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The Occupy Wall Street Movement
Topic Started: Oct 7 2011, 06:48 PM (947 Views)
Occupy Wall Street and Occupy Anytown, USA

For the past three weeks, "Occupy Wall Street" protestors have gathered in downtown New York. Though the protest started small, and wasn't taken all too seriously, the movement has grown, gaining traction in New York and spreading to cities large and small. Even President Obama was forced to acknowledge the protest in a recent press conference, saying it's a symptom of Americans' frustration with the "biggest financial crisis since the Great Depression." He also said he understood the public's concerns about how the nation's financial system works and said Americans see Wall Street as an example of the financial industry not always following the rules.

From LearnVest:
At first, the crowd that gathered near Wall Street three weeks ago gained little media attention, maybe because of its wide range of concerns and small size. The outlets that did cover the protest originally viewed it as an unsuccessful version of the Tahrir Square rally, the February protest in Egypt that resulted in Hosni Mubarak’s resignation. In those initial days, Occupy Wall Street drew just over 1,000 attendees.

But in the three weeks since then, the protest has gained in legitimacy and numbers. Two major unions, the Amalgamated Transit Union and the United Federation of Teachers, joined the protestors in a march across the Brooklyn Bridge … in which over 700 were arrested. The influential liberal organization MoveOn.org and the Working Families Party have joined the protestors’ ranks as well. This week the tension grew, and the NYPD turned to night sticks and pepper spray to control the protests.

"We are the 99 percent," they chanted Wednesday, contrasting themselves with the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans. The "Occupy Wall Street" movement is more or less a street action against capitalism, to be more specific, crony capitalism, corporate greed, corporate corruption, corporate involvement in government, unemployment, the wealth disparity between our country’s richest and poorest citizens, the current wars the US is involved in and the role of financial institutions in the current economic mess. Most support the idea that the rich should pay their fair share. The protest started with a "U.S. Day of Rage" on September 17—shortly after August's high unemployment numbers were released (the summer ended with unemployment at 9.1%). Unemployment has been cited as a major concern for the protestors. It has spread to more than 150 US cities and beyond the U.S. borders. The generic equivalent to OWS done in other cities is being called Occupy Anytown, USA, like Occupy Austin & Occupy D.C. The protesters are carrying signs like "Tax the RICH" & "Food Not Banks". "We are in a moment where there is a bigger gap between rich and poor than anytime since 1929, and so people are forced into political engagement," says Nina Eliasoph, a sociologist at the University of Southern California who studies grass-roots movements. Protesters believe that the folks on Wall Street own the government and everything the candidates are saying. As unions tentatively throw their support behind the Occupy Wall Street protests in New York, new cities are beginning to set up their own versions. Small protests under the same banner also began officially on Thursday in Dallas; Portland, Ore.; and Philadelphia. Activists have been showing solidarity with the movement in many cities, including Los Angeles, Boston, Seattle and Providence, R.I. As The (New York) Times reported on Monday, the loose-knit campaign has spread from Zuccotti Park in Downtown Manhattan to cities around the country. Several Democratic lawmakers have expressed support for the protesters, but some Republican presidential candidates have rebuked them. Herman Cain called the activists "un-American" Wednesday at a book signing in St. Petersburg, Fla. The unions were donating food, blankets and office space to the protesters, said Dan Cantor, head of the Working Families Party. But he said the young protesters would continue to head their own efforts. The movement lacks an identified leader and decisions are made during group meetings.

From The New York Times:
With little organization and a reliance on Facebook, Twitter and Google groups to share methods, the Occupy Wall Street campaign, as the prototype in New York is called, has clearly tapped into a deep vein of anger, experts in social movements said, bringing longtime crusaders against globalization and professional anarchists together with younger people frustrated by poor job prospects.

"Rants based on discontents are the first stage of any movement," said Michael Kazin, a professor of history at Georgetown University. But he said it was unclear if the current protests would lead to a lasting movement, which would require the newly unleashed passions to be channeled into institutions and shaped into political goals.

