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IndyCar; Also Indy Lights
Topic Started: Apr 29 2017, 03:40 AM (642 Views)
Gaomon274
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Figured I'd have a thread up for the IndyCar racing series.


I don't check news for IndyCar too much but I try to catch the races I can (the 5 ABC ones currently) since last year after stumbling across part of the season opener last year and then with the Indy 500.

One thing I need to get used to is having cars that don't handle contact well (and I wanna say they can have penalties for contact and may also use local-cautions on road courses unlike NASCAR).




https://twitter.com/AllenBestwick/status/858126592576454656
Though one sad thing is one of my favorite motorsports commentators was just dropped from ESPN/ABC and will be let go after ABC finishes their remaining races for the year. No word what ESPN/ABC will do if they continue airing IndyCar races after this year (I'm not sure what the current TV contracts are).
Bestwick has a history of covering NASCAR races and was last with ESPN when ESPN's contract to cover NASCAR races was up and NBC took the rights intead. They then had him cover IndyCar and I believe other sporting events and looks like that's gone. Hopefully Fox or NBC pick him up and stick him on their motorsports coverage because both air a variety of motorsports so surely they'll have a place for Bestwick.
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CJ
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Sad to see that commentator's going, then :( . Do we know who might be replacing him, and whether they're likely to be any good?
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Not a clue honestly.
ESPN's let a lot of their staff go recently from what I've read online. Mr. Bestwick was one I know of along with LONG term veteran Dr. Jerry Punch who covered NASCAR and I believe IndyCar and likely other sports once ESPN lost NASCAR.

They might just throw someone random on there until they finish their TV deal with IndyCar honestly.
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Time to get busy at Indianapolis.
All four IndyCar series will be running there this month.
Indy Lights, US F2000, and Pro Mazda will be running the road course this weekend alongside IndyCar and then IndyCar and Indy Lights run the oval configuration later this month.

IndyCar will also have practice/qualifying stuff but not sure the details of it since I'm still a rookie to open-wheel racing. :D

For TV info, the Indy road course will be Saturday 5/13/17 on ABC @ 3:30m PM Eastern, Indy 500 IndyCar qualifying content will be shown on ABC on 5/20/17 and 5/21/17 at 4 PM Eastern both days but not sure to what will be shown exactly. Indy 500 is on ABC on I believe 5/26/17 on ABC but I may have the exact date wrong and I don't know the time yet.
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Ah, nice :) .

Annoyingly, it's all stuck behind paywalls here....so I guess I'll just have to read up on the results later, unless there's somewhere online that's streaming it for UK viewers :P .
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Sébastien Bourdais was involved in a vicious crash in qualifying for the Indy 500 and was taken to the hospital for observation.
I wasn't watching when the crash occurred so I just have the ABC/ESPN crew telling me of the crash and that he's awake/alert and never lost consciousness in the crash and they're taking him to the hospital to be safe.
...And ABC kicked coverage to a channel I don't get, ESPNews since they had a rain delay and the red flag making them run long and they're not going to preempt local affiliate content.
Edited by Gaomon274, May 20 2017, 09:59 PM.
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Wow, that doesn't sound good at all :( ....

Do we know yet whether he will still be able to race?
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A NASCAR site I use for news has a clip of the crash posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dO1xddA-7k


As for Bourdais' status, not sure. Probably won't know until later tonight or tomorrow.
I'll post if I find out something.
https://twitter.com/IndyCar/status/866083196940595200
Update on Bourdais.
Is indeed injured, and I have no doubt that he will be out of the race.
TBA on replacement, if the team still plans to run the #18 Honda.

Team is running a part time car for the Indy 500 in addition to the two full timers.
If I had to take a stab, they'd move the part time entry's driver to the full timer and shut the part time car down.

