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Topic Started: Wednesday Apr 20 2011, 07:12 PM (4,710 Views)
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Is there a demo?
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Jak
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On Steam, yes.
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Slayer is going to hate me. Just ordered that Hori gamepad Jason suggested. Still haven't dl'd the M&B demo yet.
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hori gamepad was the better buy
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playing mk really fucks with sf ability.

i always want to press block, and i cant handle crossups anymore =[
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Baraka has an infinite that still hasn't been patched, but he's such a horrible character that nobody would use him in the first place.

Plus there's this:
http://shoryuken.com/content/mk9-game-freeze-sub-zero-4512/
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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Necrotrophic
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the game is fun though
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I was thinking about how Marvel should have crossed over with MK instead of DC, but then I realized that Wolverine would just be Baraka and I was disappointed in myself.
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In your opinion it's fun. I am not saying you're wrong for thinking that.

I played the demo and thought it sucked, then I played the full game and confirmed my original suspicions. It's shallow, it's glitchy, it's unbalanced, and the netcode is terrible (on the 360 version anyway; I'm sure the PS3 version will be just as bad if PSN ever comes back). It remains to be seen whether the psychological aspect of the game will develop into anything worthwhile, but at this point I highly doubt it. In my opinion the game exists purely as a cash-in, evidenced by the presence of gimmick characters, plans for DLC characters, DLC fatalities, preorder DLC, store-exclusive DLC, and the online pass.

It's clear NR did very little testing prior to the release of the game, and I doubt they give a fuck about the long term viability of the competitive scene.

Once they've milked all the DLC they can out of this one it'll be time for Mortal Kombat 10 and the cycle will repeat.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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I enjoy MK. The fact they got 70 dollars out of someone who would never consider buying a fighting game is a testament to the fact they aren't trying to please the unpleasable, "I'm-so-entitled" niche audience.

Sure, its a cash in... but if people are having fun, who are you to tell them how to spend their money?
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Did you not read the part where I said you weren't wrong for liking it? It's right at the beginning of my post.

I listed reasons why I think it's a shitty game and a cash in. I'm not telling you to set fire to your copy of it or anything, dude.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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its not a cash in.

they tried and everything went according to plan

stop being a conspiracy theorist all the time jason
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Necrotrophic
Friday May 13 2011, 01:52 PM
its not a cash in.

they tried and everything went according to plan

stop being a conspiracy theorist all the time jason
So they planned for lots of glitches, lots of infinites, horrible balance, terrible netcode, and bad menu interface?

Whether you like the game or not, all of the above flaws are a part of it.

Excuse me for thinking that a technical mess of a game with gimmick characters, DLC out the ass, and Online Pass is a cash in.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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no they didnt plan for those things.

youre acting just like a 911 truther. everything is black and white, everything is intentionally caused.

they wanted to make the game tournament viable and werent able to. this does not mean its some massive conspiracy to quickly take some suckers money as fast as possible and run away with it, because you know, they do want to make sequels.

you arent excused for thinking that
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It's NetherRealm. They've been doing this shit for over a decade.

Just because you like the game doesn't mean it isn't a cash-in. Sorry if that hurts your feelings, but the fact is from a technical perspective the game is far less competent than pretty much every other major fighting game on the market right now, aside from perhaps MvC3.

Everything about this game absolutely screams cash in. DLC characters, DLC stages, DLC fatalities, preorder DLC, store-exclusive DLC, Online Pass, gimmick characters, technical flaws out the ass, slow response in patching flaws, multiple different editions at launch with varying content...

It's the fighting game equivalent of Modern Warfare 2.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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And yet it'll probably be the most commercially successful fighting game this gen by a long shot. So your negativity won't mean dick all to the developers and publishers.

And you want a good way of balancing out a tournament for this game? Force everyone to use the stock 360 gamepad, lol.
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Friday May 13 2011, 04:28 PM
And yet it'll probably be the most commercially successful fighting game this gen by a long shot. So your negativity won't mean dick all to the developers and publishers.

