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| Solving our traffic problems | |
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| Karsie | Oct 14 2014, 10:18 PM Post #1 |
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Maybe this accordion bus from Brazil is what we need: Posted Image We have buses like this here (US). Perhaps we should also have double decker buses like they do in Hongkong. :D Building a subway system is the solution to the congestion problem at MRT3, says a Japanese expert.
I say let's start building cars that fly. :smile: By Benign0 (Get Real Philippines) wrote this:
A multi-level EDSA or highways (one level going one way, and another going the other way) OR an underground highway system might be a good solution to our traffic problem. Rush hour in most big cities here in the U.S. is always bad. The el trains (our MRT/LRT) are also packed but the lines are not that long like the lines at MRT/LRT stations. The highway traffic going downtown is bad too but it moves. There are a lot more cars I think here than in Metro Manila. Every home here I think has at least one car, maybe multiple even. The difference in our two systems is their city & suburban buses are all owned by the govt (no private buses except the ones going interstate) and of course, we don't have any jeepneys. The buses run on schedule and they only stop at designated bus stops & terminals. So if you miss the last bus that went by you might have to wait for another 5 to 15 minutes. In some parts of California, they have a segregated fast lane for cars of people car-pooling and it only has one entry point and one exit point. Also, in some parts of California and I think in New York & other parts of the world they have multi-level highways/expressways/freeways like these: Posted Image In San Francisco Posted Image In TEHRAN Posted Image Perhaps we could aim for these? I remember watching a talk show on TV whose guest was a govt official of PN0Y (I think that was the current MMDA Chief) and he was saying that they are planning to do the multi-level EDSA that will only take four years to construct. I have not heard anything more about it after that show. All that money budgeted for the project probably went to "savings" (UBO UBO) and to line politicians' pockets. So many promises unfulfilled. The 13-km NLEX-SLEX Connector Road is supposed to link the two major expressways in Luzon that was proposed to the Aquino administration in 2010. This will easily reduce the travel time from NLEX to SLEX and vice-versa from 45-60 minutes to 30-45 minutes. It could have been operational today if only BS had approved the MPTC (Metro Pacific Tollways Corporation) proposal four years ago. |
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| DeborahCal | Feb 26 2016, 12:05 AM Post #2 |
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^ ^ Asa pa tayo under Tuwid Na Daan? :censored: This government do not care if people are suffering due to the horrific traffic. Sila kasi may mga magagandang air-conditioned na sasakyan at may driver pa sila. So the bad traffic won't affect them that much. We are left to fend for ourselves. Six years in power and they could have done something about the traffic. But they sat on their a$$e$ and did nothing to alleviate the problem. Tapos yung MMDA Chairman, anong ginawa? Tapos ngayon tatakbong senador. Saan kaya siya kumukuha ng kapal ng mukha? :batok:
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| Karsie | Aug 7 2016, 06:10 AM Post #3 |
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Is this the SOLUTION to our traffic problem? China has actually built that elevated bus that travels above car traffic: http://tcrn.ch/2azrQxH Posted Image Posted Image Posted Image Inside the elevated bus Posted Image Edited by Karsie, Aug 7 2016, 06:13 AM.
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| Karsie | Sep 9 2016, 05:39 AM Post #4 |
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Pagpapalit ng riles ng LRT-1, nagsimula na Posted Image https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrH0SPpVIAAOKJW.jpg Posted Image https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrH0S6gVYAATmA2.jpg Pag-aayos ng LRT-1, inaasahang matatapos sa Setyembre 2017 |
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| Grizwald | Sep 13 2016, 04:47 PM Post #5 |
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This is really ELEMENTARY as far as I'm concerned. There are more cars, buses, trucks, taxis, motorbikes and cargo trailers on the roads now but we have the same number of roads. The solution is BUILD MORE ROADS and alternate routes. :doh: We should build a high-speed elevated highway that parallels EDSA. The government should also discourage businesses from setting up office in congested Metro Manila and give them tax incentives to build outside Metro Manila. We should also build more railway systems to connect Metro Manila rail systems to outlying areas. There should be big secured parking facilities in train stations so people can leave their cars there to take the train like they do in the U.S. |
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| lexdejer | Sep 22 2016, 12:45 AM Post #6 |
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Metro Cebu world's worst to drive in? Osmeña agrees with Waze users https://shar.es/1x31x1 So numerous additional vehicles now for the same number of roads. So what do you expect? We need more roads to solve our traffic problem. Reminds me of one who said it's a sign of 'progress'. DOUBLE-DECKING OUR MOST CONGESTED HIGHWAYS WHY AM I SHOWING YOU THE PHOTOS BELOW? For one reason: I'm suggesting to DOUBLE-DECK EDSA & other CONGESTED HIGHWAYS. Double-decker Embarcadero Freeway Posted Image http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/archive/2010/12/91_14_embarcadero.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg The State Route 99 Alaskan Way Viaduct is a double-deck highway along Seattle's downtown Posted Image https://grist.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/4907981854_667d006711_b.jpg?w=660&h=440 This is the Alaskan Way Viaduct, a two-tiered, elevated section of State Highway 99 in Seattle that runs right through downtown along the city’s waterfront, providing a spectacular view of the skyline and Puget Sound. Posted Image https://grist.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/seattle-downtown-waterfront-wsdot.jpg?w=660&h=495 Seattle's other double-decker freeway, Interstate 5 north of Downtown Posted Image https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/14048208570_4977fe9f28_o.jpg