Dale Coyne Racing's got the #18 of Bourdais, #19 for rookie Ed Jones, and #63 for Pippa Mann with the #63 being the part time entry that will only run the Indy 500.
Edited by Gaomon274, May 21 2017, 01:53 AM.
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Yeah, looks like Bourdais is out for sure :( . Just hoping he recovers soon from this.

I guess shutting down the part-time entry makes sense, though it's a bit of a boring choice. But, if they don't do that, are there any obvious candidates for the drive?
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Honestly I'm not familiar enough with IndyCar drivers to say.

They'd probably pick someone who recently had to step away due to sponsorship issues or being unable to find a ride this year like Jack Hawksworth (who now runs in IMSA), or someone who's run in past Indy 500s like Stefan Wilson or Alex Tagliani.
Update on Bourdais.
https://twitter.com/IndyCar/status/866312690339336193
http://www.racer.com/indycar/item/140684-bourdais-suffers-multiple-fractures-in-indy-crash
Edited by Gaomon274, May 21 2017, 03:55 PM.
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Glad to hear Bourdais has undergone a successful round of surgery :D .

Also, I see Alonso has made it into the 'Fast Nine', after setting the seventh-fastest time in qualifying:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/motorsport/39988462
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Yup. Hopefully he can recover quickly along with Almirola.

Must be why I saw McLaren's Twitter bragging earlier haha.

Got more qualifying fun today so will be curious to see what shakes out.
Bourdais' replacement has been announced.
James Davison will drive the #18 Honda.
https://twitter.com/DaleCoyneRacing/status/866346210164187138

I don't know who the driver is though haha.
Looked up the driver.
Has history with the team, running a three races with them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Davison#IndyCar_Series

I know him from 2016 NASCAR where he ran one race in the Xfinity Series for King Autosports' #90 Chevy.
If I recall though he was involved in some controversy in that race though but I can't remember haha.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Davison#NASCAR_2
Qualifying on day 2 is underway.


They noted that the #29 of Alonso has swapped engines because apparently the team wasn't happy with data the first engine had so they switched it with almost no time to spare before qualifying.
Results for Qualifying:
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Edited by Gaomon274, May 22 2017, 12:26 AM.
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Don't have a source link right now but I've read that a current IndyCar driver and a former driver (who retired, iirc due to medical issues) were robbed last night or today while at a store not far the IMS track.

Drivers were Dario Franchitti and Scott Dixon.

Edit - Maybe it was a restaurant? I dunno. Local news had a small mention of it but didn't mention much.
Edited by Gaomon274, May 23 2017, 02:44 AM.
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Update on Bourdais.
https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/coyne-says-bourdais-anxious-for-indycar-return-909324/?s=1
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Wow, that sucks for the guys who got robbed :( . I hope they're able to get their money and/or possessions back soon!

Also, I'm encouraged to see that Bourdais is already contemplating his eventual return to IndyCar. I hope he doesn't rush it, though.
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Update for Bourdais again.
http://racing.ap.org/article/only-ap-bourdais-determined-return-season-finale
https://twitter.com/BourdaisOnTrack/status/867478550454120448?s=09
Mid-race Indy 500 update for those interested.

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Next update.
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Whelp...
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Last update:
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Edited by Gaomon274, May 28 2017, 08:02 PM.
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Congrats to Takuma Sato! I certainly wasn't expecting that, given how wild he was as an F1 driver....but then, I suppose that was over a decade ago now :P .

Glad to hear Scott Dixon is OK after that crash, though :O .

(Also, I'll start a separate topic for Sato, if that's OK. I just think something as big as announcing the winner of the Indy 500 deserves its own topic, rather than being lost in the middle of a generic IndyCar news thread :P )
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Nah go for it.

Just threw it in spoiler tags to avoid spoiling it since the Indianapolis viewing market is under a blackout tape delay and can't watch until 7 PM (I'm assuming their time) and since it's a big race and some may have it on DVR and stuff like that.
(I may or may not have been chewed out last year for posting race winners so soon after the event on another forum haha.)
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Esteban Gutierrez will be racing in IndyCar for the dual Detroit races.
https://twitter.com/dalecoyneracing/status/870279824950128640

Will be a relief driver for Sebastien Bourdais in the Dale Coyne Racing #18 Honda.
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Interesting pick; I was wondering what he was getting up to after Haas dropped him from their F1 team at the end of last year :P .

