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| famicommander | Tuesday Dec 13 2011, 01:58 PM Post #1 |
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Wipe that face off your head, bitch.
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http://blog.onlive.com/2011/12/07/onlive-goes-mobile-a-new-era-in-gaming/ I tried it out and it works incredibly well. I played LEGO Batman and noticed very little latency over WiFi on my phone. The touch controls kind of suck, but they work just as well as with dedicated Android/iOS devices (that is to say, they're responsive and functional but still suck because touch screen analog control blows). The idea of the OnLive controller working on my phone is intriguing. I can't for the life of me imagine carrying a controller everywhere I go, but I did get the controller with my OnLive Microconsole and it really is awesome. I don't see it taking the place of my 3DS but it's still cool to have options. Never in a million years did I expect that I would be able to play a game like Dirt 3 on my current cell phone and have it be functional. Support for iOS and Windows Phone devices is on the way, but currently only Android is supported. |
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| whoozwah | Tuesday Dec 13 2011, 02:01 PM Post #2 |
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Is it live, or is it Dave-orex?
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It fucking works on phones but not on linux? Fuck those guys. |
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| famicommander | Tuesday Dec 13 2011, 02:11 PM Post #3 |
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Wipe that face off your head, bitch.
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You can now get it to work fairly easily through WINE, but OnLive has also said official Linux support is incoming. http://onliveinformer.com/2011/09/04/community-hack-allows-linuxwine-users-to-experience-onlive/ |
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Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays #2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars | |
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| whoozwah | Tuesday Dec 13 2011, 02:14 PM Post #4 |
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Is it live, or is it Dave-orex?
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I'll wait for an actual deb release rather than jury rigging wine to do it. People say Steam works through wine too and I've yet to see it work at an acceptable level on my system. |
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| famicommander | Tuesday Dec 13 2011, 02:23 PM Post #5 |
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Wipe that face off your head, bitch.
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I have gotten OnLive to work with no problems, for the most part. It took me longer to get the OS to work with my F510 controller than the OnLive launcher itself. |
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Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays #2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars | |
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| whoozwah | Tuesday Dec 13 2011, 03:00 PM Post #6 |
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Is it live, or is it Dave-orex?
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for the hell of seeing how it works, I installed onlive on my roommate's PC. Doesn't work too well. Mouse controls are pretty terrible. There's a delay and you've got to ramp the sensitivity way down for it to be bearable. So pretty much fuck onlive. |
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| famicommander | Tuesday Dec 13 2011, 04:17 PM Post #7 |
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Wipe that face off your head, bitch.
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There doesn't seem to be any middle ground with OnLive. Either it works exactly as advertised as it does for me or it just totally blows. Could have something to do with geography. I have no idea where OnLive's servers and shit are, but I have noticed that most of the people (on this forum) complaining about it are in the American Southeast. |
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Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays #2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars | |
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| SuperDouxSanaCanThree | Tuesday Dec 13 2011, 07:55 PM Post #8 |
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de Geso
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While I still have no interest in OnLive, that is pretty sweet. THAT would make those Android tablets far more appealing then an Ipad I think. |
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| famicommander | Tuesday Dec 13 2011, 09:36 PM Post #9 |
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There's an iOS version coming too, but they won't say when. |
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Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays #2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars | |
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| moldonhold | Wednesday Dec 14 2011, 02:06 PM Post #10 |
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FUCK THE JETS
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So much for non-dedicated mobile platforms not being able to offer a proper gaming experience. |
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| famicommander | Wednesday Dec 14 2011, 03:37 PM Post #11 |
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Well, they still can't unless you use a Bluetooth controller with it. Like I said, the games work but I'd rather vomit out my own internal organs than play with those horrible touch controls. Games only work well with touch when they are designed with them in mind, rather than shoehorning the touch controls onto games that were designed for a keyboard/gamepad. A 3DS still offers a lot more than an Onlive-enabled phone or tablet. Analog stick, d-pad, dedicated buttons, touch screen, front and rear facing cameras, 3D screen, motion controls, mic input, backwards compatibility with DS, and most importantly games that were designed with the hardware in mind. At best a phone gives you the touch, motion, cameras, and mic. |
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Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays #2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars | |
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| NamelessFragger | Wednesday Dec 14 2011, 06:25 PM Post #12 |
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Biggest issues are in the Southeast, you say? That's strange, given that I don't seem to have any major issues with OnLive (principle of the whole idea aside). Mind you, there's no way I'd play a competitive FPS (much less Unreal Tournament 3) through it with the slight input lag, but something like Deus Ex: Human Revolution is quite playable. |
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| famicommander | Wednesday Dec 14 2011, 07:55 PM Post #13 |
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Wipe that face off your head, bitch.