Publicity surrounding the recent arrests of hundreds in New York, near Wall Street and on the Brooklyn Bridge, has only energized the campaign. This week, new rallies and in some cases urban encampments are planned for cities as disparate as Memphis, Tenn.; Hilo, Hawaii; Minneapolis; Baltimore; and McAllen, Tex., according to Occupy Together, an unofficial hub for the protests that lists dozens of coming demonstrations, including some in Europe and Japan.

They are doing it too in Canada d(Toronto & Montreal) and all the way to Australia. I wonder if the Philippines would start one too.
(NYTimes)...In Chicago on Monday morning, about a dozen people outside the Federal Reserve Bank sat on the ground or lay in sleeping bags, surrounded by protest signs and hampers filled with donated food and blankets. The demonstrators, who have been in Chicago since Sept. 24, said they had collected so much food that they started giving the surplus to homeless people.

Each evening, the number of protesters swells as people come from school or work, and the group marches to Michigan Avenue.

"We all have different ideas about what this means, stopping corporate greed," said Paul Bucklaw, 45. "For me, it's about the banks."

Sean Richards, 21, a junior studying environmental health at Illinois State University in Normal, said he dropped out of college on Friday and took a train to Chicago to demonstrate against oil companies.

He said he would continue sleeping on the street for "as long as it takes."

Strategists on the left said they were buoyed by the outpouring of energy and hoped it would contribute to a newly powerful progressive movement. Robert Borosage, co-director of the Campaign for America's Future, in Washington, noted that the Wall Street demonstrations followed protests in Wisconsin this year over efforts to suppress public employee unions and numerous rallies on economic and employment issues.

The new protesters have shown a remarkable commitment and have stayed nonviolent in the face of aggressive actions by the New York police, he said. "I think that as a result they really touched a chord among activists across the country."

From LearnVest:
The protesters, who range from the unemployed to anarchists to college students to young parents, are voicing anger and discontent with the general state of the union and the economy. But they've gotten a lot of flack from the media for failing to voice clear demands or potential solutions.

Although there's no official list of demands, a proposed list written by a protester has been making the rounds. Demands (there are 13 of them) include free college education, raising the minimum wage to $20, and outlawing all credit reporting agencies. More mainstream demands include repealing the Glass-Steagall Act and mandating accountability from Wall Street.

With new protests planned across the country, it seems likely that even more mainstream organizations and unions will rally behind the movement. Now well-known writers like Nicholas Kristof of The New York Times and Mike Konczal of New Deal 2.0 have offered their ideas for more concrete goals the protesters should adopt, and more potential manifestos are sure to come. Whether the Occupy Wall Street movement will rally behind those goals and accomplish real change remains to be seen.

Celebrities like Michael Moore have attended some of these protests.

The proposed list of demands of the movement can be read here:http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-for-occupy-wall-st-moveme/

The Occupy Wall St chat is here:

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Corporations are not people (unbeknownst to Mitt Romney) and legally need to be classified as such, and not given the same protections as people. All corporations need to see many new regulations that ban them from making any kinds of donations, gifts or future employment of any one serving or employed by any Federal, State, County or City Government Agencies, Departments or Elected Offices.

Lobbying should be made illegal and corporations or their representatives should be banned from participating in formulating or creating new laws, bills or government policies. Congressmen and Senators should be made to sign a contract that when they introduce bills for discussion and approval by their peers, that they admit that they have not been influenced by corporations, their heads or their representatives. Any violations would be grounds for impeachment.

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I think one of the most important message of the movement should be that the people need to stop bribe money flowing to senators, congressmen and yes ... even the president! How can we possibly have a government "of the people, by the people, for the people" when money currently buys favors and votes instead of honesty and integrity?

Herman Cain, the Republican presidential candidate, said the following in reference to the OWS movement:
"They're basically saying that somehow the government is supposed to take from those that have succeeded and give to those who want to protest," - Herman Cain

Wrong Cain, the people who are protesting against Wall Street are protesting against the opposite, how many times have the government taken from the middle class and the poor to give to the rich in form of tax cuts, subsidies, corporate welfare, tax credits, and bail outs. How many of the rich would actually be rich without the middle class and the poor to constantly give them a hand? How many giant corporations would there be without the middle class and the poor to give them a leg up against the competition? That is what the workers and middle class are protesting for. Every time the government gives money to the poor and middle class it is called socialism but when they give money to the rich it is called capitalism. This inequality needs to end. A fair market is supposed to be fair.