And you want a good way of balancing out a tournament for this game? Force everyone to use the stock 360 gamepad, lol.
Super Smash Bros Brawl is by far the most commercially successful fighting game of all time. I don't see any conceivable way MK could beat it, especially with Brawl dropping to 20 dollars in two days as part of Nintendo's new Player's Choice thing for Wii.

But you are right in a sense; the game will be very commercially successful. Which is unfortunate in the sense that many of the game's troubling trends (DLC characters, DLC attacks, Online Pass) will no doubt continue to leak into other, better fighting games.

If there comes a day when Virtua Fighter has DLC characters I may just stop gaming altogether. It's an insult to anyone who has ever enjoyed a fighting game on a competitive level. The entire concept is completely contrary to what fighting games are all about.

It made me sick when BlazBlue did it, which is why I haven't purchased a BlazBlue game yet. It made me sick when MvC3 did it, but that game is total shit anyway so whatever.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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Oh, and it appears that despite Ed Boon's promises to the contrary, a lot of the DLC (costumes for 17 new characters) is already on the disc.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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Necrotrophic
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it has nothing to do with whether or not I like it. The only one applying feelings to this is you.

It has to do with basic logic.

Occams Razor, something you're clearly not familiar with

all things being equal, the simplest answer is probably the correct one.
Assuming its a cash in requires too many unprovable assumptions on their part.

DLC Fatalities are not required to play the game
DLC Characters arent required, and the idea behind having DLC is that the core game can be released sooner to please the fans who want the game asap. I dont like DLC characters either, but it doesnt mean "cash in"
DLC Stages arent required, and dont effect anything
preorder bonuses?!?!!? OH NO!!!!!!! lololol

in order for these things to matter, one would have to assume theyre conniving a way to get everyone to buy this shit. but they just arent.

They tried making a tournament fighter, and failed (for the time being, the game can definitely be fixed). This is how life works, the first time people try things, it usually doesnt work out the way they want.

you just want the gaming industry to pretend its the 80s again (would not be a good thing). Its becoming feasible to release the game, and fix errors discovered by the community post launch. It may not be perfect, but lets not be delusional, games prior to DLC were buggy too, and considering how much bigger games are these days, the opportunity for bugs only grows.

and on the topic of gimmick characters, I dont recall you complaining about Solid Snake or Sonic.
Oh wait, thats totally different!!!!!!!! rite?!

just calm down already. neither big brother, or activision are out to get you.
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You keep telling me to calm down, but you're clearly the one who is butthurt about this.

Whatever you have to do to make yourself feel better about it is fine with me, but I am NOT okay with essentially a 60 dollar beta test. The game shouldn't NEED fifty patches after release to make it what it was supposed to be in the first place.

The game is lazy as fuck and that's all there is to it.

And Snake and Sonic? They're mascots. In a mascot fighting game. Don't see how that qualifies them as gimmick characters. Every character in Smash has a unique background from a unique world, and they're all thrown into a battle together. That is the context of the game. Adding a character from Konami doesn't change that. On the other hand, God of War and Mortal Kombat have distinct, defined universes. Just like Link and Darth Vader in SoulCalibur or a Spartan in DoA. There's no reason for them to be in the game. They don't fit with the story, they don't fit with the combat, they don't fit with the universe.
Denver Broncos: defending champs, 8-6, next game 12/25 @ Kansas City Chiefs
Colorado Rockies: 75-87, missed playoffs
Colorado Avalanche: 11-18-1, next game 12/20 @ Minnesota Wild
Denver Nuggets: 12-16, next game 12/20 @ Los Angeles Clippers
Colorado Mammoth: first game 12/30 @ Buffalo Bandits
Denver Outlaws: defending champs, first game 4/22 @ Charlotte Hounds
Colorado State Rams football: 7-5, next game Idaho Bowl 12/22 vs Idaho Vandals
Colorado State Rams basketball: 8-4, next game 12/22 vs Long Beach State 49ers
Winnipeg Blue Bombers: 11-7, lost West Division Semifinal
Denver Pioneers Lacrosse: first game 1/24 vs Johns Hopkins Blue Jays
#2 Denver Pioneers Hockey: 12-3-3, next game 12/30 @ Providence College Friars
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