My reaction to the above is I think the way to solve the traffic problem is a combination of solutions: - Double-deck most congested highways - Build more roads (for me, this is the most important solution to decongesting our streets) - Buy more sturdy trains from Europe or the U.S. - Build more rail systems to more remote areas. - Build huge parking lots or buildings at train stations where car owners can park their cars then ride on a train. They should be FREE & SECURED. This will encourage motorists to take public commuter trains part of the way to their destinations. - Interconnect the rail systems so people can readily transfer to other trains. - Phase out the jeepnies. - Buy more shuttle boats for Pasig River & Manila Bay travels. - Encourage car pooling by giving motorists who car-pool special fast lanes. - More point-to-point & accordion buses In Mexico City Posted Image https://i.ytimg.com/vi/byal_VSCw_M/maxresdefault.jpg Watch the video (this video gives you a view of both the first level and 2nd level): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=byal_VSCw_M In a few short years, the most busy highway in Mexico City has undergone a major transformation with the addition of the "secundo piso" (2nd floor). Driving below gives the impression you are under the world's longest brontosaurus -- a huge curving structure on pillars. From above, a view of everything. An engineering feat. In TEXAS: This is IH-35 Posted Image https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQu6ZMSFJjh9yBdoB6Gt0yrqQDX24BEdx_cHfkQ38EJJK1FIxQ0 In San Antonio, Texas: Posted Image http://www.texasfreeway.com/sanantonio/photos/ih10/images/IH10-DD/i10_dd_along_feeder_looking_s_s_of_cincinnati_exit_ramp_2-sept-2001_lres.jpg Just north of downtown San Antonio is the double deck section of interstate 10. The double decking, completed in the late 1980's, added six elevated lanes to the existing 4-lane freeway below. Of Texas' 4 double decked freeways, this is probably the "best" one, considering size, length, and design characteristics. Posted Image http://www.texasfreeway.com/sanantonio/photos/ih10/images/IH10-DD/i10_dd_drivers_view_sb_begin_dd_2-sept-2001_lres.jpg Posted Image http://www.texasfreeway.com/sanantonio/photos/ih10/images/IH10-DD/i10_dd_sb_feeder_entrance_ramp_n_of_cincinnati_2-sept-2001_lres.jpg Posted Image http://www.texasfreeway.com/sanantonio/photos/ih10/images/IH10-DD/i10_dd_looking_n_from_cincinnati_overpass_near_2-sept-2001_lres.jpg Posted Image http://www.texasfreeway.com/sanantonio/photos/ih10/images/IH10-DD/i10_dd_ground_view_at_culebra_A_PREFERRED_2-sept-2001_lres.jpg Posted Image http://www.texasfreeway.com/sanantonio/photos/ih10/images/IH10-DD/i10_dd_drivers_view_upper_deck_B_near_culebra_B_2-sept-2001_lres.jpg Posted Image http://www.texasfreeway.com/sanantonio/photos/ih10/images/IH10-DD/i10_dd_drivers_view_sb_between_colorado_and_frio_2-sept-2001_lres.jpg Posted Image http://www.texasfreeway.com/sanantonio/photos/ih10/images/IH10-DD/i10_dd_ground_view_looking_s_from_colorado_2-sept-2001_lres.jpg Seattle's other double-decker freeway, Interstate 5 north of Downtown Posted Image https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2934/14048208570_4977fe9f28_o.jpg West on Mehring Way in Cincinnati at Smith Street. Posted Image http://i33.tinypic.com/2u62n9y.jpg This is the San Francisco Bay Bridge: Posted Image http://www.structuremag.org/wp-content/uploads/0214-f1-2.jpg This bridge is a double-decker. There are other similar roads and bridges all over the world. |
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| frango | Sep 23 2016, 04:58 AM Post #7 |
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InterAksyon on Sept 21:
Usec Rio says that in Metro Manila, P2.4B is lost due to traffic, suggests telecommuting and teleconferencing for workers, employees. InterAksyon on Sept 21: Sen Lacson reminds Usec Rio of the slow speed of internet service in the PH. Usec Rio also suggests carpooling to help ease heavy traffic. Usec Rio says offices, schools need to implement ICT solutions to reduce vehicles but notes that 25 permits needed to put up one cell site. Usec Rio: We have so much red tape. We need emergency powers for president to oversee red tape for permits granted by local government. Sen Lacson says local officials need to be bribed to be able to put up a cell site. Poe suggests to include provision in emergency powers bill for local officials to immediately grant permits for installation of cell sites. QC Mayor Bautista admits there are delays in getting approval for these cell sites from local government units. Calamba City Mayor Chipeco says that cell sites have a specific radius: Ang cell site, di pwedeng dikit-dikit yan. Chipeco also mentions health concerns due to cell sites. Rio: You receive more radiation using your mobile phone than from a cell site. Bautista: We need the help of other government agencies to move 28,000 families along planned NLEX segment 8.2. Bautista: I fully support the granting of emergency powers. DOTr USec Kintanar: Yung traffic ngayon sa Marcos Highway, dulot ng extension project ng LRT-2. Trillanes commends Tugade and Usec Lim, says he was recently at NAIA: Ang traffic ay gumaan. MIAA Gen Mgr Monreal says that the strict implementation of rules helped in the decongestion of NAIA. Usec Lim says that the Clark airport is an under-utilized facility which can accommodate more traffic. Sen Poe asks if train and shuttle services in the airport connecting to other modes of transportation is in the pipeline. In response to Poe's question:
Tugade also says that another way of addressing the traffic is by transferring government offices to other locations. Tugade also says that the DOTr is planning to transfer its offices to Clark, most of their Ortigas employees will be transferred to Clark. Mayor Chipeco: Ang kailangan siguro ngayon hindi yung Daang Matuwid kung hindi yung Daang Mabilis. |
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