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies." - Thomas Jefferson

If you want to talk LIVE via STREAM, go here....it's awesome:

By the way, on OCT 15, there would be a MASS demonstration called "CRITICAL MASS" NATIONWIDE.

You can see the LIVE coverage or the LIVE STREAM of the events at GROUND ZERO in NYC here:
This is the same LIVE feed that someone else posted above. It is just in another website.

If you go to this site, you will see the different participating cities doing their own version of OWS:
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More cities are listed here participating in the OCCUPATION:

Twitter for the OWS:
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Danny Glover, the actor, was just on LIVE in Occupy L.A. LIVE broadcast. They are streaming:

This is Occupy Wall Street central's LIVE feed:

Here are the proposed list of demands from Occupy Chicago:

1. PASS HR 1489 REINSTATING GLASS-STEAGALL. – A depression era safeguard that separated the commercial lending and investment banking portions of banks. Its repeal in 1999 is considered the major cause of the global financial meltdown of 2008-2009.


3. FULLY INVESTIGATE AND PROSECUTE THE WALL STREET CRIMINALS who clearly broke the law and helped cause the 2008 financial crisis.

4. OVERTURN CITIZENS UNITED v. US. – A 2010 Supreme Court Decision which ruled that money is speech. Corporations, as legal persons, are now allowed to contribute unlimited amounts of money to campaigns in the exercise of free “speech.”





9. ELIMINATE CORPORATE PERSONHOOD (stop treating CORPORATIONS as PEOPLE, like Romney referred to them).

10. INSIST THE FEC STAND UP FOR THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN REGULATING PRIVATE USE OF PUBLIC AIRWAVES to help ensure that political candidates ARE GIVEN EQUAL TIME for free at reasonable intervals during campaign season.


12. FORGIVE STUDENT DEBT – The same institutions that gave almost $2T in bailouts and then extended $16T of loans at little to no interest for banks can surely afford to forgive the $946B of student debt currently held. Not only does this favor the 99% over the 1%, it has the practical effect of more citizens spending money on actual goods, not paying down interest.

On Oct 15, there is a WORLDWIDE event that will happen in the countries listed here (I see that it includes the Philippines):

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Occupy AnyTown, USA

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Robert Caguin
Leave your party affiliations at the door when you come to one of these "Occupied" cities. Here is a site where you can see some of the LIVE FEEDS from some of the "Occupied" sites:

There are tons of books at the sites. They also have plenty of food and sleeping bags and tents. In Chicago, they are giving away donated foods to the homeless.

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In L.A. they rented a Best Western Hotel room where "Occupiers" can clean up and take showers. They left the key with the Reception. They have a food tent and a FIRST AID tent.

This movement is ELECTRIFYING! :urock:

Oh, by the way, Occupy L.A. just received 256 DONATED TENTS at the occupied site. AMAZING! I feel the LOVE! :dance:

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Jun Moon
WORKING DRAFT – Declaration of the Occupation of Sacramento
From: http://occupysac.com/
Posted on October 8, 2011 by junio.april

What We (“Occupiers”) Are For and Against

We believe: America and America’s system of government is rightly founded upon a simple ideal: that the purpose of government ought to be maintaining both liberty and justice for all.

We also believe there is a single practical means for accomplishing that ideal: our government must, in actual practice, be – as Lincoln said – one that is “of, for and by the People.”

And we believe that the idea of “the People,” as it has rightly developed and expanded over the course of American history, is, in its very essence, inclusive and egalitarian.

No American is to be excluded from full and equal participation regardless of their origin, race, gender, gender identity, economic status, social status, religion, or sexual orientation. But banning discrimination based on these categorical biases is is not sufficient to ensure liberty and justice for all Americans.

