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| Tweet Topic Started: Aug 9 2008, 06:44 PM (748 Views) | |
| Iraff | Aug 9 2008, 06:44 PM Post #1 |
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[SET] Name: Rain Dance Sweeper move 1: Waterfall move 2: Rock Slide move 3: Rain Dance move 4: Aerial Ace/Aqua Jet/Return item: Life Orb ability: Swift Swim nature: Jolly/Adamant evs:196 Attk/74 Def/236 Spd [SET COMMENTS] <p>A Kabuto such as this is a fantastic addition to any Rain Dance team. Adamant is recommended here over Jolly, mostly due to the fact that with Swift Swim, you already outspeed damn near everything. Popular Scarfers such as Diglett and Cranidos are outsped, and each of them fall immediately to a Waterfall, Rock Slide's solid flinch rate can be invaluable, as you will outspeed AND OHKO Murkrow. It is worth noting that you will survive an LO Sucker Punch form a standard Murkrow. Kabuto is also pretty good at forcing switches, considering that his respectable attack makes for a lot of OHKOs. </p> <p>There are quite a few options for move 4 on this guy. Aerial Ace 2HKOs every Fighting-type in LC, and around 50% of the time it will OHKO. Unfortunately, many of the Fighting-type's retaliations will KO poor Kabuto, so it is a high-risk high-return maneuver. If you don't trust yourself to get off a Rain Dance, or you simply need a priority move, you can opt for Aqua Jet, which still OHKOs popular Fire-Types like Ponyta. The normal-water combination is unresisted in LC, so Return is very viable as well.</p> [SET] Name: Choice Set move 1: Waterfall move 2: Rock Slide move 3: Ice Beam/Return move 4: HP [Fire]/[Fighting] item: Choice Band ability: Swift Swim nature: Jolly evs: 196 Attk/156 Speed/156 Sp. Attk [SET COMMENTS] <p>Before I go on, it should be noted that this entire set works much, much more effectively if it's raining. With it's speed doubled, it hits 30 speed. Once you're the fastest thing this side of the Mississippi, few will withstand your might.</p> <p>Almost all Kabuto sets have the Rock Slide/Waterfall combo, and Choice Band only makes you more of a threat. Even though you Sp. Attk is somewhat average, Ice Beam OHKOs things would normally cause you trouble, such as Gligar. One can also go for the unresisted Waterfall/Return duo. Both HP [Fighting] and [Fire] can take care of potential issues. Fire will OHKO Snover, and Fighting will 2HKO Munchlax.</p> <p>Due to the nature of this set, Jolly is really the only option you have here. Choice Scarf is an option, but is largely unnecessary considering Swift Swim.</p> Sorry, I'm working on the rest. Edited by Iraff, Aug 20 2008, 03:40 PM.
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| Seven Deadly Sins | Aug 10 2008, 01:45 PM Post #2 |
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Combine the first two sets, as they're practically the same thing. I'd much rather have Swift Swim than Rock Polish, as Kabuto probably won't be living long enough to waste the entire set of Rain turns, and a boosted Waterfall at 30/32 speed isn't something to scoff at. Furthermore, Rain Dance provides team support even if Kabuto dies setting it up, something Rock Polish does not boast. |
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| TPM | Aug 10 2008, 09:26 PM Post #3 |
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Looking good, however I agree with SDS, the first set is pointless. On the Rain Dance set you might want to add another option besides Rain Dance because it can get the support from team mates. Also try adding a Choice set. |
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| Chris | Aug 12 2008, 06:32 AM Post #4 |
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Fuck, he gets 32 Speed? Shit! Yeah, ditch Rock Polish. Life Orb is pretty much a must on the Rain Dance set (hint: Watch what happens to Bronzor when you add up all the numbers). Does Kabuto get X-Scissor? Colud be useful for the one Grass type in LC. |
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| Fishin | Aug 12 2008, 06:26 PM Post #5 |
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I believe that should read Choice Scarf, not Choice Band.
I'd have to check calculations but I'm pretty sure that thanks to Kabuto's good defense you can also survive one LO Sucker Punch from Murkrow, which is worth mentioning IMO (CB I'm not as sure about). |
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| Iraff | Aug 12 2008, 07:18 PM Post #6 |
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Heh, you know, I went ahead and did the damage calcs for that before-hand. I decided not to include it, but on second thought it's definitely pertinent information. Thanks. |
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| eric the espeon | Aug 13 2008, 02:16 PM Post #7 |
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"Aerial Ace 2HKOs every Fighting-type in LC, and around 50% of the time it will OHKO." What Fighting type is 1KO'd 50% of the time? The way it looks now is that every one has the same defensive ability and is 1KO'd half the time. Other than that add a bulky set, its nice resists and def combined with access to some useful support moves make it quite viable. |
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| Iraff | Aug 13 2008, 11:57 PM Post #8 |
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AA on the Standard Machop is about 95%-105% The standard Croagunk is 94%-106% |
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| Chris | Aug 14 2008, 04:41 AM Post #9 |
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45 Speed is horribly excessive, at those speeds you'll just be fighting priority anyway so why not use, say, CB? |
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| Seven Deadly Sins | Aug 14 2008, 01:52 PM Post #10 |
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KD24 banned Tangela
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Also, let's not the fact that you will NOT be outsped by any big threats in the rain. Not even the fastest Choice Scarf Pokemon can break 30 speed, and they usually run 28 because their attack is mediocre. Choice Scarf is good if you want to use Kabuto on teams not abusing rain, but it's infinitely better off being a Rain Abuser rather than a scarfer. |
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| Iraff | Aug 20 2008, 03:41 PM Post #11 |
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Really sorry about this guys. I haven't been home lately. I'm working on the rest. |
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