(I believe I saw him in a recent Formula E race too?)
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Wiki says he picked up a limited schedule ride in FE for 2016-2017 so I think so.




http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/tony-kanaan-hits-back-after-lewis-hamiltons-comments-on-indycar-060117
Well, not a way to promote motorsports as a whole eh Mr. Hamilton?
/sigh
Motorsports series need to stick together and promote each other (like the doubles between NASCAR/F1/IndyCar on Memorial Day weekend), not try to bash each other.
It's like telling me Football Division (Series? I don't do traditional sports lol.) #1 is better than Division #2.
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Yeah, I wasn't too impressed with his comments either. I mean, in the reverse situation (where a top IndyCar driver goes into F1, I'd expect them to be competitive.

I mean, they would need some training and testing to familiarise themselves with the cars, but I wouldn't expect them to be trundling around at the back!
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It can be tough to jump from one series to another though, especially when they have different driving styles.

There's been numerous open-wheel (non-NASCAR Modifieds though) drivers that come over to NASCAR and struggle.
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Yeah, that's certainly true. I guess some drivers are just more adaptable than others.

Anyway, Graham Rahal and James Hinchcliffe have both echoed Tony Kanaan's disapproval of Hamilton's IndyCar jibes:
https://www.motorsport.com/indycar/news/rahal-hinchcliffe-spurn-lewis-hamilton-s-jabs-at-indycar-914097/
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130015

Esteban Gutierrez isn't making friends.
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He certainly won't be making friends like that!

(Of course, does anyone actually want Gutiérrez himself, or do they just want his financial backing :P ?)
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I'm imagining Mr. Coyne would want him given he's had a rough season this year with crashing cars. :P


Like in last night's IndyCar race where only 9 cars of 22 finished the race, only 7 on the lead lap, after a huge crash that included the #18 and #19 cars.
Saw an insane race on IndyCar.
7 cars finish on the lead lap, 9 finish the race, the other 13 DNF'd from crash damage or mechanical failures.

The big wreck of the night was due to a 3-wide racing situation, with #10 Tony Kanaan, #5 James Hinchcliffe, and #7 Mikhail Aleshin. The #10 slid up into the #5 and the #5 spins and all hell breaks loose as basically half the field was caught up in the crash that brought out a 30 minute red flag. Certainly the largest wreck I've ever seen in IndyCar and one of the largest non-restrictor plate motorsports wrecks I've seen.
After the red flag was withdrawn, IndyCar put in a rule that the remainder of the race would see competition cautions every 30 laps of green flag racing due to safety concerns with the Firestone tires that were blistering quickly for some entries.

(Reminiscent to when 2014 Cup Fontana and 2008 Cup Indianapolis had tire concerns. NASCAR threw competition cautions in the 08 race due to safety concerns.)
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Yeah, does sound like quite a wreck!

I also saw that, following Hamilton's comments, some of the fans in the crowds were taunting him with banners :P :

[twitter=IndyCar/status/873732170375888896]

Meanwhile, Hamilton's rival, Fernando Alonso, appears to be open to a full-time switch to IndyCar:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/130072

That's sure to fire up the rumour mill!
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Interesting rumour here. McLaren are planning another IndyCar outing at the 2018 Indy 500 - and even considering a full factory effort (with Honda engines) in 2019 :O :

http://www.thedrive.com/start-finish/13411/mclaren-is-looking-at-indycar-for-2019

I'll believe it when I see it, but I do hope it comes true!
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Would surprise me since they're looking (or have) dropped Honda in F1.
The Honda IndyCar engines are a smidge more reliable and competitive though.
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