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Trick Room Sandstorm Team
Topic Started: Sep 5 2008, 08:35 AM (1,794 Views)
Griffin
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Trying too many different things? Maybe, maybe not.

Little cup has always appealed to me, but there’s much less info about in on internet, so I don’t know much about it. I started making a team anyway. I thought trying a Trick Room team would be good, partly because I made a Trick Room team before, for standard play. When I had 3 party members assembled, I noticed that all three were sandstorm-resistant. I decided to add Hippopotas, and Lileep. Result?

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Bronzor @ Oran Berry
Levitate
220 HP / 4 Atk / 148 Def / 68 SpD
Relaxed
~ Trick Room
~ Gyro Ball
~ Stealth Rock
~ Earthquake

This is pretty straightforward. It sets up Trick Room. I don’t really know what to do if I encounter something with Taunt, though.

Porygon @ Oran Berry
Download
236 SpA / 236 HP
Quiet
~ Trick Room
~ Shadow Ball
~ Thunderbolt
~ Ice Beam

Boltbeam + Shadow Ball for coverage. My second thing to set up Trick Room. Also the only thing that doesn’t like the sandstorm, but I don’t think it will be a huge problem.

Hippopotas @ Oran Berry
Sand Stream
212 HP / 212 Def / 20 SpD / 20 Atk
Relaxed
~ Earthquake
~ Roar
~ Ice Fang
~ Slack Off

This sets up the sandstorm. I don’t really mind if this doesn’t come into the game early, because everything besides Lileep functions just fine without it. Other then that, it looks a lot like its big brother.

Trapinch @ Choice Band
Arena Trap
196 Atk / 156 HP / 76 Def / 76 SpD
Brave
~ Earthquake
~ Crunch
~ Hidden Power [Ice]
~ Rock Slide

Trick Room’s Diglett. With Trick Room, nothing outslows it except Munchlax (I think). Unfortunately, its movepool is as empty as a vacuum. This is literally the only option.

Magnemite @ Life Orb
Magnet Pull
236 SpA / 156 SpD / 36 Def
Quiet
~ Flash Cannon
~ Thunderbolt
~ Hidden Power [?]
~ Explosion

I think these EVs give it 19 HP, making it a great candidate for using Life Orb. I don’t know what to do with Hidden Power.

Lileep @ Oran Berry
Suction Cups
228 HP / 140 SpD / 140 Def
Sassy
~ Toxic
~ Stockpile
~ Recover
~ Stealth Rock

Not really sure about this. Basically the same as her mommy, but with an abysmal attack (base 41). Also the only thing that doesn’t function well without a sandstorm. Edit: this is out as soon as I have replacement.
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Attack stats are less dramatic in Little Cup, so base 41 is actually workable.

Always max HP on Broznor before defenses, as his HP is much lower than them.

For Magnemite, Substitute, Explosion (does he get it?), or Metal Sound in Slot 4.

I'd abandon the sand theme and use a Choice Band Munchlax over Lileep. Great Attack and Special Defense, less weaknesses, and lower Speed make Munchlax an awesome Trick Roomer compared to Lileep.

Tanking NEVER works in Little Cup, as the metagame is horribly offensive. Lillep is doomed to fail.

Trapinch has a few other attacks that suck less than Return in the last slot. Quick Attack beats out other priority users and lets you use him in a pinch outside of Trick Room. With no EVs and neutral nature, HP Ice might OHKO Gligar, so that's the option if you don't like Quick Attack.
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Always max HP on Broznor before defenses, as his HP is much lower than them.


Will fix that.

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For Magnemite, Substitute, Explosion (does he get it?), or Metal Sound in Slot 4.


Ah, good idea, I'll go with Explosion then.

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I'd abandon the sand theme and use a Choice Band Munchlax over Lileep. Great Attack and Special Defense, less weaknesses, and lower Speed make Munchlax an awesome Trick Roomer compared to Lileep.

Tanking NEVER works in Little Cup, as the metagame is horribly offensive. Lillep is doomed to fail.


I think I'll stick to the Sandstorm team. I know it may not be the best, but I like it. But okay, no Lileep. Maybe a bulky Rock type, Onix/Nosepass/Rhyhorn?

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Trapinch has a few other attacks that suck less than Return in the last slot. Quick Attack beats out other priority users and lets you use him in a pinch outside of Trick Room. With no EVs and neutral nature, HP Ice might OHKO Gligar, so that's the option if you don't like Quick Attack.


HP Ice seems like a good idea. According to Metalkid's calculator:

Damage: 88.46% - 103.85%

So with Stealth Rock that should do it.


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from the looks of this it looks like you get pwned by scarf mankey or machop, what do you have for one of them
and reflect may be a good idea over one of bronzors attacks, I found it really useful for me and against me
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for bulky Rock, definitely go Rhyhorn. Onix is too fast and Nosepass is too weak. Rhyhorn is a powerful beast.
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Nosepass is by no means weak if you use the right set :/
Specs Nosepass hits most LC pokemon on their weaker defense anyways and is a totally awesome wall under sand.
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@ Beefy, I guess I'll just Revenge Kill them, unless you have a good solution. Also, which move do you suggest I take out? Because a Trick Room team has to be fast paced, it's just wasting turns if I set up Stealth Rock, Reflect, and Trick Room. Also, it's easier for something with Taunt to completely stop me.

So Rhyhorn:

Rhyhorn @ Choice Band
~ Earthquake
~ Stone Edge
~ Megahorn
~ Fire Fang

or Nosepass:

Nosepass @ Choice Specs
Hidden Power [Rock]
Earth Power
Thunder
Explosion

Which one? I'll fix the EV's and natures when I decide which of the two I'll pick.
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