer when he walked in the door said dont tell me yout boiler is upstairs in a cupbooard. This development has had problmes apparently |
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| The_Rascal | 11 Aug 2008, 07:49 PM Post #23 |
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Who built your house BLF? If it's a newish house i.e. less than 10 years old the NHBC guarantee should cover it :) fingers crossed for you :twothumbs |
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| Pedds1 | 11 Aug 2008, 08:07 PM Post #24 |
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Unfortunately...and i said this 25 years ago...Maggie Thatcher pretty much abolished apprenticeships by introducing the YTS scheme...you had guys doing 1 year in any chosen profession of the building trade. As a result...they didnt learn their trade right. I was fortunate, but many were not...this is the result. On the other hand..and anyone whos been in the trade will back me up....when a new housing estate is built....theres an urgency to get it completed and "House bashing" was created..making guys rush. Build quality today is appaling to say the least. Good luck with it anyway mate..and as said previously...there should be some form of cover by the NHBC..especially as its been condemned. |
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| brightlightsfade | 11 Aug 2008, 08:21 PM Post #25 |
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Well NHBC have told us that if installation is condemned as being unsafe they will at least cover the cost of correcting the flue. Gonna need to get into it with them in terms of repairs to/replacement of boiler as the crappy incorrect installation in the first place caused the problem. I'm dealing with this very well so far - haven't broken out the weapons cache, applied the face camo and gone out on a mission to extrerminate with extreme prejudice LOL Thanks to everybody for the concern and support :gr8: |
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