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| tsukikage | Jun 23 2008, 02:01 PM Post #1 |
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Buizel Stat--base min- min max max+
[SET] name: Choice Band move 1: Aqua Jet/Waterfall move 2: Quick Attack/Focus Punch move 3: Brick Break/Return move 4: Pursuit item: Choice Band/Choice Scarf ability: Swift Swim nature: Jolly/Adamant evs: 236 Atk/236 Spe [SET COMMENTS] Buizel has great speed and uses it well coupled with a decent attack. It has two priority moves (With the type combo of them being unresisted) at its becking, but if the low base power throws you off, it has regular moves as well. [SET] name: Choice Specs move 1: Surf move 2: Swift move 3: Ice Beam move 4: Hidden Power [Fighting] item: Choice Specs/Choice Scarf ability: Swift Swim nature: Timid/Modest evs: 78 HP/196 SpA/236 Spe [SET COMMENTS] Special version of the first set. With no priority moves, this set must make up for the lower attacking stat with more powerful moves. Swift is a never miss move for those of you that fear Double Team for some reason. As usual, Water/Normal is unresisted. [SET] name: Baton Pass move 1: Agility/Bulk Up move 2: Substitute move 3: Baton Pass move 4: Aqua Jet/Surf item: Leichi Berry/Salac Berry ability: Swift Swim nature: Jolly/Timid evs: 236 HP/236 Spe/(38 SpA) [SET COMMENTS] If you are passing Agility, go with Leichi Berry, but Salac for Bulk Up. Obviosuly Jolly and Timid depends on which attack you are using. If you decide to use Surf, then 38 Special Attack EVs can be used, but those 38 will not do anything to the Attack stat. [SET] name: SubPunch move 1: Substitute move 2: Focus Punch move 3: Aqua Jet/Waterfall move 4: Return/Pursuit item: Oran Berry ability: Swift Swim nature: Jolly evs: 236 Atk/236 Spe [SET COMMENTS] Standard SubPunch set. Fighting hits a lot of the things Nomral would hit anyway, so Pursuit is an option over Return. [SET] name: Mixed move 1: Surf move 2: Ice Beam move 3: Brick Break move 4: Aqua Jet/Quick Attack item: Life Orb/Choice Scarf ability: Swift Swim nature: Naive evs: 76 Atk/196 SpA/236 Spe [SET COMMENTS] Maxing out speed allows you to beat positive natured Gastly and neutral natured Abra, Aipom, Meowth, and Ponyta. Surf is your main attack and will do a lot of general damage. Ice Beam is for Tangela and flyers. Brick Break is primarily for Munchlax, but has many other uses as well. For opponents that may survive and are faster than you, Use a priority move to finish them off. Aqua Jet is preferable to hit ghosts, but if Tangela scares you, then Quick Attack is the better option. [SET] name: Danzel move 1: Rain Dance move 2: Aqua Jet move 3: Return/Quick Attack move 4: Ice Beam item: Focus Sash ability: Swift Swim nature: Naive evs: 76 Atk/196 SpA/236 Spe [SET COMMENTS] Set up rain while you take a hit with Focus Sash, allowing you to outspeed pretty much everything. Rain boosted Aqua Jet really hurts. Life Orb can be used over Focus Sash if you think you can predict a switch because Life Orb will get a 2HKO on Bronzor. [OTHER OPTIONS] Buizel can endure to activate a berry, but it is no more threatening at one HP than at full HP really. [EVS] Maximize your Speed and Attacking stat that you are using, with the exception of the Baton Pass set because you want your subs to be as big as possible. A positive speed nature and max EVs lets you beat many common threats, and Buizel's attacking stats aren't the greatest, so maxing them out is always the best option. [OPINION] A lot of EVs are required to max out its stats, which hampers it a little, but it really only needs to max out two stats anyway. Buizel has the ability to sweep or aid in another sweep through Baton Pass. Other than Drifloon, Buizel has the fastest Baton Pass in LC. [COUNTERS] Bronzor takes neutral from every one of its attacks except Ice Beam which is not very effective but can't do much back. Munchlax and Tangela both do well against physical versions, but Tangela has trouble taking Ice Beams from the special variant, which Mantyke fairs fairly well against. Diglett has the advantage of being able to outspeed Buizel by one point unless Buizel is scarfed and Diglett isn't (or rain is up). That really doesn't matter though, as Sucker Punch goes first anyway. Diglett should be wary because if Sucker Punch doesn't KO, then Buizel will destroy it with STAB Water moves. Scarf Gastly can also come in and revenge kill with Thunderbolt. Elekid is faster than Buizel and has STAB Electric attacks to really hurt as well. Edited by tsukikage, Jun 30 2008, 12:23 PM.
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| eric the espeon | Jun 23 2008, 02:09 PM Post #2 |
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Can you put in a Picture from here http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/sprites.html and a Stat thing like in my ones. This goes for all your analysis. |
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| tsukikage | Jun 23 2008, 02:10 PM Post #3 |
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OK, I'll edit |
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| eric the espeon | Jun 23 2008, 02:14 PM Post #4 |
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I just fixed the stat thingy in my Porygon Analysis, copy that style. |
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| A_T | Jun 24 2008, 03:58 PM Post #5 |
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Diglett isn't really that good of a counter. If Buizel outspeeds and uses a priority move, Sucker Punch fails. |
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| tsukikage | Jun 24 2008, 04:00 PM Post #6 |
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Diglett should never be outsped by Buizel unless Buizel is scarfed, but most Digletts I've seen have been scarfed as well. |
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| A_T | Jun 24 2008, 04:11 PM Post #7 |
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Not against Rain Dance. |
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| eric the espeon | Jun 24 2008, 04:47 PM Post #8 |
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Made some edits to the counters section, formalised it mostly. Could a Rain Dance set (possibly with sash) work? |
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| Chris | Jun 24 2008, 09:00 PM Post #9 |
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I think the CB should read Aqua Jet / Waterfall or Quick Attack / Focus Punch / Pursuit. Focus Punch is a generally good move on a CBer, while Aqua Jet being Buizel's biggest selling point should be an emphasized option. Mixed RD set could work. |
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| Seven Deadly Sins | Jun 24 2008, 09:31 PM Post #10 |
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KD24 banned Tangela
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Toxic isn't any good in LC, and shouldn't get a mention in OO. |
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| tgva8889 | Jun 29 2008, 10:37 AM Post #11 |
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The Choice set has Pursuit listed as an alternate option for one slot, while it's listed as the only move for another. Shouldn't it not be an option if it's already on there? Return functions as an other option on the Choice set for coverage. Probably better than Brick Break if you're already running Focus Punch. A Rain Dance set could definitely work IMO. Probably requires testing, but I imagine that Rain-boosted Aqua Jet does some decent damage. |
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