When the Majority of Americans can no longer effectively control the government because they can’t afford enough lobbyists, we no longer have a functioning democracy. The primary intent of this movement is to dismantle the current structure of the United States of America’s corrupt financial system in order to rescue the American economy from its inevitable total collapse. In order to Accomplish this the nation must:

Eliminate corporate “personhood”. Discontinue allowing the private corporation the “Federal” Reserve to manipulate interest rates and cash flow, consistently destabilizing and undermining the American economy for the benefit of speculators. Dismantle “too big to fail” banks so they can no longer jeopardize the American economy. Overturn the Supreme Court’s outrageous “Citizens United” ruling. No longer tolerate corporate campaign contributions of ANY KIND WHATSOEVER-corporate interests are incompatible with human interests.

What we oppose is: the corporate effort to transform our nation into a system in which the government is of, for, and by the wealthy elite, excluding the interests of the great majority of the American People.

We have “taken to the streets” precisely to create an effective, sustainable political movement to save our nation from this corporate effort to subvert our democracy and turn it into an empire ruled by the wealthy elite.

Nothing could be more American than assembling in the streets to speak to our fellow citizens about our government and our rights. Why should we be arrested for this? What are the dangers we pose? And to whom?

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CORPORATOCRACY is a disease. Corporations should not be allowed to participate in the creation or formulation of bills, laws and government policies. They should be banned from contacting elected officials if they are acting as representatives of their respective companies.

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Seems all of the politicians, financial gurus and unions happily spin these protests into whatever supports their own needs/wants. In most cases, they are all full of [email protected] The bottom line is that the people are sick of all of them. This includes the parasitic gov't., Wall Street and many from big business and big finance.

Several decades ago the financial world cried out that it was being regulated to death by the gov't. The financials said if they were deregulated, everyone would benefit from the new freedom. The people listened. Sure enough, the government was pushed out and many businesses began to thrive. Some of them even began self-regulating to prove their good intentions. Good things began to happen. Some monopolies were broken up (like AT&T) and then much more choice entered the market place. You could actually choose a phone other than the Bell's 3 hideous choices. Wall street began to soar. Institutions all over began to be profitable.

Then the greed set in. The very same financial institutions crying for, and getting regulatory relief, went back to the politicians crying that bankruptcy rules hurt them because 'bad' people derived all of the benefits and 'good' people couldn't get credit due to it. So, the politicians stripped away much consumer protection, weakening the bankruptcy laws so much that the financial institutions grew bold & careless, making many bad and over-sized loans, giving credit where it should never have been given. Consumers became trapped and could no longer get a "fresh start" by bankruptcy. Toadying politicians shielded so many forms of debt from bankruptcy that few persons were ever able to get a 2nd. chance.

The financial institutions became unstoppable....that is, until they crashed. And when they crashed, they took the very same consumers they had already milked, squeezed and abused, down with them. The people are sick of it! They are sick of the expression "It's business" as an excuse to do unethical or immoral things. They are sick of politicians 'selling them out' for corporate favors. They are sick of politicians constantly taking, taxing and taking and then never giving back when the people need help (hurricanes, financial crashes, foreclosed mortgages, etc.). The 'rich' individuals not paying their 'fair share' is only a tiny portion of the problem. It is the greedy financial institutions (and some businesses, unions etc.) and the rotten government that squeezes the people beyond tolerance. That is THE PROTEST!

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I think the politicians, the financial gurus, banks, the unions...in fact all of the greedy need to understand that the average person is sick and tired of being used as a cash cow and a dumping ground. I don't really care who is doing the using/abusing, it is wrong and it needs to stop. It really isn't about what party (if any) you support or who you would like for this or that office. It is about right and wrong and about telling all of the users/abusers that we are sick of it!

I really hope people like us can change this spiral downwards. There are a lot of good people in this country, from all walks of life and all political persuasions. They all need to stand up and say "enough is enough"!. No more bailing out the people and institutions that are scr3wing us. No more backing politicians that are the greedy lackeys of greedy institutions. No more turning our backs after we are taxed into the ground and then being given the excuse that the very same taxing government can't help the people who houses were destroyed by floods or are going to lose their homes because of crooked loans and repossessions.