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I don't notice any input lag on OnLive. I'm sure it's there, but I noticed no difference in responsiveness playing Braid via OnLive or locally (via the Indie Bundles) using my F510. For whatever it's worth, OnLive claims to offer similar input lag to what one would get with a wireless console controller. Never seen anything to verify that, so who knows. It seems clear that SOMETHING is highly variable here, whether it's with respect to geographic location, ISP, connection speed, or whatever. Hopefully as the technology matures it gets more consistent. |
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Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays #2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars | |
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| whoozwah | Wednesday Dec 14 2011, 08:21 PM Post #14 |
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try using a mouse. Shitsux |
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| famicommander | Wednesday Dec 14 2011, 08:46 PM Post #15 |
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Wipe that face off your head, bitch.
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I've played plenty of games with my mouse. Even Unreal seemed to be perfectly playable. I haven't experienced any noticeable lag in the last few months or so in any game. Granted, I would say I spend a maximum of 3-4 hours a week using the service so I'm not on it a lot, but it has performed better than expected for me. |
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Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays #2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars | |
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| moldonhold | Thursday Dec 15 2011, 11:19 AM Post #16 |
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FUCK THE JETS
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Just because you personally don't like touch controls doesn't mean that it's not a feasible alternative for people. I have zero problem with touch controls myself. And since when is the 3DS the de facto comparison point for non-gaming devices? The goddamn PSP has nothing special about it other than physical buttons. A phone has touch controls, an accelerometer, cameras, and a microphone, as you pointed out. If people can have a "true gaming experience" on the PSP, they sure as hell can on a phone, with or without OnLive (although OnLive is a big selling point). Recently iOS devices have gotten a shitton of outstanding games that surpass the simple play-for-five-minutes-at-a-time games like Angry Birds. There's original stuff like Infinity Blade II (look it up, it's awesome), Bullet Time, Epoch, Aquaria, and Superbrothers: Sword and Sworcery. Not to mention, quality ports or remakes or brand-new installments of established games like Grand Theft Auto III, Sonic CD, World of Goo, Dead Space, Chrono Trigger, Need for Speed, and many more. Face it, non-dedicated devices are about to get very relevant very fast. |
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| famicommander | Thursday Dec 15 2011, 12:16 PM Post #17 |
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I have played Infinity Blade and it sucks ass. Touch controls will never replace buttons and analog. Especially with capacitive screens as with most phones and tablets, the precision isn't there. And that is to say nothing about the tactile feedback as well as not blocking your view with your fingers. The DS/3DS touch screen has pixel-perfect accuracy and its status as a secondary display means you have access to said precision without blocking your view of the game action. I used the 3DS as my standard for comparison because it offers the most input options, and is designed specifically with gaming in mind. Games that require precise input like Star Fox, Super Mario 3D Land, Dead or Alive, and BlazBlue still aren't going to work on a phone without some sort of dedicated controller (whether that be via peripheral with the OnLive controller or via a built-in thing like with the Xperia Play [which is good for digital input but still blows for analog]). Another problem that phones and tablets present is the ever-changing hardware. It's quite different from PC because phones are solid-state devices that generally can't be upgraded, and phones can vary greatly in terms of operating system, control methods, processor speed, RAM, etc. Developers want to target the largest number of users possible and as such won't be able to take advantage of device-specific features. Compare that to the 3DS where every system essentially has the same capabilities. When a game is designed specifically for a piece of hardware you can get more out of it. Look at what Nintendo was able to get out of the Wii with The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword. This is not to say that exclusive titles are automatically better than multiplatform titles, but there is something to be said about a focused development experience. The sales of the 3DS thus far indicate that smartphones and tablets aren't cutting into the handheld space as much as many predicted. The DS sold more than the PS2 as well as every other system ever released and the 3DS is destroying the DS's pace. I agree that we are trending towards all-in-one devices. I agree that Android/iOS gaming will only get bigger. I agree that for certain types of games, phones can offer similar game experiences to dedicated machines. But in much the same way that consoles have continued to thrive in the face of PC gaming, I believe dedicated handhelds will be around for at least another generation or two. Phones just can't offer the variety of experiences that dedicated machines can at this point in time. |
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Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays #2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars | |
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| NamelessFragger | Thursday Dec 15 2011, 09:13 PM Post #18 |
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While we're on this topic...here's a Joystiq preview of GTA III on an iPad. No surprises as to what the chief complaint is there...and this game might actually fare a little better in terms of not totally sucking ass with the controls compared to a certain couple of fighting games, which isn't saying much because the controls still suck. ...Oh god, here's a commenter's ramblings from this Engadget article.
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| leadelisa | Monday Jan 16 2012, 02:06 AM Post #19 |
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It has become easier to download Android phone games online. Several gaming site are offering free games online for the users of android phones. And the good thing is that the games that are your all time favorite and that you like to play on your system can also play at android phones. Because specific gaming version of popular games are now available for android users also.
Edited by leadelisa, Monday Jan 16 2012, 02:09 AM.
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