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Laura Ingraham said, "I'm old enough to remember what happened in the 1960s ... and it ended up shaping policy. We can't allow that to happen." Really? You Ingraham have rights and freedoms but want to deny them to those who differ with you? Typical Republican hypocrisy and I'm sick to death of it.

Herman Cain slamed the demonstrators as a bunch of whiners consumed with envy of the affluent.

"I don't have a lot of patience with that. My parents, they never played the victim card. My parents never said, 'We hope that the rich people lose something so we can get something.' No, my dad's idea was, 'I want to work hard enough so I can buy a Cadillac - not take somebody else's.' "

Cain said the protesters are "anti-American."

Cain said he believes the protests are a union plot to divert attention from President Obama's failures.

Fellow GOP presidential hopeful Newt Gingrich whacked the protesters for their "hostility to classic America."

"I regard the Wall Street protest as a natural outcome of a bad education system, teaching them really dumb ideas," he said.

Cain and Gingrich both described the protests as "class warfare."

House GOP leader Eric Cantor, who cheered last year's Tea Party protests, complained about the liberal "mobs" in the streets. Of course, you didn't hear him say anything when the Tea Party was out demonstrating - actually spitting on members of Congress right there in the Capitol. He and his colleagues were putting signs in the windows encouraging them.

Long Island Republican Rep. Pete King called the protesters a "ragtag mob" of "anarchists."

"They have no idea what they're doing out there. They have no sense of purpose other than a basically anti-American tone and anti-capitalist," he said Friday.

I love this habit of these Republicans, Teabillies and their FANBOYS of blanket-labeling the demonstrations as a whole as socialist or communist in intent, or anti-American which is not accurate at all, and demonizing people from many walks of life who are there. New York Magazine surveyed the OWS demonstrators last week and reported that 46% did not believe capitalism was inherently evil. That's a long way from being socialists. I'm sure there are some people among the demonstrators who are true socialists, but I think that's really a non-issue. The point is, they're asking questions that need to be asked. About overthrowing our economic system, what exactly qualifies as overthrowing it? What I see is more of a desire to reform it, which sadly is neccessary.

The demonstrations on Wall Street are a sign the American People are at last waking up to the notion they must stand up against the bullying of corporate greed in America! Herman Cain didn't say anything when the Tea Party Wing Nuts were rallying and demonstrating WEARING FIREARMS no less! Reaganomics has been soundly discredited as being bad for the majority of the country as a whole. The corporations don't want to let go of their stranglehold on the throats of the American people! It's out of control and only we can stop it by rallying against the corporate agenda and restoring the nation back to the people! The country is called the United States of America! Not the United Corporations of America! Balance must be restored!

What people don't realize is these 'kids' are fighting for OUR democracy. Wall Street is fighting for a tiny percentage of shareholders that represents the top 8% of the countries wealthiest citizens. Wall Street doesn't operate with American's interest in mind. Wall Street has outsourced 14.2 Million jobs to China, India, Mexico and other third world countries. It's these 'kids' who are patriotic, NOT Wall Street. Wall Street is getting exactly what they deserve!
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Occupy Wall Street's pockets are beginning to bulge. Cash donations are pouring in from around the globe as the grass-roots campaign for social change enters its third week.

Approximately $35,000 has been sent to the masses, camped in lower Manhattan since the protest started Sept. 17, protesters say.

Another $30,000 was collected by the fund-raising website Kickstarter, which enabled the group to produce 50,000 copies of a newspaper called The Occupied Wall Street Journal.

'[The donations] are coming from everywhere,' said Cooper Union student Victoria Sobel, 21, a core member of the finance committee managing the funds.

'I'm sure we're on the cusp of much larger donations.'

The second, nycga.cc, was registered Sept. 11 by Brooklyn resident Vladimir Teichberg, records show.

The Alliance for Global Justice, a nonprofit with 501c3 status, helped Occupy Wall Street to collect tax-exempt donations and open a credit union account to centralize funds.

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This Occupy Boston stream:

There is also a site where they listed most of the Occupied Sites with LIVE STREAMS here:

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